Today on capitol hill, the house and the senate will be gaveling in for business. Legislative work in the house starts at 2 00 and six bills will be considered today. The senate comes in at 3 00 and will try to finish up work on a medical Research Bill, that includes funding for Cancer Research initiatives spearheaded by Vice President joe biden. He will be attending and presiding over the senate session. Cspan, where history unfolds daily. 1979, cspan was created as a Public Service by americas Cable Television companies and is brought to you today by your cable or satellite provider. Cnn and Harvards Kennedy school of government hosted a discussion on the 2016 president ial election. Participants included former Trump Campaign manager kellyanne ok,way and robbie mo clintons Campaign Manager. This first aired on cnn. It runs about 40 minutes. War stories from inside the historic and unprecedentedly ugly president ial election. For the first time, just the two of them. Trumps Kellyanne Conway. Kellyanne Everyone Wants to go back in a time machine and make sure this results ability saw coming. Robbie we won the popular vote. Announcer they take us behind the curtain and revealed a strategy. What sealed the deal for trumps historic win . Kellyanne he was able to tap into the frustration of job holders. Robby the fbi director sent to letters with out reason. We would have won without them. This is the most overly gated story in the history of american politics. Kellyanne that incident affected Donald Trumps numbers significantly. Announcer a deep dive with the man and woman running the campaigns. The exclusive state of the union start now. Jake hello, im jake tapper where the state of our union is still quite divided almost one month after donald trump defeated Hillary Clinton. Officials from both campaigns are still raw and emotional, bitter and angry, more offended than introspective. Hillary clinton won the popular vote while donald trump easily surpassed the 270 electoral votes needed to win the presidency. Today, were going to bring you something rarely seen both major president ial Campaign Managers sitting together doing a joint interview, discussing how we got here. A conversation both enlightening and contentious. Trumps Kellyanne Conway and clintons robby mook dedicated their lives to seeing the other party have a terrible night. Behind the scenes of one of the most unprecedented and ugly campaigns in modern history. I know there are a lot of people here wondering what happened . What went wrong . Hillary clinton on the popular vote and one more votes than any white man in history, but this is a race to 270 and she came up short in states like pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. She told donors that she thought the letter from the fbi director james comey was the nail in the coffin for her. Do you agree . Robby we are proud of her margin in the popular vote, but this was about Electoral College votes and we did come up short. We felt very good about where we were going into the last 10 or 20 days in the election. I think it is hard to imagine the kind of impact that letter had. Most of the polling showed a distinct drop and we certainly saw that in our internal numbers. Particularly because the letter did not seem to have much of a purpose. He had some emails. He did not really not know what they were. When you look across those three states, we are talking about 100,000 votes, anything could have made a difference with such small margins. We do think that was an incredibly powerful force in the race. The reality is, we were hoping for a stronger performance and a lot of the data was off in this race. We have to reflect on all of those reasons. What sectors . Robby mook we were expecting to perform better with suburban women and we saw those numbers stronger than we saw on election day and we think that was because of the comey letter. We saw young people go to Third Party Candidates and we think the letter had a lot to do with that as well. There were a number of reasons, but lead among them would be the letter from comey. Jake you say the shift in movement away from Hillary Clinton and some of these Democratic Group started before the letter came out. Kellyanne you see it in the polls we saw internally. Abc news released a poll on sunday that said 50 38. We knew we were not under 40 but everybody had to live with that 12 point poll because people held it up as evidence that the race was over, that there was no way donald trump could win. By friday of that same week, it was a one point race. That was before the comey letter. Secretary clinton herself, the night of the day that letter was released said at her rally that she, it did not matter because americans had already decided what they thought about the emails and it was already baked in the cake and this was the messaging point from her campaign. At the time, they said it was Wishful Thinking and maybe they were not being completely truthful and now it is supposed to be the comey letter. Donald trump turned over 200 counties that went for president obama in 2012 to donald trump in 2016. That is because of messages that connect with people in this area, not because of a letter late in the game. I do think it probably had an effect on some voters, but you want to reach suburban women and the first female running for president as party nominee, why is the message not connecting to them . Jake lets back up to june 2015. Donald trump comes down the escalator at trump tower and announces he is going to run for president. It seems back in the primaries that many people in your Campaign Want to donald trump to be the nominee, that they thought he would be easier to be beat than marco rubio. Is that true and why . Robby i think Many Democrats did believe that. Opinions