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CSPAN Washington Journal November 30, 2014

Tomorrow will be the first and only debate in the runoff in the Louisiana Senate race between senator Mary Landrieu and bill cassidy. You can watch it live tomorrow beginning at eight eastern time. Early voting is already underway. N ferguson, missouri, the Police Officer who shot and killed 18yearold Michael Brown has resigned this weekend from the department. It is sunday morning, november 30. We are going to focus on the return of congress, Race Relations, and Holiday Shopping, but we want to begin with this question on immigration. For mmigration good or bad the us economy . You can begin dialing. 2025853880 for democrats. 2025853881 for republicans. 2025853882 for independents. The conversation already on our facebook page, or send us a tweet. Good sunday morning to you. The t, lets look at headline this morning on the ren wilson, of dar who says it is my hope that my resignation allows the community to heal. The headline, Darren Wilson resigns from the Ferguson Police department. Some months after the michael ation with brown sparked protests. I am resigning, he said, on my own free will. Im not going to let someone else get hurt because of me. It is his id that hope that his resignation allows the community to heal. Details also Available Online at usatoday. Com. The Washington Post is also writing about the issue of immigration. Based on a new book looking at the diversity challenges facing country, the headline is demographic opportunities and challenges for the gop. Making this point that the rapid growth among hispanics , according to the book, are expected to double in size over the next 40 years. The result of immigration, higher birth rates among minority populations already and more interracial marriages. Second is the declining growth rate in the rapid aging of the population, tthe result lower birth rates among younger white americans and the the baby boom of generation. By the vent sponsored Heritage Foundation they had jobs and the economy. [video clip] it is time for us to stand up. One thing you did not here last raise in american salaries. The steady decline in wages that have occurred in this ountry. You hear the forces out there that say, well, it is just always good for america. Well, that is not what the Economic Experts tell us. Even in hightech industries, wages have not gone up since 2000. In fact, large numbers of people with graduate degrees find jobs. That is a fact. Read the articles documenting it. Comments of jeff sessions. This is from richard on our twitter page saying, immigration is good for the economy. According to the congressional budget office. Page, om our facebook there is this compared to what . And jimmy olsen says, done right, immigration can be good for the country. Is lop leslie, it destructive done lawlessly, estructive. John from sebring, florida. The conversation this morning. Caller i have a couple things here. First, i am saying a dictator sign this executive order. Now are americans are without a country and run by illegal ens. They work under the table. They work on 1099 and they go to mexico and never pay their taxes. They have worked on stolen Social Security numbers i because they stole mine and they are going to destroy our social e and security system. Host john, thank you very much for the call. 2025853880 for democrats. 2025853881 for republicans. 2025853882 for independents. Question were asking is immigration good or bad for the country . Of years ago we covered a hearing, posing this question to the then mayor of york city, michael bloomberg. Specifically on jobs and the economy. [video clip] some people suggest that economy is terrible now host well have more on that shortly. The question we have for you, whether or not you think immigration is good or bad for the country. 2025853880 for democrats. 2025853881 for republicans. 2025853882 for independents. Fortune magazine also writing about this issue. Why obamas immigration plan is for the us economy. First on the independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. The immigration winners are those on wall street. Immigration is a cost, so, you at w, businesspeople know th drive down wage levels, than their profits will rise. And, unfortunately, most of our politicians are in the pocket of wall street. Those are the people they respond to. Are you know, the losers average working people in the United States because they have flooded the market with labor. Any type of a labor shortage, the previous color nailed it, there would be rises wage sector caller nailed it, there would be raises in the wage sector. But they are flat, and that is of high levels of immigration. Host ookay, thank you for the call. The headline that more immigrants entering the labor force and the actions potential increase mobility for immigrants to higher wage jobs will introduce competition. Others think that credit could increase entrepreneurship and spending on higher end goods like homes and cars. Those ships could have positive impacts on the job market and overall economy. The executive action could actually potentially help stop the reverse brain drain. Available iece is from fortune magazine. We will go to chris joining us on the phone on the democrats line. Where you calling from . Chris, good morning. Caller actually, you know a lot of people think that immigration iis all mexicans. They are not mexicans. They come from all over the world. I had a garage sale and a bunch of irish immigrants come in. Bunch of people, hardworking. You have to give them a break. We all need breaks. Everyone in this country needs a break. You can just not say no good for this guy, no good for that day. We have to have a heart. Okay, thank you, chris. Again, our question is immigration and whether or not hink it is good or bad for the economy. Let me just pull this is a new york from the times yesterday on exactly what the president did. Saying obama pushed the fullest extent of his powers. White house aides. Tested the legality of the immigration moves that were put in place here