There ought to be a position where you tell people, even confidentially, what you are doing, and make sure there is responsible oversight. I said that congress has been in adequate. Yemen and a call from there is no evidence that the person is connected to a conspiracy, why would the nsa look at Something Like this . If you do and you are in contact with someone, you know, frankly, your nextdoor neighbor or your girlfriend may be looked at to determine if there is some kind of cell being form that can put people in the United States in danger. Inaction, itess has been intentional. No one wanted to dive deep into the agency and it would have made them a lot of enemies. Edward snowden has given an opportunity for Congress People to have a political shield and go to oversight without seeing any political retribution. Thomas jefferson said that, when the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. I want to reinforce that. If we fear every phone call from yemen, that is close to tyranny and i did not want to live in that kind of country or society. [applause] it is not fair to quote Thomas Jefferson against a virginian. It is not fair to do that. It is not fair to do that. But, i think that we need to recognize that what Edward Snowden has done this was a lowlevel guy and we do not know the whole story of Edward Snowden. Hopefully, we will put him on trial and find out more things about Edward Snowden. Is, what he has exposed is the superiority of our knowledge and the enemy knows that if they are sloppy with cell phones or use cell phones in a particular way, they will be tracked and they will change their conduct. They know that if they do certain things to give email information, they know that they are capable of being tracked. People in other countries know that if they operate in a particular way i gets United States, we will find out and, therefore, the people who are the adversaries to this country, they are changing their conduct right now because of Edward Snowden. If they could get at the citizens of the United States and make them suspicious of our country and government that we dismantle our advantages, at that point, that is a giant strategic victory for the enemies of this country. I promise you, ladies and gentlemen, if you do not believe me, you will go and see that we are at war. The worst is coming. We have to be as prepared as we can be. We have to be as active as we can be to protect the people of this country. The challenges, believe me, they are not behind us. Are you in favor of monitoring all electronic correspondence what would you replace correspondence . What would you replace the system with. We have to find out what they were doing. Itll was the frequency if was the frequency of every phone call you make, that is a violation of the Fourth Amendment. If the police think there is a crime behind the door, they can kick down the door. If there is not reasonable cause, they should not be monitoring everyday citizens. If there has to be reasonable cause and they have to get a warrant, so be it. The fisa courts have gone unchecked. I would not cease all of this. Im not saying to abolish the nsa and i have had this discussion with some. They say ima terrorist sympathizer and all of this crazy stuff. We live in a culture and environment that abuses its power every single day and we have to be careful in the way that we approach unchecked federal agencies and bureaucracies. Some of the labels me and says that i want to end all cellular data simulation. I say that we have to reform it and oversee it correctly. You are International Threats that are present today that were not there 34 years ago. There are many reasons for that. If we do not have congressional oversight of the agency, we will continue to see the erosion of civil liberties. Thank you. [applause] i have another question for you from the audience. These are great questions, by the way. Politicians have justified the removal of citizen liberty by using fear tactics. Moralu provide a justification for fourth amended violations that does not rely on fear . No. I believe in the Fourth Amendment. I have been a prosecutor. Cases and have gotten awards under the Fourth Amendment and have been restrained by the Fourth Amendment as a potential prosecutor. I understand that. I do not believe there is any excuse for building up fear in undo thepolitic to bill of rights or civil freedoms. We agree with that. I believe that we do not need to pretend that things are worse than they are. I have seen rand paul say that the government has no right to know what you are saying on your cell phone. He is right and he is exploiting and building up the suspicion and paranoia for his president ial aspirations. I do not support him and never will. We can do these things in a restrained and reasonable way and we can avoid the false choice. The false choice of saying, if you have a cell phone, you are against the nsa having the capacity to do the things to protect this country. I say, baloney what is necessary to use the advantages we have built up as a free society to protect a free society. We do have to throw these things away because of unscrupulous politicians, particularly the ones after 9 11. This was a horrible thing. This worries me. I sound a trumpet call. The congress ran like scalded apes. They were scared that they have been delinquent and negligent. They raced to do things that may have been reckless. I worry. I worry that we have not had a sufficient conversation. This panel at steamboat is a good panel and charlie is a great advocate in this area. We need to have more of a conversation