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CSPAN Washington Journal April 4, 2016

It is one day before the wisconsin primary. One issue that has come up is the issue of superdelegates. Our question is it unfair . We want you to join in on the conversation. Is the line for republicans and 202 7488002 is the line for democrats. And if you are independent. You can also join the conversation on twitter or facebook. Thank you for being here with us. This is a piece this morning todays New York Times. He says, superdelegates whose votes are not found by the millions of individual voters make up a third of all delegates. That is outrageous. Lets take a look at the delegate total. Right now, Hillary Clinton has 1243 pledged delegates but when you count in the superdelegates, she has 1700 delegates. She needs 2800 to secure the nomination. Bernie sanders has 980 pledged delegates and 31 superdelegates. We will take your calls in a moment on whether you think that superdelegates are unfair. Should point out that republicans do not have superdelegates. Talked about the importance of voting tomorrow. There is Ones Campaign that has created and a normas of excitement and enthusiasm. That is our campaign. ,nd what i am very proud of some of you may agree with me or you may not, but for the Democratic Party to succeed, we need a vibrancy and an energy and a level of grassroots activism that we do not have at this moment. And what that means is we need to bring in millions of young people who have never voted in their lives and i am proud that many of those young people are coming into our family. Host Bernie Sanders. Each is available on our website. Tonight, we are covering ted cruz who will be in milwaukee and almost across the street will be donald trump. You can catch that on the cspan network. Also makes this point. The system is unjust because the notrdelegates are prohibited from declaring their loyalty before voting has ended. At the very least they should be barred from committing before voting is completed in their own states. Good morning. Caller good morning. Of havingdea a violation ofis democracy itself. Democracy means the power of the people, by the people and for the people. How can superdelegates even be mentioned when it is a group of oligarchs . , they vote yourself before the election. To this country because i believe in liberty. Thank you so much. Host another fewer says, superdelegates have no business in the election process. It is unfair enough without them, for is needed now. Linda is a democrat joining us from kentucky. Good morning. Caller yes, my thought is that nie sanders [indiscernible] people are not studying what this man is or what he does. We need to stop him. Foraughter is not paying your Daughters College because my daughter paid for hers. Host are you a supporter for Hillary Clinton or somebody else . Caller of course i am supporting Hillary Clinton. I wasnt even that induced that infused, but the more you read about Bernie Sanders, he wanted to break up the money of the rockefellers and give it to the government. Untilan lived in a hut they pull them out and ran him in vermont. Host she says, takeaway superdelegates, what percent does hillary and bernie has . We did that for you at the top of the program. We broke down the pledged delegates and the superdelegates. You can see how the total continues to increase for Hillary Clinton. This does not take into account the upcoming primaries, including wisconsin tomorrow or in the moment, Bernie Sanders is ahead. Joining us now from massachusetts. Good morning. Caller good morning, thank you for taking my call. I am from the first Congressional District and our representative pledged for Hillary Clinton before we even voted. Essence of thehe editorial this morning from charles lowe, saying that the superdelegates at the very least, should reflect the vote totals in a particular state or Congressional District. Caller i certainly agree with that. I wish they had waited until at least we had voted. Thendly, i wish that delegates would reflect the state. In particular, with our district, Bernie Sanders won by over 5000 votes. It would be nice if he was representing us for him to vote that way. Host thank you for weighing in. One of the editors at Huffington Post covers politics and his piece includes this why dont superdelegates vote to the will of voters . Because that would not make them super. You can read the editorial on Huffington Post. Com. Karen sent this tweet saying that superdelegates are unfair because they reflect the machine and not the voters. Lynn is on the democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning. I am calling from a state that has not had the primary yet. Yet all of the superdelegates have pledged for Hillary Clinton. I am so angry about this that, following the primary, i will realign as an independent. Host who are you supporting in the primary . Caller Bernie Sanders. Host wisconsin is tomorrow and the next primary is new york on april 19. Also, the wyoming caucus takes place between wisconsin and new york. Also in rhode island and pennsylvania. Jim is joining us from washington, good morning. Caller good morning, thank you for cspan. I am retired and i have been watching the caucuses throughout the states and i have watched both the republicans and democrats. In washington, we have an issue with our caucus that we had last week. By ae sanders won landslide, by 72. 