Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20140909 : vimarsan

Transcripts For CSPAN Washington Journal 20140909

Americans will have air strikes insurgents in ni iraq. Up to 35 when the Islamic State in june. Ame apparent that question also asked if were ameanable to expanding strikes to insurgents syria. 65 said they were. Army ked about the u. S. Urdish military oh against the insurgents, 68 said they would be in favor of that. To does the president need say to the American Public. Guest they need to make the case. War is bad. War is bad in the moral sense. Nations tely civilized have to resort to it to protect innocent people and protect their own citizens. Convince ent needs to the American People that this is the right thing to do to realistic threat, not the hype, but the real poses and lay s out at least the outline of the action s actions he feels we should take. A big fan of the president stridently delineating what were not going to do. A military standpoint, its nice to keep the enemy off balance. Elling him right up front what were not going to do, x, y, and z, gives an advantage to the bad guys. The president needs to say what hes going to do. Room should leave some for flexibility as the situation goes forward. Buchi is a former military assistant for secretary here for the d next halfhour or so. Taking questions and calls. Up next on georgetown, massachusetts for the line for independents. Good morning. Caller good morning, thanks for having me on. Ive been you know, following our actions here since 2000 when when the face. Is put in youre either with us or with the terrorists. Thats when dry a big question be because that seemed to the most antiamerican thing ive heard as far as who were terrorists. Not go for the root cause of things. To current eact conditions, irrespective of past. Happened in the host whats the root cause here . Root cause of this socalled isis group . Id say its our intervening in the middle east. Went into iraq pretenses. E sold to the American People because right there they were with to send drones nuclear stuff on it and blow us up over here. Scare tactic that happens to kind of get the American People to cowher down were told and listen to authority. Chance to you a respo respond. You recall aeda if attacked us on september 11, 2001, well before anything we in iraq. Isis originated as al qaeda in iraq. They were an affiliate of al qaeda. They did come to iraq because our soldiers were there. A , you know, thats different debate, i think. But the fact that isis is there declared war on the United States now, its a little hard to blame that on us. Think that the watching those two journalists have their eads cut off with a hunting knife on the internet, its not a scare tactic. Who guys are evil people want to do ill to america and to interests and allies world. The its a little hard to characterize their threat as a scare tactic by people in washington. I think if you look at president id , hes not exactly logically aligned with president bush. The fact that he wants to it should, i would hope, give folks a little redibility that this is not a continuation of past policiepol. Host on twitter, a question terminology being thrown around here, specifically the term boots on the ground and what that means. Lease explain why special forces now include in the term boots on the ground guest a point of debate. Some people say no boots on the not d, they think youre going to have any americans touching sand anywhere. Were talking boots on the talking about the large formations of conventional military forces. Division, the rne first marine division. Those kind of conventional type forces. Special Operations Forces are sent to a lot of places under authorities than are conventional military are because of the special capabilities and what they can a fight like this. We question is right do make a distinction between deploying special operations numbers than l formations. D a followup from the same individual on this topic. 1,000 troops on the ground in iraq. Obama says they have none. Dont they count . Advisors and special operations types support people or additional security to assets in civilian iraq, our embassies, and consulates. A no, i mean its distinction that may be a of ington only kind question. But we do make a distinction between deploying big forces to fight actively in combat in these advisor and security folks. Those as boots on the ground. Host indiana is next. Robert is calling on the line democrats. Robert, good morning. Caller good morning. m having difficulty in understanding where your guests expertise lies. It seems to me given that he was of the george bush administration, his department f defense, that his only expertise would be in leading into a disastrous ar and causing so much grief and pain, human suffering, loss of treasury. I dont know how these people i dont know why theyre brought to re us on television explain what we should be doing now. Host if you want to talk about for the viewer, theres some of your background commander of he third Battalion Special forces led deployments in eastern africa, south asia, and including gulf, operation desert thunder in 1998. Saddam n response to husseins threats to violate the nofly zone over iraq and leader 82nd airborne as well as the special forces. Ill let you talk about your if you want. Guest i spent 28 years as a military ce as officer serving the country in a lot of places that were frankly unpleasant and difficult doing the bidding of add minute s administrations of both parties. He military does not swear allegiance to one particular leader and to the constitution. I lived my life that way. Under president bush. I served under secretary rumsfeld and secretary gates and of that time eal not just doing the combat part things like g helping the American People with and s, wild fires, hurricanes. And that sort of thing. Accept that they you dont necessarily take my time was president bush credible because you disagreed with the policies there. Have to tell you that we