Mailing Democratic Caucus woman posted this reminder on twitter. 11 a. M. Tomorrow, lgbtq and gun violence prevention advocates unite and easy to demand action. I stand with them to disarm hate. On can see the rally here cspan and watch it live starting at 11 00 a. M. Eastern time that is my way. Here on cspan. Now lets get a look at what is coming up on primetime tonight. In just a few moments, it is newsmakers with libertarian president ial candidate gary johnson, before governor of the state of new mexico. Then well take your calls after that to get your thoughts on what you heard from gary johnson and what else you have to say about the 2016 president ial race. Following that, donald trump on a Campaign Rally in erie something you. Joining us from las vegas on cspans Newsmakers Program is former new mexico governor gary johnson. Thank you very much for being with us. Gov. Johnson great to be with all of you. Thank you. David, senioris correspondent for the washington examiner. Also the host of the examining politics podcast which is governor, letne me begin with the commission on president ial debates which is for at the benchmark of 15 you to anticipate. The first scheduled for late september. Gov. Johnson is that a fair benchmark . I think the benchmark is fair. What is not there is that all the polls being conducted right clinton ande, and on the second or third question they will ask what happens if you add johnson to the mix. Right now we are pretty solidly in the 10 range. Reportshe media just the top two lines. What you have is a majority of people in this country dont know there is a thirdparty candidate. I believe if my name was just included in the top line, i would be at 20 . Me and build what would be at the 20 . A lot of that having to do with the discontent of donald trump and clinton. Buildout and myself, libertarian candidate for president. We will be the only third party and all 50 states. With some new polling numbers just out today. Reuters with the poll numbers out this afternoon found clinton at 41, trump at 35 and you at 7 and just on at 3 . That is half, less than half of the 50 mark. What can you do 15 mark. What can you do between now and september . How are you reaching out to disaffected republicans. A lot of republicans not satisfied. Gov. Johnson over the last month, our numbers have doubled. Seven is about as low as i have seen and im not trying to make an excuse for the seventh but low seven is about as low as ive seen in any poll. Im just back to my example, i daresay that that poll that was just conducted had donald trump and Hillary Clinton at the getgo and as an afterthought they added my name to it. 65 of americans dont even know there is a third party. Our social media numbers have doubled in the last month and so we are reaching about 25 million people. , in ouroing it with but with robust fundraising that fundraising does not match either trump or clinton but i think its these volumes to just how much discontent there is out there and i think bill weld and myself are in this big lane in the middle. We are fiscally conservative and socially tolerant and accepting. We are questioning these military interventions. But at the end of the day are making the world less safe and not more safe. If we support regime change, this is what we get. You could talk to us a little bit about some of the metrics of your campaign. There hasnt more attention given to your Campaign Given the circumstances than is normally paid to a third party. Can you talk to us about your fundraising, where it is at . Talk to us about your Campaign Organization . Where do think when we look at states around the country, where do you think you will do the most damage to try to score some upset victories . Gov. Johnson we think that by being in the president ial, neither of us, to former republican governors, reelected in heavily democratic states, we think that if we are in the president ial debate, anything is possible and we do believe that is a very real possibility. Looking at the western states, you could look at utah, wyoming, nevada, montana, the dakotas. Alaska. On the east side, bill weld would have a list of those himself. Where we might actually win outright. The idea is to win outright. I know that sounds crazy. But this is a crazy election cycle and i saw last week, two weeks ago, the projected audience for the first president ial debate is going to be exceed that of the super bowl. There is no way to we have any chance of winning if we are not in that game. Meaning the president ial debate. Raisedld trump has questions on the commission, the date for the moderators, i was setting himself to say im not going to participate. Do you worry that if you are included in the debate, you might give either Hillary Clinton or donald trump a reason to say we will not be there . Gov. Johnson i dont think people will stand for that. We will see. That would be a big mistake given what i just mentioned. Super bowl audience, declined that . I dont think that would be a wise decision politically. You said you are seen more fundraising than the last election cycle. Expected public funding. Are you planning to do that again this time or have you taken the office table . Gov. Johnson we have taken it off. It is a pain in the rear. There are billions of dollars in this fun. We check in often we file our income tax prepare there billions of dollars in this fund in their disputing the 300,000 that we took in matching funds. It is political. It is democrats and republicans doing everything they can to discourage a third party. We are opting out of this matching funds because of our experience the last cycle were literally were being questioned on eyes dotted and hes crossed. That was with a relationship with the federal elections commissions that kind of went like this. Back and forth. They said you cant hold us to anything. All of a sudden, the communication dried up and all these questions after the entire