9 of the vote and we have a state that has 101 delegates and Bernie Sanders has been awarded 25 of the delegates. Both of our senators and our governor have decided to support Hillary Clinton. I find that very problematic. A lot of us appearing washington do because the has been a media blackout and a lot of us are really upset with the senators and governor right now. Host thank you for weighing in. A couple of tweets robert says, superdelegates are the closest thing to fraud that you can get. Another tweet, superdelegates are unfair because they reflect the party machine. And then there is this saying that superdelegates vote for the liberal elites. Ted cruz, over the weekend was competing in ted in the dakotas. Ted cruzs preferred candidate and he won in north dakota over the weekend, taking 18 of the 25 spots in the state. Another show of organizational strength over donald trump. We are not sure how loyal they will be if the republican nation heads to a contested convention. Those who are leaning towards ted cruz or are opposed to donald trump but the news is bad for donald trump. He needed those delegates to lifting above the threshold for the gop nomination this summer. You can read that online at politico. Com. Doug is joining us from ohio on the democrat line. Good morning. Caller good morning. But i was going to say is that these are parties. The two party system is not a democracy. It is the Upper Echelon of the party that does want to have a big say in this. So if you want it to be more democratic for you, as an individual, to come part of the party. But also, it is unfair to say that just democrats are this way, the republicans are this way. You just read the story about the unbound delegates in north 200 delegatesut for thede are unbound republicans and also, anyone who is dropped out of the race or has suspended the race, those democrats become unbound also. Actually becomes a higher number. Host i understand your point. You are talking about pennsylvania, colorado and north dakota, the unbound delegates. But there is difference. Those delegates were elected. The other democrats the other delegates are not elected. Caller but they are the elite of the party. 1972, thened back in democrats took a shellacking because it happened to be the first election that i voted in and i voted for a democrat back then. The is why they installed superdelegates. And i think the republicans would like superdelegates. Hat could potentially come up when the party meets in july. Thank you for the call from ohio. Another viewer says he democratic machine created the super delegates prevent grassroots from nominating candidates who could not be elected in the general election. We have an essay in the New York Times on the oped page that says, today, we have an thatlishment structure degrades a single establishment vote with thousands of citizen votes. More from the Campaign Coverage over the weekend. Hillary clinton was also in milwaukee, wi. Here is more from that evening. Sen. Sanders i agree with this, we want to help more young people get an affordable education but we have different ideas about how to do that. Under my plan you dont have to borrow a dime for public college. You will be able to refinance debt at a more affordable rate which will save millions of people thousands of dollars. And because my plan will work with state schools to control costs and provide incentives for Greater Public investments in gher education, over time by contrast, my opponent is counting on Governor Walker and the legislature to come up with 300 Million Dollars in new funding for higher education, up front. That is ironic because that is how much Governor Walker wanted to cut last year. He ended up cutting 250 million. So if youre Free College Plan depends on a republican governor like Governor Walker, that will take some major change of heart. I do believe in deathbed conversions. [laughter] so maybe it will come to pass . But i am not counting on that. I want you to get free tuition regardless of what you republican governor has to say about it. Host the portion of the event that we covered is part of the road to the white house coverage. Bernie sanders and Hillary Clinton at the dinner. This is from slate. Com. Clinton,ine hillary im a loyal democrat, hint, hint. Ders thisnders consi the best vessel to bring his message. But some say his aloofness from any particular party is a plus. The subject of Hillary Clinton speech was her fidelity to the Democratic Party. That was from slate. Com this morning. The wall street journal, donald trump faces a challenge. Republicansconsins could be Donald Trumps worst nightmares. Network, a political plus two stage recall election since scott walker became governor five years ago. Donald trump has a fermentable lead in the primary by appealing to people who are infrequent voters, but they are rarities in wisconsin. Especially in the vote rich counties that ring milwaukee and formed the core of the state gop base. We will have reporters joining us. Lets go to wayne and pennsylvania. Wayne, what do you think . Caller i think it is ridiculous. It should be illegal for what theyre doing but who am i to say . I know one thing i want to go back to linda from kentucky. I dont know where she is getting her facts from about Bernie Sanders being a communist. They dont know what theyre talking about. Just because she wants ted cruz in the office or whatever her deal is, we have a right to who we like. So im not going to knock nobody. Host this is from the runningon times, against ebay for a candidate. Donald trump is confident that he will be the republican nominee. We carry all five. From theial we found wisconsin tribune the ruling class of the Democratic Party has reserved 800 democrats 800 delegates. 