all tried to do what was wright in that situation, not to the American People to do what was right, facing the threats that we saw there, after to analysis that we applied it. And i think now im trying to give you my honest opinion of we should go forward and strangely, at this point, im kind of agreeing with president obama. Some of the things hes doing. So im not exactly trying to down any sort of path that the president that i assume sir, is is proposing as well. Louisiana asrouge, well. Doc is on the line for independents. And thank d morning cspan. First few calls goes to prove i think we need to bring people need to history and politics before theyre able to vote. Nyway, if you want to stop whats going on over there right ow, just tell the president that we made a mistake. Isis folks are not muslims, theyre actually christians. Would be bombing the hell out of them tomorrow. All sides over there, all of all sorts of military weapons and let them go. Fighting s have been before people got out of caves over there. Host weve heard the frustration before about the that y of fighting in region. What would your response be . Difficult situation. Conflictn flinth in that region for centuries upon centuries. Our world is too interconnected to do that sort of thing. Let them go and deal with whos left. Thats okay. To accept the kind that ocide responses groups that isis and groups like it are perpetrating. Responsible for policing the entire world. We dont have that burden. But we do have a responsibility of nations to y try and do something to help and theres a response there, not just to help the people in the region, but we there. Terests we need to protect those interests. Unfortunately right now, we have Strong Enough that we need to protect it be i force of arms. About the you talk threat posed by u. S. Citizens go overseas and join isis . Guest this is a difficult problem. There , our folks feel are 100, maybe 200 american citizens that have fought or are isis in syria or now in western iraq. There are also potentially up to 2,000 europeans, western uropeans, primarily, some of decent, some blond hair and blue eyes who have passports that dont register fighting in syria. Any of these people, the western citizens or the europeans, could come to the United States, slip through to conduct some sort of terrorist attack. Think theres people lined up at the border trying to sneak in right now. Threat is there. Law enforcement and Homeland Security forces are working overtime to try to identify catch them on d screening as they try to come in to the country think of t do you legislative efforts to strip the be le if theyre able to identified of their u. S. Citizenship. Theres a lesson in that. Theres some legal basis for as theirer them as far citizenship. They at least need to be stopped, questioned, and let our figure out guys to if theyre a threat or not. Its difficult to find them and catch them. Host senator ted cruz, republican of texas to talk about just that, the legislation individuals of the u. S. Citizenship when they introduced a bill to that effect to the floor of the senate. Why i president , thats have today filed legislation, the expatriate terrorist act of 2014. Which would amend the existing governing renunciation of the United States citizenship designate fighting for a or ile Foreign Government Foreign Terrorist Organization as an affirmative renunciation of citizenship. Y fighting for isis, u. S. Citizens have expressed their desire to become citizens of the Islamic State. That cannot and will not peacefully coexist with remaining american citizens. Host senator ted cruz yesterday on the senate floor. Minutes left with steven bucci of the Heritage Foundation. For irector of the Center Foreign and National Security policy taking your calls and comments. Lake city, arizona. Robert waiting on the line for morning, ns, good robert . Caller hello . Host hi, robert. Aller this sounds like a complicated problem with a simple answer. The dy who wears that in air, wears a facemask, blow it up. Air, get it the done hard, fast, get it done now. Wipe them off of the planet. Is the option. The difficulty there, though, is theres a lot of innocent people in with them. So it becomes tough when the bad how to hide. Isis for a while was operating doing what we almost nsider conventional mobile warfare. They started the air strikes. They started blending in back to and villages with the populace. So its pretty tough. Hear you. These are horrendously evil people that need to be addressed and probably need to be addressed with violence. Us first tryto see using Regional Forces helped by ur guys rather than have our people do the whole thing. Host columbus, ohio, pete on the line for republicans. Pete, good morning. Caller good morning, i heard terroristto isis as a group. But i havent heard you mention heir goal is to create an Islamic State and fundamentalist followers of wahabism. That, i ont understand dont know how you can address the problem. This seems to me to be a problem not our egion and problem. Life over is a way of there. Saudis have beheaded 40 plus eople this year for nonviolent crimes. If you dont understand that hat is a group that wants to gove govern, we miss the point entirely. Right. Youre thats one of the reasons that isis is more dangerous than al qaeda was. Al qaeda had this goal that eventually they would have a governing role. Distant saw it as the future. Isis has made that declaration now. Doctors, invited in lawyers, politicians, to help them govern in those areas, at that public statement. But they are they are radical the most extreme to the point where even al qaedas repudiated their tactics against other muslims, beheadings, the crucifixion christian killing children. I mean, these are like seriously bad people. Nd they need to be addressed, not just by the west or by the United States, but by the muslim world. Because they are contrary to as well. Host what do you make of the efforts by the arab league and announcements recently on how to deal with isis. From