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There are not enough people telling the stories of how difficult it is to be a woman and a girl child. How many stories have we done on Child Marriages . I cant count. You cannot do enough because really in the middle east, they are not telling the story. Is too close to home. A campaign we launched in 2015 to encourage people to engage and be part of the discussion of important issues in the region, including extremism, root causes of extremism, womens rights, human rights, all these issues important. Watch the communicators tonight on cspan two. Joining us from las vegas is fo former new mexico governor gary johnson. Thank you for being with us. Gov. Johnson great to be with all of you. Thank you. Joining us is david drucker, Senior Correspondent for the washington examiner. He is also the host of the examining politics podcast which is Available Online at washingtonexaminer. Com. Thank you for joining us. Governor, let me begin with the commission on president ial debates which is sent at the benchmark the 15 minimum for you to participate in the upcoming debate. The first scheduled for late september. Is that a fair benchmark . Gov. Johnson i think the benchmark is fair. What is not fair is that all the polls being conducted right now have trump and clinton and about 40 of the polls on the second and third question will ask what happens if you add johnson to that mix. Right now, we are pretty solidly in the 10 range. But if they were to and, 99 of the media just reports the top two lines. What you have is a majority of people in this country dont even know there is a thirdparty candidate. I believe if my name was just included in the top line, i would be at 20 . A lot of that having to do with the discontent of trump and clinton. Bill and myself, libertarian candidates for president. We will be the only third party on the ballot in all 50 states. With some new polling numbers from reuters just out today. Reuters with the poll numbers out this afternoon found clinton at 41 , trump at 35 and you at 7 , and jill stein at 3 . That is half, less than half of of the 15 mark. What can you do between now and september to clear 15 . How are you freaking out to disaffected republicans . 35 is pretty low for a republican nominee. There are clearly a lot of republicans not satisfied with their nominee. Gov. Johnson over the last month, our numbers have doubled. Seven is about as low as i have seen, and im not trying to make an excuse for the seven is about as low as ive seen in any poll. Im just back to my example, i daresay that that poll that was just conducted had trump and clinton at the getgo and as an afterthought, they added my name to it. 65 of americans dont even know there is a third party. Our social media numbers have doubled in the last month and so we are reaching about 25 million people. We are doing it with in our case with robust fundraising but that fundraising does not match either trump or clinton, but i speaks volumes to just how much discontent there is out there and i think bill weld and myself are in this big six lane in the middle. We are fiscally conservative and socially tolerant and accepting. We are questioning these military interventions. At the end of the day, they are making the world less safe and not more safe. When we support regime change, this is what we get. Let me turn to david drucker. I was hoping you could talk to us a little bit about some of the metrics of your campaign. There hasnt more attention given to your Campaign Given the circumstances than is normally paid to a third party. Can you talk to us about your fundraising, where it is at . Talk to us about your Campaign Organization . Where is that . Where are we going to find you the most . Where do you think you can make the most damage to try to score some upset victories and possibly surprise people . Gov. Johnson we think that by being in the president ial neither of us, to former republican governors, reelected in heavily democratic states, we think that if we are in the president ial debate, anything is possible. And we do believe that is a very real possibility. Looking at the western states, you could look at utah, wyoming, nevada, montana, idaho, the dakotas, alaska. On the east side, bill weld would have a list of those himself where we might actually win outright. The idea is to win outright. I know that sounds crazy. But this is a crazy election cycle, and i saw last week, two weeks ago, where the projected audience for the first president ial debate is going to exceed that of the super bowl. There is no way to we have any chance of winning if we are not in that game. Meaning the president ial debate. Already donald trump has raised questions on the commission on president ial debates, the dates, who the moderators will be. Almost setting himself up to say i am not going to participate. Do you worry that if you are included in the debate, you might give either Hillary Clinton or donald trump a reason to say we will not be there . Gov. Johnson i dont think people will stand for that. But we will see. I think that would be a big mistake given what i just mentioned. Super bowl audience, youd decline that . I dont think that would be a wise decision politically. You said you are seen more in this fundraising cycle than the last election cycle. You expected public funding. Are you planning to do that again this time or have you taken that off of the table as an option . Gov. Johnson we have taken it off. It is a pain in the rear. The fact that there are billions of dollars in this fund. We check it off when we file our income tax prepare there billions of dollars in this fund and they are