The speaker pro tempore on this vote, the yeas are 415, the nays are 6. 2 3 being in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the Senate Amendments are agreed to, and without objection the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. For what rpose purpose does the gentleman from oklahoma seek recognition . Madam speaker, i send to the desk a privileged report from the committee on rules for filing under the rule. The speaker pro tempore the clerk will report the title. The clerk report to accompany House Resolution 661, resolution providing for consideration of the bill h. R. 6016, making appropriations for Financial Services and general government for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2015, and for other purposes. And providing for consideration of the bill h. R. 4718, to amend Internal Revenue code of 198206 modify and make permanent depreciation. The speaker pro tempore referred to the house calendar and ordered printed. Pursuant to House Resolution 641, and rule 18, the chair declares the house in the committee of the whole house on the state of the union for the further consideration of h. R. 4923. Will the gentleman from North Carolina, mr. Holding, kindly ake the chair . The chair the committee will be in order. The house is in the committee of the whole house on the state of the union for further consideration of h. R. 4923, which the clerk will report by title. The clerk a bill making appropriations for energy and Water Development and related agencies for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2015, and for other purposes. The chair when the committee of the whole rose earlier today, an amendment offered by the gentleman from california, mr. Mcclintock, had been disposed of and the bill had been read hrough page 19, line 14. For what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition . Mr. Chairman, i have an amendment at the desk. The chair the clerk will report the amendment. The clerk amendment offered by mr. Mcclintock of california, page 19, line 12, after the dollar amount, insert reduced by 22 million. Page 20, line 11, after the dollar amount insert reduced by 9,810,000. Page 21, line 2, after the dollar amount, insert reduced by 30,935,000. Page 26, line 24rk after the dollar amount insert reduced by 9,551,000. Page 52, line 20, after the dollar amount insert reduced by 49,062,000. Page 59, line 20, after the dollar amount insert increased by 121,358,000. The chair pursuant to House Resolution 641, the gentleman from california and a member opposed each will control five minutes. The chair recognizes the the chair recognizes the gentleman from california. Mr. Mcclintock thank you, mr. Chairman. Ever since 1835, the rules of the house have forbidden spending money except for purposes authorized by law. Yet last year, the 11 Appropriations Bills reported out of the house propings committee con tained over 350 billion for spending on unauthorized programs. The rule against unauthorized spending cannot be enforced because its always waived by the resolutions that bring these propings to the floor. These appropriations to the floor. The bill before us today contains 24 billion in such unauthorized spending in programs that have not been reviewed by the authorizing committees since as far back as 1980, that was jimmy carters last year in office. Im sure that some of these programs are valuable and worthy of taxpayer dollars, but surely others are not. The fact that theyve not been authorized in as much as 35 years ought to warn us to be at least a little more careful about continuing to fund them. Rather than reviewing our spending decisions and making tough choices about spending priorities, congress simply rubber stamps these programs out of habit. Its no wonder were so deeply in debt with so little to show for it. Now my amendment does not defund these unauthorized programs as the house rules would require. It simply freezes spending on them at last years levels. The cuts contained in this amendment total just 121 of on, which is about. 36 1 of the total spending of this bill. If year after year, the authorizing committees havent these hese worthies programs worthy of being reauthorized, maybe theyre not worth the money were shoveling at them either. Its the proper role of the house of representatives to control the Purse Strings of our government. When we do a sis der vis to our constituents when we allow this kind of spending growth to occur on auto pilot, absent any oversight. I look forward to the day when congress will again reassert its constitutional prerogative to control federal spending and enforce its own rules that prohibit spending blindly on unauthorized programs. However, in the meantime, adopting this amendment, merely freezing the spending in these unauthorized programs, shaving just. 36 of 1 of this appropriation by freezing that spending on unauthorized programs, i hope that will be a small, symbolic step toward reclaiming the houses responsibility to act as watchdog over the treasury. I reserve the balance of my time. The chair the gentleman reserves. For what purpose does the gentlelady from ohio seek recognition . Ms. Kaptur i rise to express opposition to the gentlemans proposal. The gentleman stood up earlier tried to cut and from essential accounts and i ccept his desire to try to balance the budget. When his party shut down the wrench nt and threw the of shutdown into every program that the nation depends upon, it created quite a bit of chaos around here and around the country. Money was wasted on furloughs and people spending time, the military, trying to decide how they were going to rotate different operations and so forth. It was a terrible period that we lived through. And were still taping and gluing our programs back together after all of that. Some of these work of some of the work of the authorizing committee under your leadership