is more from the president. [video clip] one study a few years ago s start at immigrant more than a quarter of the United States businesses in the United States. Another study found that and their children start over 40 of fortune 500 companies. Think of that. A makes sense because being nation of immigrants ggives us this huge entrepreneurial advantage over other nations. To strike willing go to someplace new, build from scratch you have that willing to take risks and being able to build om scratch. R you have that spirit. That is part of what the american spirit is all about. Of what drove us westward across the frontier. Not feeling like what is in front of you is the only thing that is possible, but that ossible. G else is p and because of those businesses started by immigrants, we all benefit. It means more jobs. It means more growth for everybody. Host the president defending his actions, saying that what he did will help the economy. In the Washington Post, a the at one of the claims president has made in that his actions were similar to previous president s. The piece bby the fact checker the Washington Post the impact of obamas action does not appear to be equivalent to steps taken by bush in 1990. The issue is the numbers affected. The white house saying 1. 5 Million People were impacted by the executive action, when in ser to , it was clo 200,000 Illegal Immigrants. That was back more than 20 years ago. U can read this story also online. Ray from o to leavenworth, washington. Good morning, the democrats line. Caller good morning. You have a good show. Make one ust like to comment about can you hear me . Host we sure can, ray. Go ahead. Caller i just want to make one comment about immigrants who come into this country. Everybody seems to have around because what happens is that they come here to work. And the people the people are causing this immigration are the ones that are hiring them. No one ever checks or does any checking on the employers. The employers are the ones that do this. Place where there we grow apples. Millions and millions of pounds of apples here. All the mexicans do all the work. And most of them end up staying here. So, i mean, no one checks the employers. And these employers are living in large mansions, with all the mexicans doing nothing. They dont get anything. They live in shacks. Host thank you very much for the call. Jim has this point on her it depends on the type of immigration. Hightech is good. Low skill, low wages are bad. Nothing approach on immigration, saying that he supports conference of Immigration Reform. The also talks about hightech workers, saying that above all else, we need president ial leadership. The president has thus far been unwilling to provide such leadership, bowing to pressure rom his base. Easingly eated incr the economic bonds. Specifically about those h1v1 visas, which, once again, refers to the socalled brain drain. Again, that from politico. Com. Who is likely to be the next chair of the finance senate committee. Don from myrtle beach, south carolina. The republican line. Caller good morning. The reason im calling is that confuse the issue. The way that you confuse the or ue is that if it is good bad. The question can be separated. Ere is a illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is bad. Legal immigration is good. To the issue by thing saying e one that immigration is is what this such a problem. Because there is a difference and the different has to be explained. Host fairpoint. Don, thank you for the call. Can immigration wwhat can immigration bring to the economy, i should say. The loud ongoing debate often one very important impact for letting more foreigners come and live and he us. N t many researchers believe it is good for the us economy. The us economy can get all get use all the help he can get. Ray, joining is us from massachusetts. The independent line, good morning. Caller good morning. How you doing . Host i am good, thank you. Caller i have parents who came as refugees. And i was born here. Jobs and all these the breaks to moving Corporate Headquarters outside of the United States. So they dont have to pay their fair share of taxes. Know, like cbs aall these other countries moved to other countries so they dont have to pay their fair share. My family, we had 12 kids in our family. You know . My father i worked at the age of 13, you know, to help my family. We all worked, we all supported ourselves. We grow our own food. We didnt take nothing from nobody, you know . The people that built this country was immigrants. You have to remember that. It wasnt the indians were here first, not us. Thank you. Host okay, thank you very much for the call. On our facebook page, there is saying om roger, immigration is good. Saying it viewers depends on the views of those coming to the us. Our next color is rob from midwell, ohio. The democrat line, good morning. Caller good morning. Every time we talk about immigration, we talk about labor. It is a labor problem. What i would like to say do these businesses that are hiring immigrants illegally paying them less than minimum which americans want to which is true i would like to see the president and the problem over to labor. Over the e unions take immigration problem and see what they have to do to make sure that the people went to unions are legal they have to have a drivers license, Social Security number. Then they would have to have a birth certificate. If they would do that, then would help the unions after what Ronald Reagan has done to them and put pressure on the businesses than to legitimately hire people who would be qualified to do the work. Were required hey to hire union labor and there was no place else for them to use mitt romneys idea of personal of sending immigrants themselves to their homelands. Host rob from ohio, thank you very much for the call. This point, it would be interesting to see if any of working with false documentation will come out to get one of those work permits. Focusing on this issue. Myths, ng some of the including this they do not pay taxes. Collectively, t they are paid 6. 