Host let me introduce our two reporters who will be asking the questions this week. Chris strohm is with bloomberg news, he is a National Security reporter. And Josh Gerstein, politicos chief investigator, working on a lot of these issues. Josh, you are first. Josh gerstein congressman thank you for being here. I wanted to start out by talking about the attack on tunisia on the tourists visiting the museum there. What does that tell us, the fact that about 20 people were killed there, now isil is claiming responsibility. Do you think that they actually are responsible and have we accurately estimated a threat that they pose and how badly they have spread out across the region . Adam schiff it is too early for me to say definitively whether that claim is accurate. But they are an enormous threat, they are perforating more countries around the world. They are pointing their flag, in some cases it is local groups that want to associate with them because they are the hot terrorist group that tracks resources and foreign fighters or domestic fighters. They have real operational control. Then, it is others that may have an affiliation, but the control is not yet established. It is very worrisome, very strategic in the case of tunisia and the attack. Trying to go after the tourism industry, trying to further destabilize the government. Tunisia was already a concern, because you have so many people leaving tunisia to join the fight. This is one of the problems in the spread of isil and that is it is now much easier to join the fight, in their own neighborhood or in other own in their own country. There are a lot of challenges on our hands. Chris strohm congressman what is your idea of the iranian influence in the region and isils activities and also what is your assessment of their ability to reach out and attack the United States, inside the United States . What more should the u. S. Government be doing . Congressman adam schiff let me start with the latter. We are fortunate, always have been with our oceans, but we are fortunate. We have had americans leave to join the fight. It is a fairly countable number, it is not like our European Partners are facing where they have hundreds of people leaving to join the fight. So, it is a manageable number for us to keep track of. Still difficult, something that we worry about all the time. But at this point, i do not think that they have the capacity for any major attack on the nine states. On the United States. We are probably more concerned with people who are self radicalized, going online inspired by isils message. Isil, in contrast to al qaeda, they are not looking necessarily for the spectacular attack. Anyone that they can get to claim the mantle of isil and carry out a low tech attack adds prestige to the organization. In paris, we saw attacks that were not very sophisticated in terms of weaponry, but nonetheless, devastating. I think they would be happy to encourage that kind of thing in the u. S. And that is something that we try to guard against. In the wake of what is happened in europe, we have taken a third, fourth, look at the people who were a concern to us to begin with. Because as we have seen in paris, belgium, and elsewhere, it is often people you know about who are already on your radar screen that you need to be sure that you take another look at. In terms of iran, and their influence in their own region and beyond, i am very concerned about their role in iraq, to the degree to which iraqis a very are very public about it. They have billboards, open supportive statements by the Iraqi Government. The Iraqi Government wants to reclaim their cities and they want to do it sooner rather than later. While a understand that impulse, at the same time, if they go rushing in two places like misoul and they want to substitute real readiness in the form of an Iraqi Armed Forces that has strong sunni complement as well as shia, they may well end up trying to win the battle but lose the war. If you have iranian militias going into sunni towns, and after the battle is won, ethnically cleansing them, hauling people out and shooting them as we have allegations in places like diala, they will drive the sunni tribes further toward isil. That would be a terrible course of events, so i worry about in terms of defeating isil and i worry about the longterm situation in iraq, if iraq becomes a satellite of iran. I think a lot of what is happening turned the expectations on their head that many had before the iraq war when people thought that these are traditional enemies, they have iraqis and persians and they dont speak the same language, they are not part of the same ethnic group. Nonetheless, we can see how dominant iran has become. And that is a grave concern. Host before we leave the isil question, an Interesting Development recently with an Anonymous Hacking Group joining forces with other groups, which is unusual for them to do, and putting a list on twitter of organizations that they say are linked to terrorist recruiting. Pressuring twitter to release these accounts, i am wondering what you think about this and whether you think it is better for us to be able to seat and monitor activity, or force them offline into other places . Congressman adam schiff we are seeing all kinds of alliances growing up on both sides. I think it is very positive that we can try to take isil off of twitter, to the degree that is possible. To the degree that we can interfere with their propaganda and recruitment online, which has been very powerfully used by them, i think it helps push them back. It helps defeat some of their goals of expanding the ranks and radicalizing people here. So i applaud those efforts and i hope they continue. There are times where we will know of a terrorist group or someone using a specific platform or technology where we may not want to shut it down because to do so discloses that we know what they are up to and how they are communicating. I dont think that is the case with isil, particularly where they are using platforms like twitter to recruit people to get out there and make videos. I think it is a mitigated benefit in shutting