Senator has messed everything up. Our border is in chaos. Crime is up. The cost of groceries, everything you need to live keeps going up and up. It wasnt like this two years ago. Joe biden took over and in washington, mark kelly backs joe biden every single time. Without thinking twice, without thinking of arizona. Two years ago, mark kelly stood right there and promised to be independent. But he broke that promise. My wife catherine and i threw up right here in arizona. We are raising our three little boys and we are sick of seeing arizona suffer because mark kelly wants to fit in in d. C. It sent me to the u. S. Senate and i will put arizona families first. Thank you. Host thank you very much. Now we turn to mark victor. Mr. Victor live and let live, that is my position on every issue. Live your life however you choose. Let other people do the same thing. My name is mark victor and if you are tired of the same old politics, i am your guy. I am a proud marine corps combat veteran. For the last 28 years, i have been thinking outside the box is a criminal defense attorney. But the most important thing that i have done was found live and let live global peace movement. Weve got to rules. Do not infringe on anybodys freedoms and lets just inspire people to be good humans. The republicans and the democrats together both are responsible for 31 trillion in debt and the highest inflation we have seen in 40 years. Unnecessary wars, a mismanaged pandemic, and a tribalism that is tearing us apart. One of them kisses bidens ring, the other kisses trumps ring. I dont kiss anybodys ring. Unlike my opponents, i am not here to impose my personal views on anyone. I would be honored to tell you about my plan to achieve freedom and peace for everyone. Thank you. Host thank you very much. For our last Opening Statement we hear from mark kelly. Mr. Kelly thank you. Blake and mark, good to meet you both. Growing up, we did not have a lot of money. My parents were cops and they taught me about Public Service. I spent 25 years in the United States navy as a combat pilot. And as an astronaut. Two years ago, you sent me to the United States senate. To cut through the red tape and get things done for arizona. Now, we have more work to do. Families are struggling. Often they cant afford gas or prescription medication. So i worked with republicans to bring manufacturing back to america, to cut costs. When democrats are wrong, like on the border, i called him out on it. Because i am always going to stick up for arizona. Blake masters, my opponent on the other hand, has some beliefs that are just dangerous for arizonans. He celebrated when arizona enacted an abortion ban. And he wants to privatize your Social Security, spending your savings to wall street. So this is an important conversation. Host lets get things started. Senator, we will start with you. Inflation is at a generational high. Could be going higher considering opecs actions this week regarding the crude production. Why are Consumer Prices so high, what have you done to address this issue . Mr. Kelly ted let me start by , saying as a kid, i remember my mom sitting at the kitchen table, all the bills spread out and one of those giant calculators. Trying to figure out what bill is she going to pay. And it was really challenging for her. In that time, she could only put about two dollars of gas in the car at the time. So i know what people are going through. And i know it is hard, that is why i have worked to cut costs. Hey, when the president , when the biden to increase oil and gas production, i told him he was wrong. And when Prescription Drugs are just skyrocketing and seniors cannot afford them, i stood up to big pharma to cut cost. Now my opponent, Blake Masters, the issue we have here is that this issue affects seniors more than anybody else. Seniors that are on a fixed income. And my opponent, you know, he wants to privatize Social Security. He said private accounts sending your earnings to wall street. I met this older gent or an dutch gentleman at harvard not too long ago. He came up to me and he said please do not take away my social s i will protect your Social Security and medicare, my opponent says he wants to cut, and privatize your Social Security, sending your hard earned dollars to wall street. Why are Consumer Prices so high and what would you do about it . Mr. Masters lets be clear, the greatest threat to seniors retirement today is the massive crushing inflation that joe biden and mark kelly caused. And it is their fault, they caused it. Two years ago, inflation was one and a half percent. Now in the greater phoenix metro area we are suffering from literally the worst inflation in the nation at 13 . Joe bidens policies caused this and mark kelly in washington, has supported it every civil time. First, they declared oil on oil declared war on oil and gas. What did they think was going to happen . When you declare war on oil and gas in a country powered by oil and gas do you think that will send the price of energy to the moon . It did. They took it from two dollars to six dollars and now they got five dollars. When you make energy to expensive, everything that you need to live takes energy. You get inflation. The democrats were not done. Then it they decided to print 6 trillion. They print and spent 6 trillion too quickly. The normal person understands. Phd economists dont apparently. Senators dont. But when you print a trillion dollars, that means every dollar in your wallet is worth less and less and sends prices at the supermarket skyrocketing. They caused crushing inflation and are ruining peoples lives. I had parents come up to me at a campaign event. They said we dont eat breakfast anymore, they said we drink