About taxes when we come back. We also want to thank our students who have supplied their questions. And also on social media. We will take a quick break and we will be right back. Jim we are having a good discussion. I hope you feel that as well. As for the candidates, has this been good for you so far . Sen. Toomey sure. Ms. Mcginty i wouldnt have missed it for the world. [laughter] jim i want to ask a quick question of both of you. Im looking for some quick impressions. You dont have to take a full minute. Close to 100 million has been raised for this campaign. Most of that money has gone to Television Ads across the state. It seems that most of those ads have been harsh, bitter attacks against your opponent. So heres my question. When voters hear this bad stuff about each of you for months on end, every time the turn on the television, doesnt that contribute to the general sense of distrust in and distaste for politics and government that we have been hearing so much about recently . Sen. Toomey theres no question its been a Staggering Amount of money spent and a Staggering Amount of ads. Katie mcginty will decry citizens united, but she is a big beneficiary had it beneficiary of it. I suggested, as a way to fight back against this, we have five debates across the commonwealth. Five debates away could get into more indepth discussions, rather than the 30second soundbites. She insisted only two. The fact is there is only one person in this campaign whose ads had to be taken down because there were so flagrantly dishonest. That is Katie Mcgintys ads. That is the difference. Frankly, katie tends to deny many of the things she has done. Go to my website. You can see we have documented the fact that the dep under her leadership used confession of judgment. We documented the fact that she scripted the ad that had to be taken down. We documented the dishonesty that has been a problem in this campaign. Ms. Mcginty what is dishonest is what the senator has just said. There is actually only one candidate on the stage who had to take his ad down. That was senator to me. My campaign has had to take no ads down. And theres only one person standing on the stage who repeatedly independent Fact Checkers have said that senator toomeys as are false, misleading. And no wonder. The senator doesnt want us to look at his record, a record of owning a bank foreclosing on his own constituents. Lets talk about money and politics though. I am proud to have the endorsement of an Organization Called end citizens united, dedicated to getting this dark, secret unaccountable money out of our politics. Senator toomey had a chance to vote on that and vote against overturning citizens united. And no wonder. Senator tammy has more money coming in from organizations like the koch brothers. Jim im not sure your respective answers have done much to eliminate distrust and distaste. [laughter] but lets go on. The Washington Post and this is serious did a poll of shootings and found that black did a study on Police Shootings and found that black men who represent 6 of the population accounted for 40 of the unarmed men shot to death by police. I think we all agree that the vast majority of Police Officers are extraordinarily brave and noble men and women. But do you think that these numbers show that there is institutional bias in america split department . Ms. Mcginty you know, we have made a lot of calm a lot of progress in discrimination. But we by no means have fully succeeded in eradicating racism and discrimination from our society. Let me say, my faith tradition, i am happy to say black lives matter. From where i stand, when we recognize the dignity of any person, we are all lifted up. And when any person is denied dignity, we are taken down. I say that also as the daughter of a policeman who reveres the work of Law Enforcement. Our family would say goodbye to dad in the morning. Didnt know when he becoming home. Thats why i had moved forward to say lets give the police force the tools that a need, double the Community Policing program, and make sure the have the equipment and resources to be active in the community. Senator toomey has pushed a punishment the police bill that would strip lawenforcement of critical resources. I know that works from a Tea Party Point of view. Take any Government Program away that hurts our safety and security in our community. Jim do you think there is institutional bias in some of our police force . Ms. Mcginty i think it we still have some work to do. I agree with your assessment. We have good men and women. But we have to look in our own hearts. We have not eradicated racism and discrimination and sexism. Sen. Toomey theres no question that there are bad apples in any walk of life. Any profession has some. Ive seen videos of young black men being shot under circumstances that are very, very disturbing. And ive immediately called for a federal investigation and Holding People accountable for any wrongdoing. But im absolutely convinced that the vast majority of policeman and police women across this commonwealth and our country are not racists. That are trying to do the very best a can to protect us. And the problem with the black lives Matter Movement and Katie Mcginty propagating this is that that phrase it self is meant to impugn the integrity of the place by implying that there the policegrity of by implying that there dont