down. Josh gerstein do you think it is possible to force entities like twitter to shut down, shut these things down, because he talked about recruiting videos. Fox news posted on their website one of the most gruesome videos that isil put out. How do you attack the social media problem without attacking news media decisions about what they should broadcast in terms of news . Congressman adam schiff i dont think that you can force them. I think you have to encourage them to be good actors and, i come from a part of the country that has been involved in a debate for a long time, i represent hollywood, burbank, a lot of the Entertainment Industry and there has been a long struggle over Internet Service providers, tech companies, that may allow their facilities to be used for intellectual property theft. So i am familiar with the challenges, obviously that is a very different issue and environment, but the challenge of getting some of these tech players to do what is in Public Interest without a mandate is a continuing challenge. I am pleased to see twitter taking action and i think we want to encourage that and facilitate that. It is telling that you have isil threatening one of the cofounders of twitter, because they are concerned about this and they would it be if twitter they would not be if twitter wasnt having an impact. I think the goal of the government ought to be to enhance the technology companys ability to do this, to join efforts in that, where we can. But i am not sure that there is a way of compelling it without stepping on First Amendment freedoms. Chris strohm another thing that has been intense with isil is their use of social media and being able to radicalize people online. What Additional Resources or activities do you think the u. S. Government should be doing . I know that you just mentioned that you cant force these Technology Companies to take action, there cant be a mandate on them, but at the same time you mentioned working with them, lawenforcement can work with these companies, in which way . Congressman adam schiff well, these companies, if they have the capability, they could shut down all of isil to medications, iso isils communications, but the challenges, how do we encourage companies to be good for print citizens, to take on these things on their own. To use it reasonable efforts to do that. We cannot ask them to devote all their resources in a way that might occupy a huge amount of their workforce and policing the internet. That is not practical or doable. But within the confines of what is economically feasible for them, i think we can, and it may take help supply member help supplying them information, so that we alert them, these accounts, these users are bad actors. It may be also trying to protect them, because as they take action against some of these bad actors, they may be facing reprisals. It would have to be a public and private partnership. I think that these companies they do not want these organizations using their technologies. Companies dont want their products being advertised on sites that are posting gruesome videos and yet, it does happen. And i think calling attention to it, working with the private sector to make sure that there is a mechanism, technologically for them to find and remove these postings i mean if i were a major American Business and i saw these organizations advertised on a site being used to put up these videos, it would disturb me. So, it will have to be a partnership. I do not think itll be an issue of compulsion. Josh gerstein congressman, can i ask you about another aspect of the fight against isil, which is how will the u. S. Government be setting up for this campaign, it is obviously going to go on. You have been a proponent for revising or coming up with a new authorization for the use of military force to address isil and the evolving threat of al qaeda. We are now at about 14 years after the september 11 attacks you encourage the minister should afford a proposal, they did so, but now it seems that congress has bogged down. What is your assessment if there is any possibility of reaching a consensus on this new proposal . Congressman adam schiff as you point out, the administration did put out a proposal. What they did is, look, it would be nice if they put something forward, but it is our constitutional responsibility to declare war or to decide not to declare war. We are the ones who stand to lose, on whether the imagers and whether the administration acts or not. Now that they have acted and now that they have done what a lot of folks have clamored for, are we going to sit on our hands . There is no excuse anymore. I think what has to happen is the committees of jurisdiction need to take this up. I dont imagine that it would pass in the form that the administration put forth, but if not, they ought to take it up and what form they can get a majority of their members to put it out. I have concerns with the administrations proposal and probably paramount among those is that it does not repeal the old 2001 authorization of we that we passed in the days after september 11. In the absence of that, when the new authority goes out of existence, maybe three years from now, next to ministration , the next administration can go back on reliance on the old one. And they can use the same argument that this president has used. It gives them the authority they need. I hope they will take this up and i am certainly going to do everything i can to encourage colleagues to move for, even if it is a bill that does not have my support. Hopefully, we will see one it can to something i introduced last year. If we establish the precedent here to go to war, without congress and without our approval, it will be up it will be a terrible thing for the future. Future president s will look at this as a way to go ahead without congress and we will have certainly hurt our checks and balances system. Host lets move forward to israel. I wonder about netanyahu and his victory in the elections, how do you think that he and our president cant repair relations can repair relations . Kindest man congressman adam schiff i hope that we can