coffee. We drink coffee so that we can afford to feed our kids breakfast. This is the Joe Biden Mark kelly economy. I will put a stop to crazy spending. Host mark victor, 90 seconds. Inflation, whats going on . Mr. Victor the people are hurting right now. Inflation hurts the poor the most. Its a tax on every thing. Why is this happening . It has been happening because both the republicans and democrats, their foolish economic policies. Look, dont confuse money with wealth. Theyre not the same thing. Wealth is what is produced and what is consumed. Printing and distributing money does not make us richer. Doubling the money supply does not make us twice as rich. Printing money results in more dollars to buy the same amount of goods and that is what raises prices. Both the republicans and the democrats, both of them have been recklessly printing money. It is not just this administration. It is bush, it is obama, it is trump, it is biden. They have all increased spending. They have all increased the debt. Republicans just had control of everything. They increased spending, they increased the debt. This has been exacerbated, by the way, by forced business closings during covid. These are probably unconstitutional. But they messed up our supply chain and it contracted the number of goods. When you print more money and throw it into the economy and you reduce the supply of goods, what you get is out of control inflation. And no, you cannot just pass more spending and call it the Inflation Reduction Act and think you are going to fix inflation. You know what fixes this . Free markets. That is what raises the standards of living. We need to cut taxes, we need to cut spending. We need to cut regulations. We are stealing from future generations. It is obscene, it is immoral and it needs to stop. Host all right, mark, thank you very much. Mark kelly, 45 seconds now for rebuttal for what you heard. I heard that you caused this. Mr. Kelly two and a half years ago we went through something unprecedented, covid19. Schools had to shut down, businesses shut down. Across arizona we had half a million Small Businesses. You know, sometimes the federal government has to step in to save small business. They have to step in to protect livelihoods. You know, my office, folks that work for me are very active in helping Small Businesses like james cafe, in phoenix they stay open. Or naughtons, in tucson. We have got to get our debt and deficit under control. That is why the Inflation Reduction Act reduces the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars. At the same time i was able to stand up to big pharma. And cut the Prescription Drug cost for seniors. Capping it at 2000 a year. Spread out over the year. This is something my opponent, Blake Masters, had opposed. Seniors are struggling. Social security and Prescription Drugs hits them harder than anybody else. My opponent, Blake Masters, wants to privatize Social Security, sending that money to wall street. Host 45 seconds here. The idea of printing money, you mentioned that. Did we not need money to be printed, considering the covid pandemic that we were dealing with . That is what i am hearing here. Mr. Masters joe biden is spending like a drunken sailor and at every opportunity, mark says yes. He cannot say no to Chuck Schumer or joe biden. At least senator sinema stopped build back better. You were ready to vote for that. That wouldve ruined our economy even worse. I know senator sinema caved on the Inflation Reduction Act and i am mad at her for that, but its interesting that you have to wonder which way shes going to vote. You never have to wonder which way senator kelly is going to vote because any spending bill that biden puts in front of him, he will sign. They got the Inflation Reduction Act and mark kelly was the deciding vote. He hired 87,000 new agents. He voted to send stimulus checks to illegal aliens. He voted to send stimulus checks to violent felons sitting in jail. Is that a good use of taxpayer money . I dont think so. Think about that at the Grocery Store when you cannot by steak or x. Host a response to that. Mr. Kelly thats not true. Host which part . Mr. Kelly a lot of it, but the irs part. We need folks in government to go after big businesses. And the wealthiest americans who try to cheat on their taxes, that have armies of accountants and lawyers. You know, that is the intention. Because if we cannot collect taxes from the wealthiest americans and the largest corporations that are cheating on your taxes, you know who pays . Middleclass americans pay. Host hold on, hold on just a second. You will get a second, hold on. So relax. You know what he is proposing is a system. The little guy has to pay more. Middleclass americans and workingclass americans, we need to make sure that big business, and it is obvious when you look at the background with regards to things like Ethics Reform and corporate pac money, i have never taken a dollar of corporate pac money my entire time in the last campaign and in office. And so i will never be standing up for big businesses. I want to be standing up for arizona. Host i need to stop you right there. Again, response. Mr. Masters the people in arizona know that theyre not just going after billionaires or big business. They will be auditing you, auditing Small Businesses this time next year. Senator kelly voted for 87,000 new irs agents in the Inflation Reduction Act. But to do that, first, he rejected hiring 18,000 more order patrol agents. Mark kelly said no to 18,000 more Border Patrol agents. But yes to 87,000 new irs agents. That shows you what his priorities are. Mark kelly left our southern border wide open, voted for the trillions in spending that caused this