Transcripts For CSPAN Kansas Gubernatorial Debate 20141025 :

CSPAN Kansas Gubernatorial Debate October 25, 2014

Accountable care. Preventing rehospitalization, avoiding costly medical errors that lead to complications all those are steps that Accountable Care organizations like the hospitals, now that the payments for readmissions are being reduced those organizations have stronger incentives to address. Are there any areas where you are worried about the other direction, that the higherquality care may actually expensive, maybe for some specialty conditions, where there are extensive treatments needed . Any particular areas stand out there . Anything to Pay Attention to . What i would say about that is, we have had some technology firms, medical device firms, come and say, this payment is wonderful, but you are going to squelch innovation. What we have said is, we dont want to squelch innovation. There is a type of innovation that reduces costs, but even ones that may increase costs that are lifesaving or lifeenhancing. We are trying to find ways to measure that. We have been working closely with those industries to try to see if our Payment System should adapt. They have asked for a pass through. If we come up with something new, do not include that in a reconciliation. We are not willing to do that. But we are continuing to focus on that victor. That particular type of innovation. Mei would like you to join in thanking sean for joining us this morning. Thank you very much. [applause] [captions Copyright National cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by National Captioning Institute which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] next, some of the debates around the country, starting with candidates running for kansas governor. Then, the Montana Senate debate from this week. After that, we hear about the candidates in iowa costs fourth Congressional District race. Of campaignverage 2014 continues, with tuesday costs kansas governors debate, with Sam Brownback and his democratic challenger, paul davis. The Cook Political Report lists this race as a tossup. Republican governor brownback was first elected in 2010. This comes to us courtesy of the Kansas Association of broadcasters, and it is about 40 minutes. [applause] thank you very much, jim. Get everything situated here. Let me give you the debate instructions as we have developed them. Each candidate will have two minutes for an Opening Statement. Then i will ask questions giving each candidate 90 seconds to respond and a 30 second rebuttal from the candidate who answered first. You will have someone down here keeping time for the candidates. All questions have been developed by me. The order of who answers first will change with each question. At the end, the candidates will have two minutes in their closing statements in the same order as the Opening Statements. We ask the audience to refrain from applause or reactions during the debate and, of course, if you would please check your cell phones to make sure those are in some type of position where we wont disturb the candidates. Afterwards you will be able to clap and applaud for them being here. With that, let me bring up both of the candidates, representative paul davis and governor Sam Brownback. [applause] there should be some water under each podium. Absent any fans. I have had that question asked a lot. No fans under the podiums. I want to say hello to the gentleman. Gentlemen. Thank you for participating in this Kansas Association of broadcasters debate. We earlier flipped the coin. Wasnt it a piece of memorabilia from the Kansas City Royals . The chiefs. I want to thank you all for being here. He flipped a coin to decide who would be the person to give Opening Statements. Governor brownback won the coin toss. We will start with an Opening Statement for governor brownback and move accordingly. Governor brownback . Thank you for hosting this, association of broadcasters. I have to start by saying go royals. It is exciting what is taking place. The royals are Americas Team now and everybody in america is cheering for them outside of Nancy Pelosis district. That is the only one that is cheering for it. We are excited about that. We are hopeful they can sweep in the series. Thank you for hosting this, we have a choice to make this fall. The direction for the state of kansas in the future is an important choice and you have dramatic differences between myself and paul davis. I put forward a plan that is a conservative model. Lower taxes, lower requirements work requirements for welfare. It is getting our fiscal house in order. It is getting growth to take place and investing in functions like schools and roads. We have done that, and move that agenda forward. And we see things grow in the state of kansas with record employment. 4. 