And reading if you are interested in these two and their relationship. But in her second book, in her of assisted dying. Lloyd norberger says they have more receipt book, Elizabeth Warren tells the same story, but this time, she leaves out the to reconsider the law. Fact that clinton flipflopped this could raise serious and its very interesting because it shows that elizabeth constitutional issues. Warren, she is willing to play does he agree that whatever your views on the subject, the ball a little bit and she is other places to be commended willing to hold her fire. For having a debate but what and thats what she did in her the public really wants is a debate in this house. Second book. We are talking with annie well, first of all, what i would say to my honorable linskey from Bloomberg News about the potential democratic friend, i think a debate is field for 2016. Ron, you are up next, being held. Im sure it will be worthwhile independent caller, go ahead, reading the debate that takes ron. Caller i would like to go ask ms. Linskey was that truly place on friday in the other place. Elizabeth warren make that im very happy for the debate speech in detroit or was that a to be held here. And there are opportunities for reincarnation of huey long . Back benches to hold the bait in the chamber. Im sure the new leader of the host house of commons, im sure host what are you talking about, ron . Caller it seemed to be youre welcome to his place. Well be listening ifer that demagogry of an extreme populist record. For myself, im not convinced that further steps need to be nature. Host host have you switched taken. I worry about legalized youth parties, voted republican, voted democrat in the past . Both. By all thanasia but host as an independent, what do you not like about Elizabeth Warren . Caller it seems to me that mean, lets have the debate. Shes just obsessed with regarding taxing the problems in our economy that are wealthy, can the Prime Minister really not the real problem. Keep his promise and publish the tax returns. The problem we had with the on the subject of taxes and economy, i certainly will not middle income people, whether excuse the behavior of the we go to get an answer from banks, but there were other proble labor about what was it that problems, macro he can no, maamic problems that brought that crisis about. The leader meant and let me repeat it again. I think people of middle income host host there is angindependent. You need independent to win. Should contribute more through their taxes. There is as we go into the guest you know, if she is. Summer there is one party in host host would she . This house with a big tax guest i think she would have a problem and im looking at it. Problem being elected. If she was thisdrantic nominee, mr. Speaker, given that its you know, that kind of rhetoric, the single biggest driver in twhiel it does electivefy and his country. Exciting one part of the democratic base, it absolutely turns off, you know, many, many other segments. Thats why you see by this government signing up republicans, you know, using her frame employers mindful in an add when she does go into these red states and saying, look who is being tie today liberal Elizabeth Warren. Although, its really work. I think it is important and interesting. Late last week, i think it was he helped to do this in on friday, the heritage government where we have a foundation did reach out to situation where Mental HealthElizabeth Warren to see, you s given proproper parity of know, the conservative heritage foundation, to see whether or not she would support them on, esteem. ve made more progress for you know, ending the export import thing, to see if they could find some sort of patients in the n. H. S. Alliance between sort of far right and the far left. He suggests order youve been watching prime Elizabeth Warren did not, you know, she doesnt accept their minister questions from the position, but i think in members huss of commons. Washington, its really interesting to look for these members will wrap up this week before they recess for the areas where the far left and far right might go together. Summer. The Prime Minister questions we will go to connersville i returns to september when members trourn the huss of commons. To catch up on past Prime Ministers questions, watch any ime at cspan. Org. Think what you are doing is great for our cause because you believe in the common man. We need to step up the game on next, a conversation with the the other side of the aisle apollo 11 astronaut buzz because fox news, the plutocrats aldrin. Then a look at some of the possible 2016 president ial channel, we need to fight back with everything we have got. Candidates. Gary, what energizes you after that a discussion on the about 2016 . U. S. Housing finance system. Is it the processing expect of a republican president or the field of potential democrats that you are seeing right now . We are tracked ubiquitously, ty vote for bernie sanders. I think he is the right man for intimately and all the time. Like i think its easier just the job. Just anything that is toward the to assume there are very few times that were not trapped and by that, most people will common working people. Say to me, a lot of times all right. Theyll say, you know, i read a our country, too. Lot for Technology Magazines all right. Bernie sanders . He wasnt there. Like mashable and the i was a little bit surprised because it felt like he was guardian. There. So many people were mentioning and they well, it doesnt affect me because im not on his name. You know, i mean he is not a facebook or my grandmothers democrat. You know, he would have to, you not on facebook. I said first of all, there are know, he is an independent and 45 Million People whose photos are on facebook and can be so people were hoping he would identified through tagging. Be a democrat and would run. I think one of the dangers some so the fact that to say that my activity and my behavior that i know about means that im not being tracked is in general factually just untree. Mentioned playing a spoiler role author john havens