think that black lives do matter. [booiong] in fact, it is my view that all lives matter and i think police get that. [applause] jim ladies and gentlemen, please. Sen. Toomey ill simply finish by observing that i respect and honor the years that Katie Mcgintys father spent on the Philadelphia Police force. But the Philadelphia Police have endorsed me in this campaign, as have every other major Police Organization in the commonwealth. Jim lets talk about obamacare. [applause] come on, guys. Please. Youve been great until now. [laughter] come on. Millions of americans are irate that their premiums and deductibles have gone up under the Affordable Care act. Proponents of obamacare explain that much of the hike in premiums is due to the fact that Insurance Companies can no longer deny americans with preexisting conditions and cannot charge higher rates based on Health Status or gender. My question is do you dispute that . And how do you bring costs down while still ensuring high risk americans who couldnt get insurance before obamacare . Sen. Toomey first of all, thats not what is causing the problem with obamacare. The problem is that it is fundamentally flawed in its design. We were sold in whole bill of goods on that bill from day one. We were told, if you wanted to keep your Insurance Plan come he could keep it. Then you they were systematically for bidding whole categories of Insurance Plans. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. No, you cant. The new Insurance Plans were designed to exclude doctors that people were very satisfied with. Were told the average family would save 2500. It is the exact opposite. Costs have gone through the roof. It is collapsing. 40 of pennsylvanians in the individual market have only one choice. And you cant fix this by tweaking it around the edges because it is based on a fundamentally flawed design, which puts the government in control of something that allah that ought to be determined by mom and dad sitting around the Kitchen Table and not by a federal bureaucracy. Repeal obamacare completely and have a transition people from subsidies, and move into a direction where people and patients control their health care. Ms. Mcginty where has the senator been . Hes been in washington for 18 years. This is obviously a quickly important issue. Critically important issue. Wheres your legislation, senator, to make sure we are bringing down the costs of prescription drugs . Where is your legislation to make sure that people will have full choice in the doctors that theyd get to see . I would take action to i think it is important that people not lose their Health Insurance because of preexisting conditions. I think it is important that we not kick people off of Health Insurance because the have a chronic disease and the hit a cap. We got to bring the cost down and there are things we can do i will do that the senator walked. First and foremost, we have to take on the big pharmaceutical companies. We are the only country in the world where federal law for bids us from negotiating down and pay sometimes 10 times as much for the same drug. The senator is too close to big pharma, big insurance, etc. He will complain, but he has not done anything to fix this urgent problem. Jim lets talk about iran. You have expressed your complete support for the iran deal. Since then, iran has fired four Ballistic Missiles with israel must written on the side of them in hebrew. Missileoon said launches were not constructive nuclear deal. Has any of this ever given you pause that maybe the Iran Nuclear Deal was not a good idea . Ms. Mcginty iran is not a friend of the United States. Thats why it was absolutely unacceptable that iran would be allowed to gain nuclear capability. In my analysis, yes, the agreement on the table was the best way to ensure that iran would not have nuclear capability. However, i have also been very, very clear, that we cannot tolerate any violation of either the nuclear deal itself or other u. N. Resolutions, including with respect to Ballistic Missile tests. And ive been very public on calling the administration for sanctions there. Senator to any missed a 90 of the Key Committee meetings and hearings on this issue, number one. Number two, when he did show up, he voted in directions that make us less safe, voting against closing loopholes in our visa waiver program, voting against loopholes that allow terrorists to buy guns in this country. Sen. Toomey unfortunately, we know Katie Mcginty was dishonest about her family story . She was dishonest lately so i about her as coming down and now she is being dishonest about my record in congress. It was a terrible, terrible failure of judgment to give 150 billion to worlds number one statesponsor of terrorism. As we gather here this evening, the Iranian Parliament has not ratified the agreement. No iranian Government Official has signed that agreement. Theyd dont consider themselves bound by that agreement. The Katie Mcginty thinks this is all fine. Its not fine. Theyre launching Ballistic Missiles precisely designed to carry nuclear war heads. If their intention was to abandon the pursuit of Nuclear Weapons, why would theyd spend millions of dollars developing the ability to deliver Nuclear Weapons . And as i said before, this is part of the very, very disturbing pattern by the administration to essentially grant to this iranian access