8 unemployment rate. Index is going down in the state of kansas, according to the u. S. Census bureau. We are moving in the right direction and getting things done. And that is important for us as a state where we have languished for 35 years. Change is difficult, and this has been difficult. We are moving in the right direction. Paul davis represents an obama model with higher taxes, no work requirements, and have more government intrusion in your lives. And that is your choice. One of the things that hasnt been talked about much is the selection of judges. The governor selects judges in the state of kansas and that matters a great deal. We are seeing now, a case here in wichita, brothers going to the kansas Supreme Court. It was overturned by the kansas Supreme Court. They are very liberal court. Paul davis wants to continue to appoint liberal judges to that court. I want to appoint judges that will interpret the law, not rewrite the law as they see it to be. This is an important distinction between the two of us, on who would appoint and how we would appoint judges. I hope this is something we can discuss, because its a key issue and a key distinction between the two of us. One of the justices even hosted a fundraiser for paul davis. I find that wrong. Its something that shouldnt happen. Representative davis. Thank you. Good afternoon. Im paul davis. A lifelong kansan, moderate, a 15 year veteran of the local chamber of commerce. Im also the son of two teachers and a parent of a soontobe kindergartner. The issue of Public Education is personal to me. That is why i have been a steadfast champion for Public Schools during my 12 years in the legislature. That is why i opposed governor brownbacks largest cut to School Funding in state history. That is why i will make restoring those cuts the very top priority as governor. It is one of the reasons why i have the support of over 180 current and former republican elected officials. Three speakers of the house, three Senate President s, three lieutenant governors, u. S. Senator and two Kansas Republican Party chairs. That has never happened in kansas before but it is happening because i have a track record of being able to unite democrats and republicans. It is happening because the governors economic experiment is not working. And it is not going to work. Not only are we trailing our surrounding states and the rest of the country in economic growth, it has plunged our state deep into debt and it is harming thousands of kansans. Kansans like mary from winfield who is here with us today. She is a single mom and also happens to be a republican. She provides for her son on a shoestring budget and is proud she has not had to turn to public assistance. But because mary falls within the bottom 20 of kansas wage earners, she is paying 50 more in kansas income taxes solely because of the governors economic experiment. We have to do better for people like mary. The choice we have in this election is about whether we are going to clean up the mess the governor has created or we are going to hit the accelerator the governor says on more cuts to schools, more debt, and a failed experiment. Kansas cannot afford this. We have to go in a different direction, a direction that prioritizes our schools and uses proven ways to grow our economy , and that is exactly what i would do as governor. First question. Representative davis, you will have the opportunity to answer first. From the economy to education to ebola, there is an air of uncertainty about the future. What will your administration do to calm the concerns of kansans . First of all, we will use the old adage, if youre in a hole, you need to stop digging. The governor plus economic experiment, the onesizefitsall experiment of is not working. You have to look at the data. We are trailing the surrounding states and the rest of the country in economic growth. The governors own council of economic advisers documented this seven months ago. We are 45th in the country in terms of new business creation. In 2013, there were more businesses that closed shop that than opened shop. We have had three credit down grades in just over a year. This is not working and it is not going to work. The governor says he wants to hit the accelerator on what we have been doing. We know what that means. It means more cuts to schools, more dollars at taken out of our proven Job Creating Program and Transportation Plan. I think we need to end the experiment. Lets freeze the tax cuts where they are at on january 1, 2015. Lets get our fiscal house in order. Lets restore the cuts to the Public Schools because strong Public Schools are the very foundation of a stronger economy. Business leaders like john moore have told me that the best thing we can do to move our economy forward is to have the very best Public Schools. That is why i will make restoring cuts my very top priority as governor. I wish he had not voted for the cuts in the first place then. The cuts he is talking about are the ones that happened in the parkinson administration. The administration cut support for k12 administration and put one time obama stimulus money that went away the next year. Those are the cuts he voted for. Ive put money in every year. Ive increased state funding for education every year i have been in office. Listen as well to the rest of the plan he is putting forward. The plan is for him to raise income taxes on you, on the person at his table. His first plan is to raise taxes for people that make 15,000 a year. That is what he is proposing. We cut income taxes on everybody in the state of kansas and his first step is to say if you are making 15,000 a year, your income taxes are going up. That is not any way to grow. He can be critical of my plan all he wants to be. We still have record employment in the state of kansas and his plan is to raise your income taxes. I ask you is that the way you , grow the economy, by raising your income taxes . It is not. We started out with one of the highest income tax rates in this region 6. 45 . It is at 4. 8 now. We created growth and it has. Record number of new businesses filing into the state of kansas and Small Businesses expanding. Record employment 4. 