Section 702 of the foreign Intelligence Surveillance act. Yesterday in the house, 19 republicans join the democrats in blocking speaker johnson from holding a floor vote on the legislation. We would like to get your thoughts on the debate. , kratz, democrats, 202 7488000. 202 7488001 for republicans. Democrats, 202 7488000. Independents, 202 7488002. You can join us in the text, include your first name, city and state at 202 7488003. Go to facebook. Com cspan and put your reaction there, or in a post on x at cspanwj. We will get your thoughts in a minute. Lets begin with the wall street journal reporting the surveillance vote failed in its setback speaker johnson. That is their headline this morning. Lindsay wise reports how speaker johnsons tenuous ramp on the gavel was dealt a blow wednesday after holdup republicans, a done by former president trump, denied passage on controversial spying law. Heres what the former president wrote on his to social website. It was illegally used against me and many others. A spy on my campaign. Speaker johnson spoke to reporters after meeting behind closed doors with rankandfile republicans. He had this to say in reaction to the former president s comments. [video clip] heres the thing fisa, he is not wrong. They abused it. It was built on a false premises. We know the fake russian dossier and all the other things, but these would actually kill the abuses that allowed president Trumps Campaign to be spied on, and their criminal and Civil Penalties for using Opposition Research or for making fisa applications are illegal spying, if someone is involved in that, they could get 10 years of jail time if they commit those abuses again. And there are a number of other reforms and measures. President trump used the intel from this program to kill terrorists, and we have to kill the abuses so that we can do both of those things to continue and that is what the bill does. [end video clip] host mike johnson, speaker of the house, republican, for renewing section 702 of the foreign Intelligence Surveillance act. We would like to get your thoughts. Do you think it should be renewed or do you oppose it, as 19 republicans and all democrats voted against the rule that would have allowed a vote . Democrats, many of them, support renewing the fisa bill, as republicans do, but there are some democrats and republicans who are opposed to renewing it. Washington times lawmakers derailed vote during new fisa. Democrats and republicans who do not trust federal Law Enforcement demand the law include a new warrant requirement for when the fbi searches for american data in the pfizer database. The law allows the government to only target foreigners abroad, but sometimes american data is inadvertently captured when they communicate with a foreign target. The bill, written by intelligence lawmakers, does not include the warrant requirement. Here is congressman thomas matthew, kentucky republican, on the house floor, talking about wanting to include the amendment in this legislation. [video clip] today, we are building on the resolution that would bring forward reauthorization of a program abused for decades, the fisa surveillance program. Before we vote on that program, this resolution that we are voting on now prescribes we will bring forward an amendment to require warrants. If you would like to spy on americans and use this database as a backdoor to look at the privacy, the private information of americans, you would need a warrant if this amendment passes. Some people say, getting a warrant is too hard and it will slow us down. You will put america in danger. I have been in the classified area where they are supposed to tell us the problems with requiring a warrant, they never have. A single example over getting a warrant would be a problem to National Security. In fact, we have a provision that says in exigent circumstances. You can skip that step. You will hear today that, everything is fine, we dont need the amendment. We have got 53 reforms in this package. Heres the problem with them. We rely on the same people that abused the system to enforce those reforms, and they still dont go to the constitutional level that is required in this country. Who doesnt trust us 53 reforms . Congress. The authors of this bill. You know how i know . Because they have put in two exemptions for themselves in this bill. If the fbi is going to use 702 fisa to spy on congressman, they have to tell congress. They even have to get permission from congress that they are spying on if they say it is for the congressmans own good. Why do we have a provision in their that exempts congressman but not all america. Americans deserve protections that are enshrined in the constitution. At the last should pass this house. [end video clip] host that was the republican of kentucky arguing that the renewal of the foreign Intelligence Surveillance act needs an amendment to it. From the new york from the New York Times, democrats and libertarian minded republicans would like to add to requirement that a warrant must be required before declaring content for american communications, under the rule to be voted on wednesday, critics led by jim jordan and the chair of the Judiciary Committee, that they would have a that tends to add it to the bill. National Security Officials argued doing so would cripple the program. Senior lawmakers on the house committee, including congressman mike turner, a republican of ohio, and jim pons of connecticut, a top democrat, have also resisted such changes and are back in the more modest adjustments in this bill. On this idea of adding an amendment requiring a warrant. Fbi director Christopher Wray had this to say, requiring a warrant for u. S. Queries would be a deliberate and shortsighted choice blindness to the threat of a foreign terrorist and u. S. Planning and even executing an attack. The consequences of tying our hands, he wrote, are not, he goes on to say, merely