from afghanistan to the mediterranean, incredibly hostile to the United States. There will have Nuclear Weapons soon. That will likely trigger a Nuclear Arms Race with the sunni arab countries. This was a very bad agreement. [applause] jim a need a response of about 35 to 40 seconds here. Were coming to the end. I watched an interview you did on cnbc where you called for the elimination of all Corporate Taxes. You said lets not tax corporations. Let them compete must aggressively on the global economy. If you had your druthers, would you get rid of the Corporate Income tax . Sen. Toomey no, i wouldnt. That was an artful way to convey message. You can raise taxes on business if you like, but who ends up paying that . Theyll have a pretty impressive the basement. They dont have a Printing Press in the basement. If you raise taxes, it ends up being paid by the customers of those businesses, who by the audits at higher prices. My point is that we should have a simpler tax code. It is terribly unfair. It has corporate welfare that katie likes so that she can reward her preferred companies and industries. Ive been the tip of the spear in the senate turned to end so much of it runs through the tax to end it. So much of it runs through the tax code. Jim you have called for raising the ceiling on income for Social Security taxes. You are also supporting a democratic bill that calls for a. 2 payroll tax increase to support family leave. Arent the an increase on the class taxes . Ms. Mcginty no. I am very clear that i do not support an increase on middleclass taxes. My whole campaign has in about putting forward middleclass tax cuts. Let me accurately describe my proposal with respect to Social Security. I very much disagree with senator toomey who wants to hand Social Security over to wall street. That would be 30 trillion in fees for his friends and wall street. Ive said that millionaires and billionaires should pay their fair share to shore up Social Security. The senator just tried to change history and his own record. He is on his own he is on record saying repeatedly that he would eliminate all Corporate Taxes and support legislation that would cut taxes for millionaires by 300,000. Jim thank you, ms. Mcginty. Sen. Toomey first to go to college and her family, again. Jim that is all the time we have right now for questions and answers. The candidates will each have 90 seconds for closing statements. I think theyve got some things that want to say. By random draw, Katie Mcginty goes first. Ms. Mcginty thanks to you and everybody for joining us and for tuning in. This country was based on a basic idea and bargain. If you work hard, you can get ahead. That was certainly the story in the mcginty family. A total no complaint zone. You pick yourself up by your own bootstraps, all 10 of us kids. But when we were being raised, if you worked hard, you could pursue your dream. Now what i see out there, in every part of this commonwealth, is that people are giving it their all with pride and dignity and trying their best. But those bills are tough to pay. Youve heard some spirited debate here. I will go to bat for working families and for the middle class. Frankly, those of the same families that senator toomey has left behind, for closing on them in a predatory fashion while he made money at his own bank. Trying to take away hardearned Social Security and handing that over to wall street. Refusing to stand up to china when china doesnt play by the rules and takes our manufacturing jobs away. This i know. We have a very Bright Future if we give people the tools to succeed, no handouts. Decent schools, college that is affordable, job training and apprentice ship programs. When we do that, no one can compete with the American Worker. We will compete and win. Im Katie Mcginty. Take you for having here you for having me here tonight. And i ask you for the honor of your vote and support. [applause] sen. Toomey thanks very much. First let me say it has been an extraordinary honor to have the privilege to be the United States senator from pennsylvania for these past six years. Youve heard tonight that there are some substantial differences. If you want someone who will be a rubber stamp or a Hillary Clinton administration, Katie Mcginty and is your candidate. If you want someone who is going to be independent and criticize a president when he is wrong from whatever party, i will be your candidate. Katie and i differ on many security issues. You heard her defend the Iran Nuclear Deal, which im certain is a very, very bad deal for the United States. She has also been a supporter of sanctuary cities, which i think endangers us in our own communities. But probably a stark as anything on economic issues. I have met with families all across this commonwealth. I met with people who wonder why this economy is in working for them. Why is it the some people are doing fine if ar a multimillionaire like katie and the have a lot of Financial Assets . Those assets have gone up in value. But a hardworking family and Delaware County and Cambria County and all across this commonwealth, there have been falling behind. It is because of failed policies in washington. Too much taxes, restraining, doubling of our nation debt and way too much regulation. Is it any wonder we are not getting the prosperity we need . Katie mcginty would double down on all of those failed poli