repair the relationship. I am concerned about some of the things that netanyahu said during his campaign, walking away from a two state resolution. If that is more than a campaign pledge, it means there will be a serious breach between the u. S. And israel on policy, in terms of a second state. That, in addition to the Iranian Nuclear issue, he holds out for a very serious disagreement between two allies. I think that we will get cents probably in the near future, was this a pledge that he intends to follow, or something he said in the heat of battle. I will be concerned if that reflects new israeli policy. Chris strohm wanted to ask you about the hacking attacks on mps, sony, target. I know that you are working on legislation, what is the status of the legislation that you are putting together and what will it accomplish . I know it is focused on information sharing, but beyond that, what additional things should the u. S. Government do to help companies that are being attacked . Congressman adam schiff we are very close to having a cyber bill, it could be introduced next week. The senate has already put out a bill. I think that both products will be similar. Good news is, last year we were far apart on key issues and concerns, in the privacy community, that is the need to have a civilian portal be the intake in which a cyber threat information is shared. And the requirement that personal information be stripped out for being shared with the government. On those point, there has been a convergence between house and senate, republicans and democrats. So we are ahead and it gives me confidence that we can move forward on a bill. Hopefully, we have a market as soon as next week and we will be conferencing with the senate and talking together with committees , judiciary and Homeland Security, to make sure that ducks are lined up and we can move forward. We would like to see, when a company is attacked and they find out from us, more than we find out from them, we would like to be able to get that information, so that we can share it with others who could be attacked in the same way. We want to share information with companies saying hey, this attack is coming, this is what you need to do to protect against it. We do not want this to be a surveillance authority, this is not a surveillance program. When you hear, information sharing, it sounds like what kind of information is this . We are not interested and sharing peoples information, we are interested and the methods of attack. We are optimistic about where we are. I think the vast majority of the privacy issues that have been raised have been met and we will still have a product that is effective to counter these attacks. Chris strohm companies are also struggling with what they can do to fight back, how to take offensive action against hackers. What you think about Companies Taking offensive action, or is it the government, they should be doing more . Congressman adam schiff i think it is natural for these companies to want to strike back. If you do not strike back in a sophisticated way, you could end up checking back on parties that had nothing to do with the attack. Some companies could have had their computers used, without even knowing. So, that is not something we want to see Companies Take on themselves. I do think the government has a lot of work to do, and outlining offensive capabilities and strategy, so that we can provide a deterrent to those who are not only stealing or attacking us. That is a technical question, we need to make sure we have capabilities of doing collateral damage, going after these organizations attacking us, but also that we have the right policies in place. What are the redlined going to be and what is the proportion of response in a cyber attack . It might be a cyber equivalent or in something outside the cyber realm. I do not think we can have a cookiecutter approach, because a lot depends on the nature of the attack and attack her. In the case of north korea on sony, for example, we could devastate north korea, if we chose to. We have superior capabilities but we are extremely vulnerable, because even an unsophisticated attack from korea would do a lot more harm. The reason why it is an open question of speculation, to turn the lights out on north korea, is that the lights are out all the time. They are so primitive, they have a lot more to lose than we do. You cannot say the reaction on north korea should be the same as on others. We will have to treat each case on its own, in some cases, there may be economic repercussions or cyber repercussions. Josh gerstein you served on the House Committee of benghazi, which has for better or worse found itself at the heart of the clinton email investigation. She disclosed that she deleted or destroyed something on the order of 32,000 emails that her lawyers determined were private what was your reaction when you heard that and what do you make of the suggestions that some parties have said, someone should be brought in and everything should be handed over . Congressman adam schiff in terms of getting rid of personal emails, i think she has a right. The government has no right to her. Private emails. In terms of whether we should ask for, demand, or subpoena her server, i think we need to treat this like other investigations in the past and not use a different standard because she is a candidate a likely candidate for president. When a similar issue came up in the last administer to when karl rove and other high bush officials were using a committee server to send out work emails we did not demand that the Republican National committee turn over their server. That would have been an overreach. Instead, we worked with them and said these are the documents we need, this is when we need them, satisfy us that you are sending the right documents. We do not need to establish a different standard. The reality is, the way that the system works the employees from the secretary of state on down they make the decision on what is it personal and private. If secretary clinton had used two different blackberries people would have still said how do we know that her pri