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CSPAN Key Capitol Hill Hearings April 7, 2015

Host you served formally as an abbasid or two switzerland inlet as an ambassador to switzerland in liechtenstein. In looking at this relationship between the u. S. And iran, where do things stand now . Guest i am optimistic. In 2009, the two big missions were of secrecy. To get the swiss government to agree to the enhanced sanctions. Switzerland was at risk of being the whole of the donut in europe, the place iran would go to trade oil. And we have and our argument was we have to find some way to bring it to the table. When we finally bring them to the table and we get a Framework Agreement, this is a great step forward. We are where ahead of where we were just two years ago. Host the issue of iran will land first and foremost next week with the senate. I want to play you some of the comments from senator bob corker, this set the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and his concern over the deal expressed on Fox News Sunday yesterday. [video clip] one of the proposals being floated as a nonbinding vote by congress. You could disapprove the deal, but then the president could still go ahead and extend sanctions. Is that acceptable . Center corporate senator corker no, its not. I think the bill we have laid out had strong bipartisan support. Chairman menendez, who has stepped down, as we know, but Chuck Schumer supports this, tim kaine. There is strong bipartisan support for a binding vote in congress. The president needs to sell this to the American People, and Congress Needs to be involved in this way. Let me after the second question. The white house is that the president would veto the kind of legislation you are proposing. If you does, you dont need 51 votes or even 60 votes. You need 67 votes, which means 13 democrats to override his veto. Do you have 67 votes . Senator koerber senator corker i dont know if we have 67 votes or not, but we have 64 or 65 that we are aware of today. I talked to numbers of democrats over the weekend and i think there are many more that are considering this. Look, i think the American People want the United States senate to go through the steel. This deal. They understand this is one of the most important geopolitical agreement that will take place during this decade. This is an appropriate place to be. If the president feels like its something that is good for the nation, surely you can sell this to the United States senate and the house. Host congressman don beyer your thoughts on the senates role in this iranian deal. Guest i think senator corker is right that the congress does need to be involved. I think the congress does have a responsibly, which he is trying to fulfill, to sell this to the American People. But is also rented the same president that imposed the sanctions, but he is also right that the same power that gave the president the right to impose the sanctions gave him the right to listen. Host to join the conversation with our best, the numbers are on the screen. Lets go to calls. Mike is in monroe, georgia independent line. Your first up. Go ahead. Caller hey, guys, how are you doing this morning . Host fine, thank you. Caller congressman, going above your pay grade and talking to us below your pay grade how do you answer about the inspection process given the last iaea president of it openly admitted that they lied about saddam husseinas stuff even after they were in and kick out, in and kick out. How are we supposed to believe an independent agency that we have no representation in will be truthful to what they say . And i would appreciate a very honest answer. Thank you. Guest we do actually have quite a bit of representation in the iaea. We have an American Ambassador there. We have a significant michigan indiana, austria where there in vienna a significant mission in Vienna Austria where theyre located. The advisors have to come together for an independent audit. Most importantly, we have been able to inspect all of their facilities. As the president said in this current framework, we will be able to inspect the uranium from their minds through the process to where does stored. That is a lot of inspection. Host going to the experience of the iraqi weapons specters, any concern that there will be things that will be missed guest obviously, that will be missed . Guest there is obvious concern but we have to continue to work on it. We have gone 20 years without any infections in iran. Now we will have unprecedented access. That is a huge step forward. Host rhode island, independent line. Caller sir, i cannot disagree with you more. I was in the military and you scared me to death. First of all, we right now have found out about underground bunkers that they are processing plutonium in that we had no knowledge of and i can guarantee our inspectors will have no access to. That is number one. Number two, if you are wrong how many children in the military do you have that you are willing to sacrifice to fight these people in the event that they come and bong us bomb us . And never three, why are you number three, why are you so against israel that you give them no say in this matter . Our president refused to talk to him. Why . Guest thank you for your question about the military and sacrifices our military have made. We have already been involved in quite a few wars in the middle east. Iraq one, a rack to iraq two, and now in syria. I think the major policy goal now is to avoid getting into another major war. As the presently that clear he clearly, its not just avoiding war. Iran without the steel could move very quickly and send forces in war posture. This is the single best option to avoid american loss of life, avoid having to use american or israeli military. And there is enormous difference of opinion within israel. Netanyahu is the premise are but not the only voice. I think what we are trying to do is make israel as secure as possible. No american president has done as much to strengthen