hypothetical. Autumn line, a warrant requirement would be the equivalent of rebuilding the pre9 11 intelligence law. I saw the consequences of that policy choice 22 years ago. I have spoken with families of victims, he writes, about horrific attacks. And now, i can assure human of our adversaries are holding back. Whether to attack us, steal from us, or to print our security or american lives at risk. The argument for and against the reauthorization of the foreign Intelligence Surveillance act. Republicans, dial in, 202 7488001. Democrats, 202 7488000. Independents, 202 7488002. Remember, you can text as with your first name, city and state, 202 7488003. You can post on facebook. Com cspan and on x at cspanwj. We have a democratic caller. Good morning. What do you think about the debate . Caller yes, i disconnected a while ago. Host you are on the air now, caller good. I dont know if im calling on the independent. I did not mean to call on the democrat, but im calling in regard to the way they are getting these warrants. My father was in the vietnam war and the cuban missile crisis, and i have lived here all my life, and i have internet or i could have internet. Im calling you on a landline phone now. I found nine millimeter reels and i would love to share them with people, but i dont even want to turn on a personal computer because im very unsatisfied with the state of our government at this time. I graduated from college in texarkana, arkansas, and i have my bachelors degree. I also have a child with mental disability that spent two years in the county detention center, waiting for Mental Health and hospital facility, in which there are only 30 beds in arkansas. Host dana in arkansas, independent, not trusting the government with this power. Henrietta in florida, republican. Do you agree with the 19 republicans yesterday . Caller i agree voting against it. I was there. I lived in west newark, new jersey, and i voted for this twice. I was on board with giving the alphabet agencies all the power they needed in order to protect us, and with the daily with it and what did they do with it . Despite honest. Despite on political opponents, they spied on whoever the hell they wanted. Some of these alphabet agencies actually looked at their backgrounds, their family background, this is the reason, and god forbid anything happens and Congress Takes us away from them. It is their fault, not anyone elses, not congress, they abused the power we gave them. We are taking it back, and unless they behave themselves, which they havent for the past 22 years, they have lied, obfuscated, they have done everything to enhance their own power and leave us pretty much on the backend of this. Host can i ask, you heard from the speaker, mike johnson, republican, saying that there are 53 reforms in this legislation. Do you trust him . Caller quite frankly, no. Host why not . Caller first of all, he does not know how to negotiate a darn thing. He has come out of meetings, and he is a short stick. He is disgraceful. He goes in meetings with cia and the alphabet agency, and they say, oh my god, the world is going to blow up, we have terrorists, all my god, my god. Too bad. You had power for 22 years, we gave it to you, and what did you do . You abused it. You dont get a Second Chance at abusing. It is just not acceptable. Host and lawmakers did get classified briefing yesterday afternoon from the Intelligence Community, advocating for renewing this fisa section 02 and it was enacted in 2007, the Washington Times says, and at that time, Congress Said it had to be reauthorized every five years, so this debate comes up every time. Yesterday, 19 republicans said, no, you are not going to move forward on a vote on this legislation. That blocked the role that would have allowed the reauthorizing bill to come to the floor, and here are those 19 republicans. All democrats voted, also, against, which they typically do when you are in the minority. Now, republicans are regrouping after the reauthorization of section 702 as divided the party. Michael in pittsburgh, republican. Good morning. Caller thank you for taking my call. It is a great topic. I think it is very important. I think that fisa the wings need to be clipped. Just like henrietta said. And i think it has been shown that the cia and the fbi have abused their authority, in so many cases. And they need to have warrants and judges, and they need to have kind of better safeguards against this abuse. Host listen to this from the intelligence. Gov website, fisa targeting under section 702, all targeting must be conducted pursuant to targeting procedures that are adopted by the attorney general, in consultation with the director, and that must be improved by the foreign Intelligence Surveillance court. The court must find that the procedures meet the requirements in the statute and that they are consistent with the Fourth Amendment. Targeting procedures provide specific criteria for ensuring all three of the targeted requirements are met. Before selection begins, there must be layers of review and approval within every section 702 targeting decisions. Nobody has the authority or ability to initiate section 702 except through this multistep process. Michael, your reaction to that. Caller i trust congressman massey. I believe that he is right, if they find ways around the power that has been given to them by congress, but i think that this patriot act was abused, and every time it came up for approval, it came out stronger. They strengthened, and a judge wrote a book about that when they first came up, and he said this is unconstitutional what theyre doing here, and it is ripe for abuse. Sure enough, that is what happened, and now the fbi and cia is running our government. Instead of elected officials running the fbi, and all of these agencies should be under the purview of the congress and as elected officials that represent us. Instead, they are doing