time we were engaged with them. Were going to stick clear that. What does your fundraising look like in the Third Quarter . Gov. Johnson i think that it is perhaps they to say that we might be at 10 times the level we were in the whole cycle of 2012. I think you will some robust numbers relative to democrats and republicans. Back butll a long ways enough funds for us to actually be able to play in this game. Much has been written about the relationship between you and the reverend made running mate and mitt romney. Will mitt romney be endorsing you and your running mate . Gov. Johnson i think it would be difficult for someone who is a prior elected republican to endorse circulate it is harder if you are an elected republican or democrat to cross over the line but we are seeing that. Regardless of whether its mitt romney or not, there are those that are crossing the line. Do you want his endorsement . Gov. Johnson it would be terrific to have it. Im not expecting it. Im not expecting anybody understanding the realities of being a former elected official or an elected official. That is a tough one for those that are in the position. Back to ginger gibson and the poll numbers from reuters, does that surprise you the low number for donald trump . Gov. Johnson ive always maintained that donald trump alienates more than half of republicans and a republican for me has always meant Smaller Government and that is what bill weld and i are. We are Smaller Government. On the Civil Liberties side, and ae side of Marriage Equality, womans right to choose, legalizing marijuana, really question our military intervention. I think that is but also draws from democrats. We draw equally from both sides. No surprises. Donald trump alienates republicans. What about the ted cruz republicans who say they cant vote for donald trump . Maybe you have encountered some who have said they cant get behind legalizing marijuana and Marriage Equality and any of the other social issues, when you interact with those voters, what do you tell them . It doesnt matter what you are socially as long as you dont force it on others. The comedown on the side of ,hoice on all of these issues that is the libertarian position. The libertarian position is also, the weld and i are promising in the first 100 days to submit a balanced budget on how you do that. To do that you have to address medicaid and medicare, to do that reform needs to take place ,ith regard to Social Security it is not cutting Social Security but reform. And military spending. When the pentagon itself says we could reduce u. S. Bases by 20 and that has not happened, where is the common sense your . That,anted to pick up on how do you envision your first 100 days, to get a feel your style of libertarian, when a lot of voters, people who dont pay as much attention as we do, think about libertarians they think about the Political Party that doesnt believe the government should run stoplights. Let it private Company Police the streets. Are johnson you know you libertarian when you come to the intersection at 2 00 a. M. , the light is red, you sit there for a second and then there is nobody coming from any direction whatsoever, so you go through the intersection, that is a libertarian trade. When a lot of people think of you, they think primarily about your stance on marijuana which is becoming more and vote across the country. Walk us through both domestically and internationally , Foreign Policy wise, how you envision your presidency . What you would do in your first 100 days . We have both clinton and trump talk about less foreign intervention. Trump has gone so far as to say he would pull the u. S. Out of world war ii alliances. What you look back as a commanderinchief as it relates to the traditional u. S. Foreignpolicy and domestically, what you try to do first . Gov. Johnson we honor our all treaties. It would be wrong to come to the office and not honor everything it is that we are obligated to do. With regard to Foreign Policy, i think we need to get congress involved in a declaration of war. We need to have an Invincible National defense but when we get involved in regime change, that is when things get messy. But clinton and obama, backed both the opposition in libya and syria and this was not intentional, but they backed the opposition, they armed the opposition and the opposition was aligned with isis. The opposition gets wiped out and isis ends up with all the weapons and that is what we are dealing with. Afghanistan, i supported going into afghanistan to begin with because we were attacked. Make no bones about it, if we are attacked, we will attack that back. We went to afghanistan to get Osama Bin Laden and al qaeda after seven months we wiped out al qaeda. No Osama Bin Laden that we could have left after seven months and kept our options open for Osama Bin Laden but look, getting out of afghanistan tomorrow, as bad as that situation might be, youre going to face the same consequences 20 years from now and that is if we decide to get out or forever according to some. Have we not learned the lessons of history . It does not work when it comes to afghanistan. Do you agree or disagree with donald trump when he calls the president the founder of isis antis Hillary Clinton into that . Gov. Johnson unintentional. That somehowis, has this connotation that they support isis. They did not support isis. Has been bett unintended consequence of seeing that happen. It isnt just obama and clinton. It was going into iraq, getting rid of Saddam Hussein which was a check when it came to iran. Regime change, we get in regime involvement, we end up with all these new consequences that continue us in the state of what seems to be endless war. One quick followup, going back in kind of mistakes that we could look at and if this was not done, we may not face this problem. What we are facing today is a threat from the Islamic State and both republicans and democrats and people unaffiliated seem