8 unemployment, the lowest in america. Those are data points you can rely on, and that is what is happening in kansas. And raising taxes not the way to grow. Rebuttal, representative davis . Governor, you are trying desperately to rewrite your record and you are trying to rewrite mine as well. But you know it is not the truth. I have been a champion for our Public Schools. The republican president of your Goddard School board is here supporting me because she and so many other leaders in education know who the real pro education candidate is. It is ironic you talk about raising taxes on the poor. That is exactly what you have done. Your first tax plan you introduced would raise taxes by 5000 on people who make 25,000 or less. I think that is morally wrong. Lets stay on the issue of taxes. This question is for you governor brownback. Every taxpayer likes to hear the term reduction in taxes. No taxpayer likes to live with a reduction in services. How will your administration resolve this type of dissonance . Growth. That is what we are doing. Look at the data yourself. Growth. 4. 8 . We are having difficulty in general aviation in wichita at this point in time, no thanks to president obama. Paul davis is a twotime delegate. We are having difficulty with the president belittling general aviation and saying those fat cats in Business Aviation that hurts us. We need to grow. You grow by getting your taxes off of Small Business in particular, which we did. We took taxes off the Small Business passthrough income. You are seeing record numbers filing into the state of kansas. You go to people like teddy in topeka who had a temp agency. Use the extra funds to expand into manhattan, kansas. I see that all the time. I had a lady stop me after church two days ago with that message that she said we started a Small Business and we are working. Of kansans work for themselves or somebody with 10 or fewer employees. When you recruit big business into the state, you can get them, but you have to buy them. Small business is the right route to go and that is what we are doing. We are getting growth to take place. We ended this fiscal year with 434 million cash on hand. We ended with that much money. And we are increasing investment in schools of the same time at record levels. Representative davis. All you have to do is take a look at the budget picture. 1. 3 billion of debt over the next five years. That comes from our nonpartisan legislative research department. You ask the governor what his plan is he does not have a plan. What is going to happen is more cuts to schools and more dollars taken out of our Transportation Plan. A proven job he has taken 1 billion out of the Transportation Plan so far and all you will do it take more thats all he will do is take more. More businesses closing in 2013 than opening. This year, the rest of the country is double the job growth that we have in kansas. This experiment is not working. It is not going to work. It is time we understand that and move forward. Think about how we are going to be able to restore the cuts to Public Education when we are in 1. 3 billion in debt. It will not happen. We have to end of the experiment now and we have to restore those cuts to our Public Schools or we will not be able to grow as a state. Rebuttal . Paul davis is lying. We have invested record amounts of money in schools. Go check with the department of education. We have fixed the Pension System which was in bankruptcy. That he helped get into bankruptcy in the legislature and now it is out of the bankruptcy zone. His method of getting us to grow is raising taxes. We have also done every project that has been announced and said that we would do, including the one recently in wichita right now that is a nice big project to fix congestion that we have in this city. We are moving forward. What he is saying is data he did during the legislature, not what i had done. Representative davis, you can answer this question first. To be the greatest in the union, what resources should we protect, promote, and what resources should we dispense with . I want to respond first to the comments the governor just made. So disappointing. The Kansas City Star recently wrote an editorial called the relentless lies of Sam Brownback. The things you have said in this campaign have been disproven over and over and over again, but you keep going. I was part of the Bipartisan Coalition that put that bill together to fix capers. All you did was sign it. The legislature did not want to go down the road you wanted to go down, which is going to keep the liability even worse than it was before. What we need to do as a state is to get back to the basics. We need great Public Schools. I am the son of two teachers. This issue is personal to me. All across the state, all i hear from parents, from teachers, principals, School Board Members is the concern that they have never seen before to the state four the state of our Public Schools. Because we have a governor who has never made Public Education a priority. When he was in the u. S. Senate, he voted against education repeatedly. Voted against afterschool programs, against teachers, head start. As governor he tried to get rid , of early head start. He has cut Early Childhood education. He cut k12 education. He cut higher education. There is no way that we can grow and prosper as a state if we have a governor who will never make education a priority and that is his record. Governor brownback . That is completely false. Why didnt you fix capers when governor parkinson was a governor . You did not need the governor to get this done . Because they would not step up and deal with the problem. We have the second least funded pension when i came in. The only state worse than us was illinois. If they were not there, we would have the worstfunded system in the country. Thats what gets you into bankruptcy. The Pension System, with nearly a 9 bi

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