on that changed as he progressed to the primary and was very successful. Jake you have been critical of the polls, so let me allow you to weigh in on a rare moment of agreement here. Kellyanne i can be critical of the polls, but the polls were wrong for a couple of reasons. Its be very clear that these are mostly public polls. Our polling worked and we had five different polling firms working, including my polling firm. We were using them for internal, strategic positioning, not trying to get clicks or call the race over before it is one way or the other. I think a few things happened. Presuming between the 2012 electorate would be to 2016 electorate, that presumed conclusively that secretary clinton would be able to attract and knit together and keep together the obama coalition. A Critical Mass of voters of color, millennials, and maybe even running up the total among women and shes the first female candidate. She was running a decidedly reach out to women as an antitrump message to the very end. That was a failing. The other failing was in presuming people who voted democratic in the past would do so here, we thought in our modeling that the 2016 electorate had a better chance of mostly resembling the 2014 electorate in these key states and counties, which is my obsession, the counties, then the 2012 election. So i talked publicly early on about the undercover trump voter. The undercover trump voter, this is not somebody who is afraid to say theyre are voting for donald trump. It is someone who just does not look like a trump voter. The Union Household has voted democratic for years. The single mother who couldnt think of voting donald trump. Why would she do that . We took that approach where we were more openminded about who the electorate may be and allowed them to tell us who they were. Robby turnout was not what we wanted it to be in some places and there were different stories across different states. Philadelphia did not turn out the way we liked and other states were not. But the one thing we did see across the country is we did see record hispanic turnout in a number of communities. That was important to our win in nevada and colorado. That is why texas was a lot closer than many anticipated. That wasnt enough for us to win the election, but that is something to be celebrated. That was unprecedented and i hope those voters continue to turnout. Jake coming up, the future of Donald Trumps tweets. Will he maintain control of his account while in the oval office . That is next. Welcome back. Donald trump took the republican primaries by storm using his celebrity and business background to propel him to the top of the polls almost from the start. But it was Controversial Campaign promises that made the headlines. Mr. Trump donald j. Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the United States until our countrys representatives can figure out what the hell is going on. Jake Kellyanne Conway was allied with ted cruz in the primaries but she joined the Trump Campaign as a pollster and by august, he elevated her to Campaign Manager. She and steve ran and seemed to get trump more focused and disciplined. The campaign scaled back some of his most provocative proposals. How important was that to his ultimate victory . I asked her to take us find the scenes. August 17, the same day steve bannon is named campaign ceo, it seems as though you and steve bannon were able to convince donald trump to be more disciplined in a way previous Campaign Managers had not convinced him to do so, had not succeeded stay on message, stick with your teleprompter, not that he only stuck with his teleprompter, but your campaign called them some of the gas gaps, some of the more controversial statements he made, most of them took place disproportionately before you and steve bannon took over. What did you and steve bannon say to him to convince him we will not take over but you need to listen to us in terms of staying on message. Kellyanne i dont really divulge private conversations but i feel confident telling you that i told him, you are running against one of the most joyless president ial candidate in history, it seemed to me. So why dont we not be that way . Why dont we find a way to be the happy warrior . He loved doing the rallies and connecting with people that way. You have to know who your campaign is and its not a substitute for a quality, compelling candidate. In the case of donald trump, he gets his oxygen being out there with the voters. Robby i think what did happen, the very end of the race, there were more undecideds than in a lot of races before and we think because the director of the fbi sent two letters in what was an unprecedented intervention in the election, a total breach of protocol, a lot of those undecideds broke against us, but i dont think that was an inherent problem. I think without those letters, we would have won the election. Kelly and said it was a joyless campaign. We had a lot of fun. Im a joyful guy. Hillary is joyful. We have a lot of fun. Everyone who knows Hillary Clinton says the person you see jake everybody says the person you see on stage is not the person you see behind the scenes. That behind the scenes, shes much warmer and more amusing. Did you struggle to get that person from behind the scenes out to the crowd . Robby there were a lot of headwinds in this race. The first woman to be the nominee. Jake why is her being a woman inhibiting . Robby having worked for a few women candidates, i think they face certain scrutiny that male candidates do not. Sometimes, people talk about the way hillary spoke during a speech. I did not hear them remark about male candidates that way. I think the bigger issue is the russian intelligence, our intelligence agencies confirmed russian intelligence stole emails