6 billion. That is according to the institute on taxation and economic policy. A report on the impact of undocumented immigrants on the local and state governments cited the irs 50 to 65 ing that of undocumented immigrants file pay taxes each year. Michael from brooklyn, new york. Our republican line. Welcome back to the conversation, mike. Caller if if young people come to work if everybody comes to work, americans do not want to do these jobs. They do not want to clean up to ements, they do not want clean in mud. They have given us and theyre back, not giving it properly. The country needs money. Host michael, where are you from, by the way . To the democrats line. Caller everyone speaks of immigrants as if mexicans are ss only want to come acro the border. And i overheard someone dennys on veterans the immigrants come across, and then i think here, in rocky hill, where clinton brought over get them out e to of aaround bosnia and the war over there. And in every think about the ones that fly in. You know . I know it is because of the color of their skin. They do not think about the here, the polish ones from the ukraine. They do not think about those y have nts because the the white skin. And they dont want to help obama because he has the black skin. It is just crazy. The United States needs to get it together before it was all. Hill newspapers say those are unsatisfied they are unsatisfied with the president s decisions this week. Top business groups in washington thing that the undermined ay has any faint hope by going around congress to delay deportation. S, go next to massachusett brian is on the phone. Independent line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I watch this immigration thing that he had an tv yesterday. There were about seven people ne on the stage, and only o person was against it. Else was for it. The audience to ask questions were hispanic. Im sick and tired of you guys doing that. Them eclass workers, let people come here in 80 of the people are illegals. I just got kicked out of the bank two days ago because everybody in there spoke spanish and english. If you dont speak spanish, they wont hire you. Im sick and tired of it. I watched all the debates that when on this year between the congress and the senate. It is all these states that want to push waiting grains. They will sell all the factory jobs in order to do that. Then they hire illegals. I heard a guy talk and cspan kids in school in nebraska are spanish. So we must be supporting families. Im sick and tired of that. My kids cannot get a job host okay, with all these discussions put together by academia and thing stinks here in washington dc. Of efully over the course the program, you youll get a crosssection, as we just showed you a little part the speech by jeff sessions. All weekend, every weekend, book tv focuses on books. Number one this week is 41 by george bush. As we look at the rest of the list, we go to melvin from richmond, virginia. Good morning. Caller good morning. I must agree with what color that spoke earlier. There is a big difference. Cspan, you make this error. There is a big difference between an illegal alien and an immigrant. The problem is there are groups you and other groups tthe problem that we are aiding and abiding people who come here illegally. Now, to the comment about the lady who will win support obama because he is black that is a bunch of nonsense. All must remember, like these other people lets remember this, number one, the immigrants were not the ones burning flags. The ones coming from russia. S coming from one south of the border. And obama giving amnesty to a of the aliens they keep saying that obama does because he is s black, then lets remember that obama has more power to give illegal aliens, but no power to do anything for the black vote. Have a good one. Host by the way, youre at the president who ventured out yesterday and went to politics and prose to purchase a couple books. In fact, 17 in all. Well let you listen in on the exchange between the cashier. Front page of the new york rning, all charges have been dropped. That decision from cairo, in criminal charges against mubarak. The Court Dismissed murder against the former president , for killing protesters demanding an end to his 30 year rule. Charges that once inspired crowds to hang the president and gy from the lamppost captivated the region. If normal legal procedures are mubarak could go free for the First Time Since 2011. From the democrats line. Good morning. Caller hi, steve. First of all, the best of the Holiday Season to you. And to you, too. Me just a youd give bit more time, i would like to cover the issue of immigration. If you are talking immigration, you are talking about people. Not just a word. Are talking about capitalism, you are talking the business of making a profit. We have to k that consider here is a good worker will throw away calendars and clocks because, you know, lets take the medical field. Nothing written in has to hat says someone become ill during a weekday. But on a weekday, dont on dont get sick because hospitals and the medical field tend to do nothing. If you are talking about in a ng an average week restaurant or out on a farm that are where, people good workers dont know that it is sunday or saturday. They just work. To do, i we have is somehow put together reality of c capitalism versus anything else t comes down the pipe like immigration and figure out what to do with it. Host thank you very much for the call. We appreciate it for weighing in on the issue. Our listeners on cspan radio. We are coasttocoast on xm channel 120. Were focusing on immigration and whether it is good or bad for the economy. This magazine focusing on the company of men why is it so hard to prosecute sexual assaults in the military . Ory is what the cover st looks like. Go next to tricia, joining us on the sunday morning from warsaw, indiana. Good morning. Caller good morning. I have a couple comments to and the first comment is that i would like to agree with one of the gentlemen that called and. Difference g betwee

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