their own thing. Host michael in pittsburgh, republican. Pat, the aquatic, texas, democratic caller. Caller good morning, greta. You are looking wonderful. Host morning. Caller first, i would like to remind you that a man with 91 felonies has said, if you have done nothing wrong, you dont have anything to worry about. The last thing we need is congress overseeing any authority of these investigations by the fbi and so forth three of this is exactly what russia would like. They would like politicians to oversee our government Law Enforcement so they can do whatever they want. Listen to these people. They are brainwashed. They are absolutely rain washed. Host pat, do you see this as a decision of whether or not you trust congress or our Law Enforcement . Caller i trust Law Enforcement. Look at the corruption in congress. Look at it. They do not want to have any oversight by any Law Enforcement. That is what they do not want any of these fisa policies. Host all right, packeds thoughts on renewing section 702 of the foreign Intelligence Surveillance act. In cincinnati, ohio, independent, chester. Caller hey, how are you Customer Host how are you . Host morning. Caller a few things. One, they need to have those warrants because obviously you cannot trust any of them. As far as that one document you read, saying that he saw 9 11 happened because his hands were tied because of warrants and things for you that is not true. They had plenty of intel that 9 11 was going to happen before it happened and refused to act. Host ok, so you are referring to Christopher Wray and what he had to say about the idea of adding an amendment that some republicans are supporting that would require a warrant to get american information. Christopher wray will be on capitol hill today, and he will more than likely be asked and talk about reauthorization of section 702. He is testifying about the president s budget request for his agency, but this is likely brought up along with other issues faced by the agency. Christopher wray testifying at 2 00 p. M. Eastern time today. Watch coverage live on cspan3, on or video mobile app, cspan now, or online at cspan. Org. Tim, fairview, pennsylvania, republican. Caller yeah, i would not vote for the fisa build. Over the past several years, i see american intelligence being targeted more and more domestically than abroad. I just think recently, you just saw in the news where the fbi shows up at some ladys door with guns drawn because she posted things on facebook regarding joe biden, so i just do not trust our intelligence apparatus anymore. And it seems kind of silly to be doing a fisa bill and worried about wiretapping and munication like that when we have a wide open border with thousands a day. Many of them are chinese nationalists coming over the border, and they are worried about tapping somebodys phone call. I mean, there are divisions now of young men coming over the borders, and they are worried about electronic surveillance. I would not buy it. I would not vote for it. Host tim in pennsylvania, weighing in on the debate in washington over whether or not to reauthorize section 702 of the foreign Intelligence Surveillance act. Fisa is what it is called. We would like to get your thoughts. Henry and michigan, democratic caller. Caller good morning. This is classic cognitive dissonance you are hearing. This man who just got off the phone said there are thousands and thousands of foreign nationals pouring over the border who would like to do something to us, but then they dont trust our Intelligence Community to protect us. I would like to clarify something. This is not the congress. The democrats in want this, it is the republicans. They have gone off the deep end, paranoid schizophrenic. We have a 91 count indicted former president , who is going to trial. And that is why they are against this. They fear that because of the insurrection, and i would like everybody to look at the list of those 19 republicans who voted against this, they are all suspected of being a part of the insurrection, higgins, you just go down the list, and you will see all of them are suspected of being part of the trumpet insurrection, so we have to support our Intelligence Community to keep us safe, especially if you are worried about who is coming across the border. It makes no sense. You are saying we have chinese nationalists in this country were going to do us harm, but we do not want the fisa warrants or the Intelligence Community to be empowered to have surveillance. This is crazy. Republicans have gone stark raving mad. Something is wrong with these people, and they need to seek help immediately. Host in 19 republicans tweeted out by our cspans craig kaplan, covering capitol hill, 19 republicans who joined all the democrats in voting to block this reauthorization bill from coming to the floor. The fact that speaker johnson wanted republicans to vote on this and approve it is now another reason why congresswoman Marjorie Taylor greene of georgia is upset with the speaker. You all know, she has a motion to try to vacate the chair. She has not offered it yet. Here she is yesterday talking to reporters. [video clip] it is pretty clear and obvious and whispered that johnson does not have the support of the conference. The letter i sent has been well received, and it was a sickly speaking about it out loud. How he handled the fisa process and funding ukraine is going to tell our entire conference how to handle a motion to vacate. [end video clip] host Marjorie Taylor greene yesterday morning. Later in the day, the rule to bring the reauthorization bill of the fisa section 702 to the floor failed. Alan in tennessee, independent. Your thoughts on the debate. Caller yes, i have got two points. First, this is not accidental. This is a systematic abuse of the system. The fbi has done hundreds of thousands of warrantless searches. Even if you took it to a fisa court, they lied with impunity