were not able to clear their bills on time so the gentlemans solution is to say, well, you know, none of that happened so im just going to take this opportunity to go after the energy and water bill and kind of take this and this and this and this, and propose this amendment and i think that the gentlemans goal of fiscal responsibility is one that i share, but this isnt the way to do it. This isnt the way to pick some programs, and we dont even know their complete what impact it will have across the country. I would rather have a much more thoughtful presentation that would come before us and the programs, whats he talking about . The same one this is afternoon he was trying to cut. The Renewable Energy program, talking about cutting nuclear, fossil energy, he really doesnt like the department of energy. I bet if you if you ask the gentleman he, doesnt want the department of mortgage exist for our country. If you look around the world, im probably not wrong on that fact. So this is just another way to try to cause havoc over at the department of energy. As i said earlier today, i view whats happening in that department as one of the most important strategic set of investments that this country has to make. Why create more havoc over this . Weve had difficulties in trying to balance our Energy Accounts over the years, petroleum, imported petroleum still constitutes 40 of what americans are paying for, the average family, every year, 2,800 comes out of their pocket for gasoline. We need to modernize our fleet. We need to theres a lot of gas, natural gas converses doing conversions going on in our country for trucks. We need to not throw a wrench into that, but to hasten it. We need modernize dep grids, whatever thats going to look like. We need we need to make sure our Energy Policy plays on all keys, not just a few. This isnt the time to create more havoc following on the havoc that has been created in the past, which im sure the gentleman supported and pick on the department of energy. We need a much more coherent strategy to balance our budget and we need to put people back to work and through innovation in this country and balancing of our trade zivet, begin to reinvest those dollars here back at home. We have about, i think 34 billion in this entire bill. Our energy trade deficit with the world this year is a little over 110 billion the deficit this year is eight times bigger than our bill. If you look at what you are trying to do, it is counterproductive and we need to modernize our Energy System here and not picking it apart and creating more havoc but investing in americas future. I oppose the gentlemans amendment and lets get on with the regular order here. Lets get this bill cleared and go to conference with the senate and do for america what she needs and restoring Energy Security in order our liberty not be threatened in this generation and the future. I would be pleased to yield to the gentleman. Mr. Mcclintock mr. Chairman, let me say mr. Simpson i agree with the sentiments in that the rules of the house say we shouldnt appropriate money for any unauthorized program. Unfortunately, the authorizing committees have not reauthorized an awful lot of these programs throughout the government. In fact, a few years ago, i tried to reduce funding by eliminating any money for endangered species listing because it was unauthorized for 26 years. We lost on the floor on that. But his sentment is correct and we need to make sure the authorizing committees do their job. The chair the gentleman from california. Mr. Mcclintock mr. Chairman, i can forgive my colleague from ohio for misstating californias history as she did earlier today but not the recent history that we were all quite familiar with. I would remind the gentlelady that this house passed three Appropriations Bills over to the senate, funding the entire government last year, including a lot of things that we would like to reform, that we agreed to fund all of those spending with one exception. We asked for a one year delay in he train wreck that has become obamacare. The American People see that was a realistic request, unfortunately the senate chose not to act and thats what caused the government to seize up and shut down. I want to correct the gentlelady in her suggestion that somehow this is minnesota vated because i dont like energy. I love energy. And i want to see it efficiently researched and that is best done by the private sector using its own money rather than the politicians using other peoples money to reward other companies. If these programs were all so worth while, why is it that the authorizing committees have not bothered to reauthorize them in a span of up to 35 years . I suggest that that fact speaks for itself. And until these programs are properly reviewed and reauthorized, all im asking is, we dont keep increasing their budgets, we freeze them until the authorizing committees review them and reauthorize them. And with that, i yield back. The chair the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. The question is on the amendment offered by the gentleman from california. Those in favor say aye. Those opposed, no. In the opinion of the chair, the noes have it. The amendment is not agreed to. Mr. Mcclintock i ask for a recorded vote. The chair pursuant to clause 6, rule 18, further proceedings on the amendment offered by the gentleman from california will be postponed. For what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition . Mr. Chairman, i have an amendment at the desk. The chair the clerk will report the amendment. The clerk amendment offered by mr. Perry. After the dollar amount insert increased by 20 million. Page 26 line 24, after the dollar amount, insert reduced by ,100,000. The chair pursuant to House Resolution 641, the gentleman from pennsylvania, and a member oppose, each will control five minutes. Mr. Perry i would like to thank chairman simpson and ranking ember kaptur for their diligence. Reducing our dependence on foreign oil should be something that we should pursue. Renewables is n, a significant component. This cuts hydropower by over 20 million and this amendment would seek to restore funding to hydropower. And its offset with a department of energy administrative cost. Thats where the money is coming from. And according to the budget office, the amendment reduces outlays by 8 million. Hydropower is available in every region, not just the east coast. Whole way across the country to the point that 2,200 hydropower plants provide america its most abundant source of clean, renewable electricity and accounts for 67 of domestic Renewable Generation or 7 of the total electricity generated. This could increase that to 15 . Creating over one million jobs by 2025. 