disputing the 300,000 that we took in matching funds. It is political. It is democrats and republicans , and they do everything they can to discourage a third party. We are opting out of this matching funds because of our experience the last cycle were literally were being questioned the id thought it andy td crossed. That was with a relationship with the federal elections commissions that kind of went like this. Back and forth. They said you cant hold us to anything. All of a sudden, the communication dried up and all these questions after the entire time we were engaged with them. So really were going to stick steer clear of that. Just a quick followup. What does your fundraising look like in the Third Quarter . July 1 and onward . Gov. Johnson i think that it is perhaps safe to say that we might be at 10 times the level we were in the whole cycle of 2012. I think you will some robust numbers relative to democrats and republicans. It is still a long ways back but enough funds for us to actually be able to play in this game. Much has been written about the relationship between you and your running mate and mitt romney. Will mitt romney be endorsing you and your running mate . Gov. Johnson i think it would really be difficult for someone who is a prior elected republican to endorse. Certainly it is harder if you are an elected republican or democrat to cross over the line but we are seeing that. , regardless of whether its mitt romney or not, there are those that are crossing the line. I am really heartened by all of it. Do you want his endorsement . Gov. Johnson it would be terrific to have it. Im not expecting it. Im not expecting anybody understanding the realities of being a former elected official or an elected official. That is a tough one for those that are in the position. Let me go back to ginger gibson and the poll numbers from reuters. Does that surprise you, that low number for the republican nominee . Gov. Johnson ive always maintained that donald trump alienates more than half of republicans and a republican for me has always meant Smaller Government and that is what bill weld and i are. We are Smaller Government. On the Civil Liberties side, and the side of Marriage Equality, a womans right to choose, legalizing marijuana, really question our military intervention. I think that also draws from democrats. I think we draw equally from both sides. No surprises. Donald trump alienates republicans. Governor, what about the ted cruz republicans who say they cant vote for donald trump . Maybe you have encountered some who have said they cant get behind legalizing marijuana and Marriage Equality and any of the other social issues. When you interact with those voters, what do you tell them . What is your pitch to say they can vote for you despite their differences . Gov. Johnson it doesnt matter what you are socially as long as you dont force it on others. To come down on the side of choice on all of these issues, that is the libertarian position. The libertarian position is also bill weld and i are promising in the first 100 days to submit a balanced budget on how you do that. To do that, you have to address medicaid and medicare, to do that reform needs to take place with regard to Social Security, and that is not cutting Social Security but reform. And it is military spending. When the pentagon itself says we could reduce u. S. Bases by 20 and that has not happened, where is the common sense here . I wanted to pick up on that, talk to you about how you envision your first hundred days agenda. Just to get a feel your style of libertarianism. When a lot of voters, people who dont pay as much attention as we do, think about libertarians they think about the Political Party that doesnt believe the government should run stoplights. Let a private Company Police the streets. Right . Gov. Johnson you know you are libertarian when you come to the intersection at 2 00 a. M. , the light is red, you sit there for a few seconds and there is nobody coming from any direction whatsoever, so you go through the intersection. That is a libertarian trait. When a lot of people think of you, they think primarily about your stance on marijuana which is becoming more in vogue across the country. Walk us through both domestically and internationally, foreign policywise, how you envision your presidency . What you would do in your first 100 days . We have both clinton and trump to some degree talk about less foreign intervention. Although in some ways trump is a lot more hawkish as clinton. Trump has gone so far as to say he would pull the u. S. Out of longstanding postworld war ii alliances. What you look back as a what do you look like as a commanderinchief as it relates to the traditional u. S. Foreignpolicy and domestically, what you try to do first . Before you have lost your political capital. Gov. Johnson we honor all treaties and obligations. That would be wrong to come to the office and not honor everything it is that we are obligated to do. With regard to foreign policy, i think we need to get congress involved in a declaration of war. We need to have an Invincible National defense, but when we get involved in regime change that is when things get messy. , not on purpose but clinton and obama backed both the opposition in libya and syria, and this was not intentional, but they backed the opposition. They armed the opposition and the opposition was aligned with isis. The opposition gets wiped out and isis ends up with all the , arms. That is what we are dealing with right now. Afghanistan. I supported going into afghanistan to begin with because we were attacked. Make no bones about it. If we are attacked, we will attack back. With regard to