the Associated Press that the arab league greed on monday to take measures against the Islamic State. Its a resolution issued after arab ight meetings of Foreign Ministers on sunday. That doesnt explicitly back military action against group, but the story notes the a separate statement from a comprehensive one men states to attack the militant group that swaths of iraq and syria. Host interesting they made that declaration. I would like to see it backed up with action with troops and funding of oergss isis. St because to be frank, they are the first targets. The area thatound sis now controls have already y been declared regimes by isis. That means they can be taken out. Treated like infidels, like the west. And isis is coming after them. Muslim countries that the arab league in particular has responsibility to fight this threat. Our line ling in for for independents. Good morning, richard . Caller good morning. To hang up on people when they start telling the truth. I wish you wouldnt hang up on me tell the truth. Host go ahead. Caller 99 of the people who come on the show are republicans. Thats the bottom line is right there. Thats wrong find if you check the archives. Go ahead with your statement. Caller you buy stocks in the market, they send you a letter to join your organization. Thats one thing. Watched a christian channel where theyre selling a on how to cut food stamps, is a cial security, this Nonprofit Group thats got ben cotsan on there, on cartoons all the time. Heyre brainwashing all of the christians. Host all right. Steve, you want to talk about the Heritage Foundation and the senate . The Heritage Foundation is a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization. Fully admit theres more people within an r after who read our stuff than people with ds after their name. We do not have any religious affiliation. But, you know, were conservatives. E believe in conservatives, smaller government, less lives. Ntion, private ot a liberal organization, wereatative. We try to defend them and idea ally logically. Its about policy, not politics. The president does something well. Congratulate him and support him. If he does something poorly, we try to point that out. Same thing to republican legislators. If we get a republi president , well do the same thing to that person. Defend the positions we take and do the best we can. Were open to dialogue and ebate with people who disagree with us. So we maybe well hear from cant learn f we from each other. Host we talked about this a little today, but what do you obama has done well in his dealing with isis so far. That we have ct taken some action. We havent sat back. There are some people on both the political spectrum who say we shouldnt be involved in this at all. Its not our problem. Them handle it. The president recognizes we do have interests in this area. Both friends and our own direct interests. Nd hes taken steps to try to address it. Im not sure hes doing quite enough yet. Says on see what he wednesday night to determine whether the policy goes forward. Has a robust policy that we think is the right one, well champion it. Its if its not what we think it should be, well point deficiencies, but well also applaud the good parts of it. Host charlotte, North Carolina next. Dale on the line for independents. Good morning. Aller good morning, how are you gentlemen . Host good, go ahead. Caller i want to address steven. Let government and the privacy of your lives and when your affects the rest of society, then its held accountable just as government accountable. The next question i want to to ask youn i wanted is affecting hing africanamericans in our communities. Right now, we are considered the isis of america because of by he numbers that were being locked up and how were scrutinized. And were finding that people joining ating and groups like isis because we have ost africanamerican males in isis. A what do you suggest as conservative individual that you party or the republican create a order to balance so we dont lose and ake victims of out of the people and males in our community. Bucci . Mr. Guest i wont attempt to speak for the republican party. As an give you my opinion analyst for heritage. I dont do domestic policy. Security oreign and policy stuff. But as a citizen, we need to reat all of our citizens equally. The differentiation that comes p in some communities is problematic. I think when Law Enforcement line, they should be held to task and should be prosecuted if theyve broken the law. The same with any citizen, they should all be treated equally. That been moving in direction at least in my lifetime. Clearly were not there yet. Keep moving in that direction. Be honest with one another as to where our weak spots are and how we can improve them. And keep moving in that direction. Host clay pool, indiana is next. Haron is on the line for democrats. Good morning. Republicans. Anyway, good morning. I was wondering if a strong conomic preventive could be implemented before september 11, which is rapidly approaching. And that would be to clearly the point that any if theres an attack on the homeland, muslimowned, rabowned businesses would be nationalized . Guest well, the problem you that there are a owned, arabf muslim owned businesses in america who like st regular citizens you and i. I dont think it would have any effect on isis. Muslims live e here in the United States more than they like the nonmuslims in the United States. They consider them apostates and chance. Them gibb the so i would not advocate going after our own citizens in that influence isis. It wouldnt work, number one, not r two, its just consistent with our constitution r our society host bob is on our line for republicans. Bob, good morning. Caller good morning. I was independent. I would say that last year we 12 muslim individuals break into the reservoir, okay . And i dont know what they were doing in there. They with respect charged with anything. In the arly, early morning. And 9 11 is

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