1. 4 million, according to my figures. Mr. Chairman, hydroelectricity is predictable. You can count on it. Its not variable. You dont have to count on the wind blowing or the sunshining, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year as long as the rape is falling for generating power. You dont need a bank of batteries or the wind to be blowing or dont need an alternative source of baseload. Power is being generated and it provides at a relatively low maintenance cost. It is the most efficient and economic form of Renewable Energy. And its unobject truce i have. Not bothering anybody or birds flying into it or bats being killed on its blades. The fish swim right through it. Now, it does face a significant Regulatory Approval process. There is much red tape, which equates up to 15 years in permitting cycles. And thats a detractor that needs to be addressed. O much so there are 60,000 projects waiting final approval and pending before the commission in 45 of our 50 states that have this electricity if we could get through this red tape, mr. Chairman. Of our 80,000 dams in the United States, 600 of them have an immediate capability to produce energy at this moment. Harnessing conventional hydro energy will create a Renewable Energy source for our country. Its not just about pennsylvania or the 4th district that i represent, but about all of our country becoming Energy Independent on renewable. And i reserve the balance. The chair the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. For what purpose does the gentleman from idaho seek recognition . Mr. Simpson i claim time in opposition to the amendment. While i oppose the amendment, i understand my colleague wants to see increased funding for conventional hydropower. I understand that. Im a big fan of hydropower. In the Pacific Northwest why we have some of the cheapest electricity. The bill before us increases hydropower 1. 7 million above last year. I look forward to working with the gentleman on this Important Program as we move forward through this process. Ut i do oppose this amendment. Ms. Kaptur i wanted to align my remarks with yours and i would oppose the gentlemans amendment at this point. The potential of hydropower is hydro , both low power and im sure idaho has big falls and pennsylvania in many places. But the low power hydro that is characteristic of the Great Lakes Region offers enormous potential and there are new inventions to be had in capturing the power of water even as it moves in streams that flow just at grade. We need to allow this conversation to influence the department of energy so that there is more feanings given to hydro and to the development of new technologies, water dropping , being elevated and being dropped in different parts of the country as well as existing water sheds being used more effectively. I bet we could get more than 15 if we really put our minds to it. I wanted to offer general support of the idea, even though we cant support your amendment today. Lets hope in the future we uld find a better way with hydropower. Mr. Simpson i yield back. Mr. Perry reclaiming the balance. I look forward to working with the chairman on this and would ask unanimous consent to withdraw the amendment. The chair without objection. For what purpose does gentlelady from oregon seek recognition . The clerk amendment offered by the gentlelady from oregon. Insert increased by 9 million. Page 26, line 24, after the dollar amount insert reduced by 9 million. The chair pursuant to House Resolution, the gentlelady from oregon and a member opposed each will control five minutes. Ms. Bonamici i rise today because of the power and potential of water. In support of an amendment im pleased to offer with congressman michaud and congresswoman ping agree. Our amendment would increase department of energys Water Power Program by 9 million, a small price tag that will yield a huge return on investment. This increase is offset by the Departmental Administration account. The modest increase we are supporting will support hydropower and technologies along with marine and hydro technologies. Development of these new technologies can offer the United States the chance to lead the world in an emerging area of abundant Renewable Energy. Energy nd hydroki netic from weasks, currents and tides unlike the sun and wind do not stop is an exciting frontier in the renewable sector. Oregon State University and the university of washington are using federal funding from the Water Power Program to develop the northwest National MarineRenewable Energy center that will provide entrepreneurs a domestic location to test waves rather than traveling to scotland to use the european test center. Without continued investments, europe will remain the leader. They could generate a significant amount of total amount of energy used in the United States. As congress promotes technologies that can help lower our constituents energy bills, we must embrace new technologies. With this modest increase, the Water Power Program can do that while continuing to suppor