on how that ralph nader did before and ross perot has done. Your personal data is tracked and used, monday night at 8 00 eastern on the communicator there was this discussion that we want somebody to run against hillary. On cspan2. Today is the 45th anniversary we want to be talking about of the u. S. Moon landing. These issues. Maybe it will be bernie sappeders if not an Elizabeth Apollo 11 astronaut buzz aldrin warren. Tomorrow on the washington journal, we are going to be taking a look at the republican was our guest. His is 35 minutes. Field for 2016. So, if you are interested in that, tune in tomorrow morning, 7 00 a. M. And we are back with buzz eastern time is when we kick off the washington journal seven Aldrin Apollo 11 astronaut days a week here on cspan. Tina, independent call, hi, marking the first lunar tina. Caller good morning. Landing. Remind our viewers what was the host host good morning. Mission of apollo 11. Caller great. Yeah, i am paying attention and the mission was to carry out as far as i am concerned, i thought sanders was the first for an independent and as far as on may 25th, 1961, to land a warren, warren is, you know, just obama all over again. Man on the moon and to bring and under this administration. Im back safely 1970 whom i voted for, it seems that, i forget exactly that wording. But i use that as a model for you know, paid for the tarps protocol much that we want to another commitment. Wall street. The 50th anniversary. There is more now than when obama came in. I dont think i am going to thats why im doing a lot of redo that and i am not for hings to gin up the 45th so we socialists and communists. My dad just died who fought in world war ii for the real could count up. Democratic party. To the 50th . I think its been hijacked. Yes. And what do you think will thats why i am an independent. How do you want to mark the i wont vote for either one of them. I may abstain and i may swing. 50th . Two the 50th. I dont really know. Guest yes. Host host caller not elizabeth host what do you want to mark warren. Thats for sure. Host the 50th . Host what about the sentiment of the Old Democratic Party guest the next president , until versus this new one which you ta talk about a little bit. , everyoneclose guest there are some people who are trying to look at the tea party for cues about how to assumes it will be a democrat. Change their party, how to shake we want the next president to be able to say, i believe this it up and shake some of the older ideas. Nation should consist it will be i dont know that they are there yet, you know, you look on the right and should commit itself into decade various faxes are spending millions of dollars against each in two decades to a pioneer other. I mean it is indeed a civil war on that side. You dont see thhappening on th planet on mars. Left. Going back to 1969, why although, everyone i talk to says, look, there is one person who has started a group and they are running progressive was it important that the United States be the first, and how do you feel it has changed the candidates against democrats in primaries and so they are using world . Ii, theuring world war the same pump at least on the local level with some success, you know, on the local level. So, i think, you know, germans were the first to come up with a hightechnology walk v2, and had ithe been available a good bit sooner, or had we not overrun in overrun whereot they were launching those records, it could have made a big difference. Because it really tempered london, or great britain. And of course, we came up with the atom bomb in time to drop the last two. There were no others. That was a gamble that president truman made. Released hereto for classified documents of the orders, descriptions of the where the suicide homeowners and all the airplanes that they had held in reserve the suicide bombers for troop ships and the carriers. It was going to be a bloody battle. No surrender. With hiroshima and not the there was nagasaki, an unconditional surrender. But this sputnik came along and surprised us. Why didnt the United States put something in orbit . Sputnik indicated to a lot of nations that we were behind and we had to scurry to catch up. And i believe that is why president kennedy asked his what we can do to beat the soviets. And supposedly, somebody said its going to take 50 years to have a man on the moon. Well, he didnt believe that. Commitment after gegaringeron yuri had flown around. Alan shepard barely into orbit, thats all we could do. 20 days later, he made that speech. , jamesder of nasa wagner, was told what was going to cost. On his way over in the limo to the white house to tell president kennedy what it was going to cost, he took that number and multiplied it by two. [laughs] the first one of major programs that came in on time and under budget. The peak spending in the development of the 20 rocket systems and spacecraft to guarantee at least one successful landing, the peak funding was in 1967 building on up and it was 3. 5 to four percent of the available budget. Host discretionary spending, three percent to four percent. Half 3. 5 and a to four percent. Host what is it today . 0. 5 net 0. 5 and it has been for a long time. Howing on the moon is complicated is going to be and , and ier people feel feel, when they first land on the surface. We will build up their accommodations, their laboratories, there have her cat their habitat before they land. I know a lot of people are going to say, thats not the way we americans do that. I think the chinese would stay there. I think the russians would stay there. On taying guest that is right, they are there for life. Host on mars . Guest right. And instead of justifying why we do that on mars, we will turn around and say, all right, we will bring those people back. Back, they crossed the next people going. The people it trained these people were professionals. And those professionals watched everything those people were doing while they were there, and then they trained the next group. There is not a question when these people come back as to their training the next