with the American People to prepare them for the challenges of Homeland Security and for the adversaries that are determined to bring down the station. We ought to be this nation. We ought to be. If we dont, the enemy will attack us again. We have to be prepared to be in it for the long haul. The long haul is not just the safety, but the liberty. This concerns Digital Currency and privacy. I see a time where Paper Currency is gone and 100 of transactions are tracked by the nsa or irs. Looking with future technologies, what parameters to we need to put around security and liberty . What a great question. This comes from the rise of bitcoin, which people may or may not be familiar with. I love this question because, in to next two years, we need overhaul the way interdepartment collusion happens. More towards at technologically advances side it when it becomes easier and easier for unchecked bureaucracies to do what they do. Lets say all of it is online. The irs is dealing with the nsa and we have not made reforms. That is a scary tag team for a federal bureaucracy, if you ask me. This is why the can the discussion needs to happen. It needs to happen immediately. The oversight and the American People have to hold them accountable. Especially because we cannot elect bureaucrats. Ct bureaucrats. That is why we put people in congress. That is why we hold people in Congress Accountable to do that. You can vote them in or out. It is important that this is an topfive issue. I am for cash. I think we need to be thoughtful about the rise of technology. Paper mail is disappearing and we have heard about these wonderful letters from the founding fathers. Letters are not written much anymore. The world is changing. The technological capacity that we have created through the thernet is changing American Society and the world society. It is making things very different. I think that we have to be very thoughtful about this Going Forward and make sure that, whatever technological changes that we make, we never lose sight of the touchstone, as lynne cheney was talking about. Thank you. This question says, if we get suicide bombers, i believe that people will drastically overreact and make this a police state stop how do we prevent that . State. How do we prevent that . We are seeing that in ferguson. For a local police to have that kind of authoritative force, you can say, hold on a second, that is overwhelming. I agree. As americans, we have a tendency , as the governor said, summing happens and we overreact. We have a financial crisis in 2008 and we spent one training dollars we do not have. It is our tendency as americans in political discourse to do that. I will say that the greatest asset that we have as americans and i will disagree with the governor on this is not our intelligence. It is the patriotism and loyalty of the American People. If we lose is because the government creates paranoia and distrust in the American People, that cannot be undone by some sort of super computer. The patriotism that lies in every civil person in this room and every american is our greatest National Asset and what we must protect. For a lack of a better term, that is what the constitution was meant to do. Prevent the government from coming after us so that we can defend ourselves and thrive. Our greatest National Assets is not the nsa. It is not a super computer. It lies within ourselves as people. [applause] i agree with charlie. That is why america is exceptional and that is one of our basic principles, Going Forward. The future of this country and policy issecurity that americans are exceptional. We have touchstones that others do not have. I have lived and traveled to dozens of foreign countries. Each of them have their assets. The American Experience that charlie refers to is exactly correct. I think that we need to maintain those touchstones. I do want to say, once again, i dothat i worry worry about the rise of technology. If we lose this confidence in ourselves and our ability to govern ourselves, there is danger. I think the enemy the enemies of this country would like to do that. They would like to drive us to triggeringhere a attack would cause us to overreact and do the wrong thing. That is why i think another principal we have to have with the principle of Homeland Security is a conversation with the American People and more of a sense of how they are cut into a challenge that they face. Have an understanding with the American People of the challenges that are ahead of us in the long war that we are facing and go back to the touchstones that are referred to make sure that these are found in the American People so that, when the inevitable attack comes, we do not overreact and call on our government to do things that are proper. Member those touchstones. Remember those touchstones. I was unable to get to the stack. I will give them to the nsa agent to get back with you. I want to give these gentlemen Closing Remarks and suggest that you talk to them after the panel. Visit our website. You will find a wealth of information at both places. Since the governor started, i will let charlie do his statement first. We talked about the war list and unconstitutional behavior. A great solution for this is to email a constitution to each other. They would read it and maybe, finally, understand it. [applause] [laughter] been a great discussion and dialogue and i hope that everyone here was able to learn something and take something away from the panel. I will say that i do not trust the government. I started my opening remarks with a question. Do you trust the government . I want everyone