to recognize that. There have been two isis inspired terrorist attacks on our soil in the past year, we have seen what is been going on europe. What is your plan india get plan, deepika requires a u. S. Plan do you think it involves a plan . Gov. Johnson i think that isis, you can look at it as standard hourglass group they originally contained. You point out that there were terrorist actions carried out in this country that were isis inspired. Certainly not directly linked with isis but we will see that isis brett through to its conclusion. I also think it is significant that a couple weeks ago, there was a poll among active military personnel on whom they supported for president of the United States and myself and bill weld were on top of that poll with donald trump second and clinton third. Coverage raise a lot of eyebrows last month when he said that he would require some ext before moving to defend checks before moving to a nato ally. Do you share his opinion that nato need to be reevaluated and that the treaty is outdated or do you think that the Current Situation where we as a nation would move as quickly as in its allies should remain . Gov. Johnson we need to honor all existing treaties and obligations. No bones about that. But the world is dynamic. Government is dynamic. Treaties, dothese we really want to go to war over countries that were in the former soviet union . Communism is dead. Russia that read that revolution. Forward,orld moving look, the whole intention of a johnsonweld administration will be to make the world a safer place. Not a laissez place. And that context, i really think the biggest threat is north korea and the fact that at some point these Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles are going to work. From the standpoint of diplomacy, i think we should really join with china here to address this because they understand this better than anyone. We have 40,000 troops in south korea. There is no chance that north korea invaded south korea conventionally. But they do have those Nuclear Weapons if we have been covered with our umbrella but that is the scary part of all of this, are we going to go to nuclear war with north korea . That in my opinion have to be addressed in we can do that with china and potentially have the 40,000nity to withdraw troops from south korea. Imagine china with 40,000 troops in Central America . Gov. Johnson one of the words we have been one of the words you been hearing a lot his temperament. Do you think that donald trump has the temperament to be commanderinchief . Gov. Johnson no. And i base that on all these things that he has said starting with the deportation of 11 million illegal immigrants. That has the basis in total this understanding, building a fence across the border and am speaking now as a border state governor, when he calls mexican immigrants murderers and rapists when in fact statistically they are more lawabiding than u. S. Citizens. They are not taken job that u. S. Citizens want. We should be embracing immigration. We should make it as easy as possible for somebody that wants to come to this country and work to be able to get a work visa. They work visa should intelligent crop check and a Social Security card and applicable taxes. With regard to being inflammatory and divisive and isolationist, these are the words that donald trump seems to be uttering everything will day. I think he said 150 think that would disqualify anyone else from being president of the United States and all you have to do is wait until tomorrow and it will be 153. Speaking of domestic politics, talk to us about your position on nafta, transpacific partnership. The point still shows pulling still shows there is majority support for free trade agreements. Politically there has become a bar partisan sense bipartisan sense to muster support difficult for tpp and renegotiating nafta. Candidates,r republican and democrat, are in some agreement on trade at least rhetorically. What would you do as president and just can throw this out there, we talked about reducing the size and scope of government, what does that mean . Gov. Johnson is there any part of government that couldnt be more efficient . I dont think any of us would suggest that government cant be more efficient and that everybody could do with less. But you cant do with less if you are not going to actually address medicaid and medicare. Those are the 800 pound gorillas in the room and we are the free trade candidates. Capitalism isrony alive and well in the world. Chronic capitalism, very simply that is one government gets these deals that unfairly give advantages to those that ultimately pay for that advantage. Afraid, and this country, we have come to associate freetrade and crony capitalism as one in the same when in fact they are opposites. Free trade is what it implies. Without government interference. , if itent regulation comes to health and safety, that is one thing but if it comes to actually unfair advantage meaning those that have money and influence, they pay for. Im speaking now as the former governor of new mexico sing this legislation passed in be doing all of it whenever i saw unfair. Dvantage i dont think we can achieve income inequality but we can an opportunity quality. That is what people generally want. Thatright now is an issue there is no opportunity equality. But there can be. There is one place in the polls where you are doing better than donald trump and that is among millennials. One might joke that it would be year marijuana position but other than that, why do you think young people are more interested in your campaign and they are in the republican opponent . Gov. Johnson im leading Company Comes to millennials and if you take the 1824 age group, actually leading among that age group. Draw your own conclusions. We have blown it. My generation has blown it. These are issues that should have been resolved long ago. They have not been. And the issues that there wou