afghanistan, we went to afghanistan to get Osama Bin Laden and al qaeda. After seven months, we wiped out al qaeda. Know Osama Bin Laden, but we could have left afghanistan after seven months and kept our options open for Osama Bin Laden. But look, getting out of afghanistan tomorrow, as bad as that situation might be, youre going to face the same consequences 20 years from now if that is when we decide to get out or forever according to some. Have we not learned the lessons of history . It does not work when it comes to afghanistan. Do you agree or disagree with donald trump when he calls the president the founder of isis and also tied Hillary Clinton, calling her the m. V. P. . Gov. Johnson unintentional. Founder of isis, that somehow has this connotation that they support isis. No, they didnt support isis. The end result has been bet that unintended consequence of seeing that happen. It isnt just obama and clinton. It was going into iraq. It was getting rid of saddam hussein, which was a check when it came to iran. Regime change. We get involved in regime change. We end up with all these new consequences that continue us in the state of what seems to be endless war. One quick follow up. Going back in time, there are mistakes that we could look at and if this was not done, we may not face this problem. What we are facing today is a threat from the islamic state. Both republicans and democrats and people unaffiliated seem to recognize that. There have been two isisinspired terrorist attacks on our soil in the past year, we. We have seen what is been going on europe. What is your plan . Do you think it requires a usled plan to combat the threat of isis and defeat it . Governor johnson how about progress getting involved in having a National Discussion and debate on how we move forward. I think that isis you can look at it as sand through an hourglass. You point out that there were terrorist actions carried out in this country that were isis inspired. Certainly not directly linked with isis, but we will see that isis threat through to its conclusion. I also think it is significant that a couple weeks ago, there was a poll among active military personnel on whom they supported for president of the United States. Myself and bill weld were on top of that poll with donald trump second and clinton third. Governor, donald trump raised a lot of eyebrows last month when he said that he would require some checks before moving to defend a nato ally if the russians were to attack, or another country were to attack one of those nations. Do you share his opinion that nato needs to be reevaluated and that the treaty is outdated or do you think that the Current Situation where we as a nation would move as quickly as in its to protect an ally should remain in place . Gov. Johnson we need to honor all existing treaties and obligations. No bones about that. But the world is dynamic. Government is dynamic. Reexamining these treaties, do we really want to go to war over countries that were in the former soviet union . Communism is dead. That was russia that led that revolution. The new world moving forward, look, the whole intention of a johnsonweld administration will be to make the world a safer place. Not a less safe place. In that context, i really think the biggest threat is north korea and the fact that at some point, these Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles are going to work. From the standpoint of diplomacy, i think we should really join with china here to address this because they understand this better than anyone. We have 40,000 troops in south korea. There is no chance that north korea invades south korea conventionally. But they do have those nuclear weapons. We have them covered with our umbrella, but that is the scary part of all this. Are we going to go to nuclear war with north korea . That in my opinion has to be addressed, and we can do that with china and potentially have the opportunity to withdraw 40,000 troops from south korea. Imagine china with 40,000 troops in Central America . Gov. Johnson one of the words one of the words we have been hearing a lot is temperament with regards to donald trump. Do you think donald trump is the has the temperament to be commanderinchief . Gov. Johnson no. And i base that on all these things that he has said starting with the deportation of 11 million illegal immigrants. That has the basis in total this misunderstanding, building a fence across the border and am speaking now as a border state governor. When he calls mexican immigrants murderers and rapists, when in fact statistically they are more lawabiding than u. S. Citizens. They are not taking job that u. S. Citizens want. We should be embracing immigration. We should make it as easy as possible for somebody that wants to come to this country and work to be able to get a work visa. A work visa should entail a background check and a Social Security card and applicable taxes. With regard to being inflammatory and divisive and isolationist, these are the words that donald trump seems to be uttering every single day. I think he said 150 think that would disqualify anyone else from being president of the United States and all you have to do is wait until tomorrow and it will be 153. Speaking of domestic all caps on governor, talk to us about your position on nafta, the transpacific partnership. The polling still shows there is somewhat of majority support for free trade agreements. Politically, there has become a bipartisan sense difficult to muster support for tdd and even talking about renegotiating or walking away from nafta. It gets you a good, loud cheer. The two major candidates, the republican and democrat, are in somewhat of agr