to ask themselves that and i can venture a guess. Ask yourself if we should have an unchecked federal bureaucracy and what you are going to do to hold Congress People accountable . The constitution was written for a reason and it is a timeless document. Theas written to limit Government Authority against the people and to allow free people to prosper. The thought process behind the constitution, unlike any other document in human history, unlike the french and german, are the rights that come from god. They are the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Live our lives without big brother looking over our shoulder. And the future, we have to understand that if we allow government to go unchecked in the abuse of power, it will continue. No greatest National Asset, matter what the issue, is not the nsa or a supercomputer, it is you. Only the constitution can allow the American People to be free. Thank you. [applause] we need to recognize the challenges ahead and understand that we need to have a policy that means of the 21st century is an american century. We need a president who understands the exceptionalism of this country. Who understands the role of the United States in this world and a tumultuous time with rising technology, new opponents, and the opportunities that we have to provide stability in this country. Have to have an active form policy. Not a reckless one. An active one. We do not need to be lured into conflicts. Nor should we be withdrawing and opening up chances that we see for so many dangers to the world and to this country that we can adjust to and, with american leadership, can change. When a president who understands the nature of American Power and freedom. And, the opportunities that we have to do the right thing. In the end, we have to recognize that it is not a matter of whether we trust the government. We can change the government. We can change the government. Americans are in the position to do that. At the end a, we have to make sure that this long conflict that we are in now and that we are in ahead, we remain confident in ourselves. Thank you. [applause] put your hands together and give applause to these wonderful the baiters debaters. Thank you. Well done. Thank you. [applause] here is a look at the primetime schedule. A discussion on social workers and improving the lives of my doherty and impoverished communities. Books on astronauts. On cspan3, American History tv. Programs on the cold war. Summer, the House Budget Committee held a hearing program. L, state, an she testified on her experience of climbing out of poverty while on medical this ability. Here is a look. Every single day with three children on medical disabilities. Sometimes, maybe having to take and under the table job. There is not a lazy bone in my body. There are many people who live in the inner city on drill under the Poverty Level who are not lazy. We want to be part and have fulltime jobs. Go to college and things like that. I believe that certain people put a stamp of lazy on us to put a smoke screen and not see what is going on. They point the finger and look down on us. They try to twist our words. I feel like we are the most troubled people there are. We cut coupons like everyone else and go to work to strive for the american dream. That is what everybody strives for. The american dream. This is what we need to get back to. You strive hard, work hard, do your diligence and you get ahead, no matter what race, gender, creed, or where you come from. Portion of a hearing held earlier this summer by the House Budget Committee and you can city entire of event tonight at 9 15 on cspan. Today, Douglas Elmendorf held a budget conference. This is 40 minutes. Cbo director Douglas Elmendorf. Morning, im director of the Congressional Budget Office and thank you for coming. Up cbo has just released and date to our previous budget and economic projections. I will briefly summarize the projections beginning with the budget and turning to the economy than my colleagues and i will be happy to try to answer any questions you have. The federal budget deficit has fallen sharply during the past few years. Its on a path to decline further this year and next. Later in the coming decade under current law, the gap between spending and revenues would grow again relative to the size of the economy and federal debt would climb. Thee specific, we estimate deficit for this fiscal year will amount to 506 billion. Its about 170 billion dollars lower than the deficit in 2013. At 2. 9 of gross to mystic product, of gross to mystic object roddick, it will be much of gdp, it will be much lower. We can see what happens if current laws remain unchanged. The baseline projections are designed to serve as a benchmark for policymakers to use when considering possible changes to laws. Updatedg to our baseline projections, the deficit will remain less than three percent of gdp through 2018 but will grow thereafter reaching nearly four percent from 20222024. Federal outlays we boasted in the coming decade by four key factors the retirement of the baby boom generation, expansion of the federal subsidies for health insurance, Rising Health care costs per person, and increasing Interest Rates. Given those factors and under current law, spending in three key components of the budget would grow faster the the economy. Those components are social Major Health Care programs including medicare, medicaid, and subsidies and net Interest Payments. In contrast, spending and three other broad categories which ranked markedly relative to the size of the economy. That includes socalled mandatory spendi