Israeli Security at this one house. Host lets go to the calls. Joe, democrat line. Hi, joe, youre on the air. Caller good morning. Usually when i call i say this is joe from the bronx, new york, a staunch democrat. What i want to say to you in reference to the topic we are discussing right now, when i speak to the people from main street, and those of the people i believe in, the people from main street, what they are saying is i wanted to try to talk to the republicans. You are the smart party. The thing that the republicans are trying to do and you know that from the aca, this president , they want him to go down in history for having done things that president frady years are trying to do and make it that president s have been trying to do for 80 years, make history. The only thing the democrats wanted to do was raise income, and they killed that. And now they are trying to oppose everything that is good for this country. Host joe, we will a you go there and get your thoughts. He mentioned main street. Have you heard much from your constituents in virginia . Guest not a lot yet over the weekend. But i do know anything that makes our heart our economy more secure and is good for business will affect our future. I dont think there is a smart party. I enjoy being in congress because there are a lot of smart people in both parties there. But i think humility has to come along with our socalled intelligence as we try to figure out what is going to be best for america and for the world. Host some look ahead to the debate that may be ahead on capitol hill, the wall street journal has a headline political battle ramps up over iran. And the hill as well. As a member of congress, who do you want to hear from to further strengthen your belief in the steel, your belief in this deal, your belief in the president . Guest eliot engel from new york and ed royce, the chair of the house Foreign Relations committee, they sent a strong letter to the president week or two ago about this deal. And i think this deal represents everything they asked for this letter. What i really hope for is that this does not become a democrat versus republican peace. As the president said in his interview with tom friedman yesterday, because netanyahu has concerns about the deal does not mean he should be aligning with House Republicans are senate republicans. And because we like the deal does not mean it should be a democrat thing either. Hopefully americans will be coming together. As they say, political wars and at the waters edge. Host why do you think thats not so much anymore . Guest i dont really know, because certainly we have seen unprecedented support for israel with democratic and republican president s alike since john kennedy forward. Both republicans and democrats are upset with settlements and dont see that as a two state solution. And both parties together deeply believe in our responsibly to help secure israels future. Host back to calls for congressman don beyer. In new jersey, hello. Caller good morning and thank you for taking my call. I just have a quick question. Im wondering if anyone has taken any poll, or has gotten the polls of the pulse of the American People with this decision with the decision that was made as far as the agreement. And also i noticed the iranian people were happy when their prime minister, whoever the sky whoever this guy is, but he brought the message back to them. Also, the saudi arabians, the egyptians, and the jordanians, what do they feel about the agreement . Do they feel that they will have to get Nuclear Weapons also . Those are the questions i would like to know. Host ok, a lot on the table there. Guest to the point of the iranians celebrate this framework deal, im sure its very true. Their economy has been destroyed in the last several years by the sanctions that we have placed on them with the european union. Their growth rate, the devaluation of their currency, they have been a mess. Anything that gives them relief. They were looking for a way out of the sanctions. Someone described it perfectly weve let them keep the buildings, but taken out all the furniture. We gone from we got significantly down in centrifuges. Weve gone from 10,000 down to 300 grams of enriched uranium. Their plutonium has completely gone away. As i say, the buildings are there, but theres no ability to move out. By the way, netanyahu said in 1992 that iran was only a year or two away from making a bond and making a bomb and now its 2015. As far as the saudis and the egyptians, some of this is tied up in sunni versus shiite. But also, we have been involved with the saudis against iran all these many years. The possibility that there might be peace and reconciliation might be threatening to them. Host congressman don beyer is our guest. He is a freshman congressman from virginia. We are talking about your calls we are taking your calls and talking about the framework for the agreement with iran last week. On another note, you are set to replace Chris Van Hollen as the finance chair of the congressional then Democrat Campaign committee. Congressional Democrat Campaign committee. What is the biggest challenge for you to get quality candidates and take back the house in 2016 . Guest that is the big question in it, finding quality candidates. We need 30 seats. We are at 188 right now, which is the fewest democratically since harry truman was president. We had a tough year in 2010. We lost 65. And this last week, after the ebola scares and the isis beheadings, it was a pretty terrible election. One in three eligible americans even showed up to vote that day. Our job is to get great candidates and for people to be excited enough to turn out. We expect some improvement. Even if we can get 18 to 22 that is a big step in the right direction. Host it is early yet, but is your game plan any different from what congressman van hollen laid out . Guest im really on the fundraising side, as chris was the finance chair. Lots of fundraising and trying to stick by the spirit and a