massive inflation, and he thinks the fix is 87,000 new irs agents. That is not going to work out. Host i want to get back to you. Mr. Victor thank you, ted. I want to speak up on behalf of the drunken sailor. Because drunken sailors, there is a limit to how much money a drunken sailor can spend. That is not the problem here. The problem here is we do not have sound money anymore in our country. That is the reason these guys are bickering about spending more and more and more money. Because there is no limit to how much our government can continue to print and spend. We need to get back to sound money again, so the government cant continue to have no limits on their credit card. That is the problem with our economy. There are always things to spend more money on. There will be a never ending list. Do we want to get control on our economy, we need to get back to a free market and sound money. Host ok. Mark, go back to the idea of irs agents over border agents. Mr. Kelly well, ive spent a lot of time in our southern border and let me just say it is a mess. It is chaos, it is crisis after crisis. I have worked in washington to bring more Border Patrol agents to the state of arizona. 1 billion for staffing and security and monitoring system. Ms. So this premise that he has taken voting against Border Patrol agents, i have worked hard to make sure that we have the money, so that we have more Border Patrol agents on the ground. And that is what we have today. Host respond, please. Mr. Masters did you or did you not vote to reject 18,000 more Border Patrol agents in the Inflation Reduction Act passage . Host senator . Mr. Kelly there are votes in d. C. That have nothing to do with Border Patrol agents and it might have the title on it and nothing happens. So what i have done is i got 1 billion more for Border Patrol agents, for staffing. You know, for the technical systems to monitor the border. And where they make sense to build more barriers at the southern border. That is my record, which i have been strong on Border Security and i stood up to democrats when they are wrong on this issue. Including, by the way the president. When the president decided he was going to do something dom on umb on this to change the rules, that would create a bigger crisis. I told him he was wrong. So i pushed back on this administration multiple times and ive got more money on the ground to increase Border Patrol staffing, technology, and where it makes sense, to build more barriers. Host it sounds like you are cherry picking here. Mr. Kelly im sure we will talk more about the border, i just want to talk about one question. Mr. Masters have you done everything in your power to secure the southern border . Mr. Kelly i have been focused since day one. I am down there all the time, i was on the phone this week with mary nichols of yuma. The sheriff and talking about what more we need for Border Patrol and immigration. We are working to raise Border Patrol pay by 18 . Ive got legislation to do that. I have been focused on the border since day one. Host ok. Mr. Masters we have a wide open southern border. Host thank you, were done. Lets get someone in who will control our border. Host washington, d. C. Has build on this issue of Border Security for decades. Mr. Kelly washington, d. C. Has failed on this issue for decades. Its been crisis after crisis. Ive been focused on this since day one and ive brought more resources here to the state of arizona to deal with it. Host lets continue to focus on immigration. We will go 90 seconds year. Here. We will start with you. Immigration reform. I hear Border Security mentioned a lot. You had mentioned Border Security. You want to secure the border. How would you know when the border is secure . How do we know when the border is secure . Mr. Masters call me oldfashioned but i think the correct amount of illegal immigration is zero. That is what federal law says, the problem is joe biden and mark kelly are willfully ignoring federal law. They surrendered our southern border, they have given it up to the mexican drug cartels. We had operational control two years ago and now it is just a complete disaster. They incentivize people to break the law. Illegal aliens, when they come here, are supposed to be caught and deported. Back to their own country or some other country that wants them, but joe biden and mark kelly laid out the welcome mat. This is the greatest country in the history of the world. If you invite everybody to come here, you will create a crisis. And so 5 million illegals, literally 5 million have come here in the last 22 months. Joe biden and mark kelly have welcomed them. When these people cross they know not only will they not be deported, but they are given envelopes with cash. Plane tickets, heres a hotel room in scottsdale. We treat these People Better than we treat our own u. S. Military Service Members. I find that shameful. 300,000 come through every month, its a humanitarian disaster. The women and children are raped, the men are indentured servants sold into some kind of slavery. And is not just people, its drugs. Fentanyl is coming through and killing kids. We are losing 2000 arizonans every year to fentanyl, this stuff is poison. Its coming right to the southern border and mark kelly and joe biden have not done a single thing to stop it. It is carnage, and so i think we should secure the border. That means a wall, doubling the size of Border Patrol and it means lets get back to deporting people who try to break into our country. Something mark kelly routinely votes against. Host we will get to mark kelly, but marc victor, as far as immigration is reformed, walls or border agents, what say you . Mr. Victor how long are we going to kee