people. They have already been trained. The question i would ask the skeptics what exactly are you with the human beings, hopefully americans, that the world has spent liens of dollars, the United States has spent liens of dollars of dollarsbillions putting them on the surface of the moon as the pioneering human . Eings the first human beings on another planet, what are we going to do to help defray the ongoing expenses that the world, that the United States, invested in those people . They going to go around and talk to every kindergarten in the country . Are they going to play golf . Are they going to write their memoirs . Life, in my estimation, is going to be miserable. Because that is all they are going to do is talk about it, talk about it. They can do that from mars. Its a oneway communication because of the time difference. But i have yet to have somebody come up and tell me what we would do with the first people that land that would justify the additional expense and time to set up a return system to take with you to launch rockets, the fuel. I have given this an awful lot of thought. I will not be around to be a candidate. But i suspect there will come a when an applicant for an astronaut will sign something to spend thees rest of his life on mars. He can change his mind and we will find another job for him. We have a lot of people lined up to talk to you. The 45thrking anniversary, july 25, 1969, of the first lunar landing. Virginia, kent, youre on the air. Caller good morning, sir. I want to ask you, as far as going to mars, what role do you think private business would play, and what nations would you have cooperate with us to go to mars . And i also want to say i enjoyed your role on the Big Bang Theory and it was very enjoyable. Host guest thank you. The nations that are capable of contributing at first, this will happen first at the moon. We have already been to the moon. We know an awful lot about it. Were we to compete with the other nations, they are less to be theallow us Lunar Development authority that gathers together the other. Ations its very important that we have a working relationship with china. Beyonder earth orbit and , human spaceflight, peaceful ,urposes, it is sort of a trial highly visible to the world, the two nations can work together. July isember that next se 40th anniversary of apollo. Ole use in 1975 that was a pretty warm part of the cold war, with missiles pointed at each other. It was called mutually assured yet, theon, and administrator of nasa will only went to the moon when we went to the moon was a major person behind pushing for this joint mission with the russians. Thinkt think many people that was a mistake. I think it paved the way for more acceptable relations later on. Going back to landing first on the moon, the russians wanted to do that, but they didnt. We gradually caught up with them after mercury and gemini, with all of the things that we did. Uring that it was clear that we were leading them. However, they had the capability of sending one cosmonaut around the moon, and they knew what we were going to do on apollo eight. They did not have the rocket successfully to be able to do that, but it was because of that, that we accelerated the First Mission to orbit the moon ahead of what the schedule was going to be. The first time a cruise on a big rocket, they orbited the moon. Ae second time we ever put spacecraft a crew on a spacecraft, it was a very bold achievement. Host lets go back to that recording in 1969 and hear that famous comment recorded right your colleague, Neil Armstrong. [video clip] the vehicle the eagle has landed. Thermstrong has landed on moon. 38yearold american standing on the surface of the moon. On this july 20, 1969. , it is one small step for man one giant leap for mankind. It is beautiful. Its much like the desert of the heat like the high desert of the United States. Its very different, but pretty. Congratulations. You are cleared for takeoff. [indiscernible] beautiful, very pretty. Very quiet ride. Apollo 11, apollo 11. Buzz aldrin, you were listening to that, smiling, you know, gesturing at a couple of moments. What did you remember . Guest i remember mike collins , when you step on the moon, what are you going to say . Have you thought about that . , he said,n his usual well, i think about it ill think about it when we land successfully. [laughs] host how did he come up with a . Guest i dont know. I thought for a good while that the intelligence person and traveled with us around the , boardfter the flight had beengen, consulted by the crew of apollo eight when on christmas eve, they read from genesis, a very moving decision. I think he was into mental in that. I asked him if he had anything to do with he was instrumental in that. I asked him if he had anything to do with neils words, and he didnt answer. Host here is a tweet. What was it like during an apollo liftoff from her . What did you see and feel . Did you ever feel anything like that on earth . Since then, before, i had lifted off in a Titan Mission in the last gemini program. I think a lot of people had seen movies taken of the shuttle people when they go up, and they are shaking all over. Saturn lifted off so smoothly. We had instruments that told us , andre leaving the ground voice transmissions, but feel it leaving a ground the ground, we both commented afterwards we were not somehow attached to the ground anymore. Hunting ofhe sort of guidance, but if you look at the movies at liftoff, it was so smooth and those engines were moving at all. Host lets go to marion new castle, delaware. Mary, good morning to you. You are on the air with buzz aldrin. All right, let me move on to lidia in woodstock, illinois. Independent color. Caller we have Beautiful Image of the liftoff, except with the challenger spacecraft. I happen to know prior to that launch, that engineers were trying to have that launch postponed. It was postponed several times. They knew that the whole rate was not going to hold up with the cold temperatures. Was reported in the newspaper, probably the chattanooga times. If they knew at the time that