letter of all of the fdic ideas. I do not like united citizens decision is all. We want to help fund those candidates on the edge, the reds or blue or frontline candidates. And there will only be 60 or 70 of them that have a chance to win. Some seats are safe for the republicans and some are safe for the democrats. We will be focusing on those seats that we have a chance. Host lets go back to calls. California, joseph on the independent line. Caller hello, and good morning everybody. I just want to remind everybody that israel got its Nuclear Weapons with their ally in south africa when they were in the apartheid regime. They were outright fascist. Me being a black person, i dont think israel should have any Nuclear Weapons. I think we should put sanctions on israel to get rid of their Nuclear Weapons. Guest thank you, joseph. One of the interesting things to come out of the last conference with the nonproliferation treaty, which iran has signed and israel has not signed, this frame is a big step in the right direction. Israel has never admitted to having Nuclear Weapons. I dont know they have them or not. Certainly, it is a worthy goal that there be no Nuclear Weapons in the middle east. Host on the line from oklahoma, james. Good morning. Caller good morning and thank you for taking my call. I totally agree with the guy that just talked about israel not having Nuclear Weapons either. Mr. Netanyahu, he came over and he lied to the American People and he also lied to his own people when he said he was against the twoparty state right before he got elected, and then switched back and said, well, i am for the two party state. I think the American People, especially the religious right here in america, should understand that without the United States netanyahu would not have a bed to sit on, much less to sleep in in israel right now. We are the guys holding those people up. I dont think youll ever get the religious right here in america to agree with anything the democrats or obama will try to do with iran, any kind of agreement. They will just disagree with it over religious prejudice. And that to me in my mind is someone that likes to think about things as someone who likes to think about things, its irrelevant. We do have a talking point. We did finally get them to the table. But the israelis are extremely jealous of that. And as far as negotiating, they cannot even negotiate with the palestinians. We have every right to be over there, to talk to a ron to iran, and those people have a right to celebrate, because they are finally getting some of that stuff off their backs that they have been carrying around now for about 20 years. I will be celebrating, too, if i finally get a little food again. Host that is james. Guest thank you, james. John was on just before i was and he was one of the original hostages. He pointed out many years ago when he was deputy secretary that all those years only had 10,000 Nuclear Weapons aimed at the soviet union and they had 10,000 aimed at us, we always had an embassy there. We had a consulate and discussions. We havent had an embassy in iran since 1980, i think. Finally, to get a dialogue and the chance for peace, the chance for reconciliation, this is a good step forward. Host tony from pennsylvania, republican line. Caller i think obama gets a lot of credit. Its a good deal and its a good chance to avoid war. My problem is all of the rhetoric against iran. Correct me if im wrong. Isnt it true that all the security agencies, including the saudis, agree that iran has not attempted to make a Nuclear Weapon . Isnt this a country that has not attacked anyone in 112 years . And i always hear the republicans saying the same line state sponsor of terrorism. But when you talk about terrorism, isnt it israel that seems to bomb their neighbors at will in response to these sky rocket attacks and killed tens of thousands of people in lebanon and syria . Who is the terrorist. Who is the terrorist here . Host lots of questions. We will let congressman baier respond. Guest thank you for your perspective. Theres a lot of history here. When i was ambassador in switzerland, switzerland represents us. This was ambassador would say, as much as we distrust the iranians and think they will cheat, the iranians distrust us going back to 1973 when we helped to overthrow their democratically elected president. It goes both ways. There is skepticism. My big problem with netanyahu when he came to speak to congress when he when the they came to the idea of no deal is better than a bad deal, he did not discuss an alternative. Theres this option that iran will hurry to make it bomb which brings on military action. That is what causes bloodshed. As we know from 1939 and 1914, was the first bullet flies, you cannot predict what will happen. Host were you in the House Chamber during that meeting . Guest i was. I spoke out against the invitation. I thought it was very bad lyrical etiquette, very bad diplomacy. But also out of respect for the relationship between the United States and israel, i wanted to go and give him the respect of listening to the argument. Host youre a congressman from northern virginia. A lot of your constituents are federal employees. I wanted to ask you about the budget proposal, which is on the front page of executive magazine. Talking about ben cardin, i will send in front of the bus to protect federal pay and benefits. Talk about that. Guest it is more bad news unfortunately. Ever since reagan we have been talking about getting government off the backs of our people. We tend to look at federal employees as a bad guys, but they are the good guys. Since the 1960s, the private sector workforce has grown by 145 . The number of people in america has grown by 66 percent. In federal employees have grown by 9 . We are getting more and more work out of fewer people. In the last several years they got no raise at all. 1 last year. I think the president proposed 3 this year. It probably wil

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