40 of the votes needed to win the nomination. Roughly 40 million democrats eachvote for the rest, elected delegate represents 25,500 voters. Single moms, union class members, the minorities. The minority class can nullify the vote of all the single moms and blacks and Union Members of wisconsin and not even need a photo id. This morning, they say they have too much. Josephine is joining us from new jersey. Good morning. Caller good morning. Lets begin with your question you pose it in a way to get an answer of anger. Let me put it to you another way. Who has gotten 2. 5 million more votes . Bernie sanders or Hillary Clinton . It is Hillary Clinton. So to use your question, the people who have been given more votes should vote for her. The other question which i ught was interesting, said, you were involved with Bernie Sanders and he said yes. He said, how did you meet him . And he said i invited him to my house as we posed the question, would he run for president . He said he did not want to run. He refused to run. And then he came back for a second time meeting with these people which we had not been privy to. We asked who the people work and he got so tonguetied. But the bottom line is that this group of people told Bernie Sanders, you can run and we will support you but you can only run as a democrat. I hope you dont currently off. The other part, with the wisconsin fundraiser, he was asked, point blank, are you going to raise money for the down ticket . Will you support those candidates . And he said positively no. He said, i have to be interested in raising money for me. Come on, folks. Im a be an independent but im not a fool. If you dont support the down ticket, how do you expect to be seen . Host thank you for the call. Thes take a look at republican delegate totals and again, we have unbound delegates. The gop does not have superdelegates. Right now, donald trump is in the lead at 736. Ted cruz at 463 and john kasich has 143. Ne primary and john kasich made his appearance on abcs this week. You know that under the current fool of the Republican National, you are hoping for a contested convention but under the current fool, you worked even eligible for the nomination because you havent taken the majority of votes. So how do you attend to get that changed . First of all, im not going process. Time on i asked of the best process people. There are no rules governing the next convention. They have not been set. We will see what the rules committee decides to do. But i expect we will be gaining momentum, picking up delegates and heading into the convention. The two strong things i have going for me i beat Hillary Clinton in virtually every poll. And secondly, when they look at the records, the records of job growth and International Foreign policy knowledge and experience, i believe a convention will look at somebody like me and they will believe i will be the nominee. We will have an open convention. This will be so much fun. Kids will spend so much less than focusing on Justin Bieber and the kardashians and the elected president. Host that to your calls. Robert is joining us from new jersey on the line for democrats. We are asking you whether you think superdelegates are unfair. Good morning. Caller good morning, thank you for taking my call. I believe it is fair that both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders they are both able to raise money for the Democratic Party, which Hillary Clinton ended up raising 18 million for her party for her ticket. Whereas Bernie Sanders chose not to raise any money for the party. In doing that, Bernie Sanders and it up getting no support for any democrats. I thought it was an unwise move but now he is complaining about not having support. But that is his fault for not raising money for the party. Democrat, heg as a has had unkind things to say over the years for the Democratic Party. And he chose not to raise money for the party. It is no surprise that he is not going to have any superdelegates. He chose not to do any work for that. So that is where i stand on that. Host robert, thank you. Ein as a drag it is the front page of the New York Times. They point out that the late stage momentum is helping sanders that it could take an unpredictable turn. Mr. Sanders could beat Hillary Clinton in new york on april 19 and it could raise damaging questions about her candidacy and gain more momentum but he would still need to win a landslide in the upcoming primaries, including pennsylvania and california, to overtake her in the total. That is from the front page of the New York Times. On the topoftheline, on the republican line, tom is joining us. Caller how can this even be a question . It is not being rigged by the Democratic Party this is the hypocritical kind of thing that democrats are famous for. They republican they criticize republicans for the money but hiding behind all of this complaining about the money, they are rigging their own nomination. To the guy who said that Bernie Sanders doesnt deserve superdelegates, because he didnt raise money, now you have democrats who want to raise money for them. For the lady who said, he doesnt deserve any because he didnt get the most votes that in that case, why dont we just basically primary on chicago, new york, atlanta and dallas. Leave everybody else out . The democrats scream about something and then, when you get down to the details, they are incoherent. Other people are catching on to this. With the emergence of trump, people are realizing that they ha

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