from our Campaign Chair and selectively leaked them out with the purpose of intervening in the election and helping donald trump. We faced these headwinds the whole way through. That was tough and i think it is it absolutely affected the outcome. Jake you took over when donald trump recast two of his more controversial proposals the ban on muslims entering the country until we figured out what the hell was going on and the Deportation Force to round up 1112 million undocumented immigrants and remove them from the country. He never explicitly repudiated them but the way governor pence talked about them, was that part of the reset for the general election . Kellyanne i think it starts with explaining what you said and putting it in a different policy prescription type of language. When the trump flew down to mexico, he accepted the invitation and secretary clinton did not. People may say they dont like it, but at least they can read it. Then flew to arizona and give a 10 point plan. He has one. It there and he delivered it over 45 or 60 minutes and then im sure its on a website somewhere. In that regard, he explained how he would approach the immigration system if he were to be elected. Robby president elect trump jake president elect trump without question offended many groups during this election, whether mocking a disabled reporter or saying whether a judge could do his job because of his heritage. Did he ever express any regrets about that . We heard from him on Election Night a desire to bring the country together. But that job will be tougher because of some of the things he said before you came on board. Kellyanne i wont divulge private conversations but shortly before i came on board, mr. Trump was in North Carolina and gave a speech. Some people refer to it as the regret speech because he talked about expressed regret for having offended anyone. And he said, particularly with my words. That is a leader, showing humility and inclusiveness and regret, to use his word. But i want to say to you this if you talk about the hispanics alone, donald trump did better among hispanics than did mitt romney or john mccain. He did much better among women. Then almost everybody predicted. You have the first female president ial candidate on the cusp of being the first female president where are the women saying we must have the first female president . Where is the march . I didnt see them on fifth avenue or in washington, d. C. They were volunteering for the campaign. They did not vote for her, though. Jake lets go to a question. Donald trump is known to tweet out falsehoods and other liabilities. Is that something he plans to do after inaugurated . Kellyanne that is going to be up to him and the secret service but i will tell you the president elect looks at his social media accounts, a combined 25 million at this point. He sees it as a Good Platform to convey his messages. I can tell you there are posts he makes that otherwise would not be heard were seen, but hes a unique person who has been following his instinct and judgment from the beginning. Jake one of the points i think we would all be interested in hearing is that in the last week he tweeted there were millions of fraudulent votes. Theres no evidence. I dont doubt there were some, there always are. But the idea that the only reason he did not win the popular vote because of millions of fraudulent votes is not true. When cnn reported that, he them,ted criticizing including a 16yearold boy. I think the question arises in a room full of people who want president elect trump to succeed, who want him to realize a vision where there are more jobs and you achieve so much of what you want to achieve, is that really president ial behavior . Kellyanne that is president ial behavior, yes. He is the president elect. I see where you are going. Are you comparing what bill clinton did with the oval office shall we review for those who were not born then what president clinton did in the oval office . Robby just because a president does something does not make it president ial. Kellyanne the fact is this man is now president of the United States and is tackling very big issues. The ones he campaigned on and the ones he will execute through his first 100 days. I know him very well. Im a trusted advisor. Hes committed to making good on the promises and the plans and hes going to be focused on that. We need to move on and support the president i dont like a lot of things people in leadership do, but they are there. And that should be respected. I mean, i was raised to respect the office of the president and its current occupant no matter who he or she is. Robby i just hope moving forward from this that the campaign is over and i hope the truth doesnt get lost or sacrificed. Jake hillary Clintons Campaign blames the fbi director for her loss but it was the revelations of the email scandal the behindthescenes lit her top advisers. Split her top advisers. We will have more on that, next. Welcome back. Clinton Campaign Officials point to two things they say were out of their control that hurt her campaign. Fbi director comeys investigation into her server and the hacks that exposed by wikileaks private emails of her Campaign Chairman and Campaign Officials at the Democratic National committee. But did clinton or any of her top aides bear any responsibility for any of this . Hillary clintons private email server and we learned that the Campaign Chairman sent you any mail saying did you have any idea the depth of the story. You answered, no, we brought up the existence of emails, but we were told that everything was taken care of. In other emails, it comes every clearly that there was a divide between the new guard, you and some others and the old guard. Im wondering if you feel some of the actions and ac