The National Polls are showing high polls inry terms of character, personality, consistency, clean politics. You never know. I think he is very important. He doesnt quit before california. I think he can help the democrats recover congress. I think that is his role. I dont think his role is to shout her raw for hillary for hillary but he can go around the country getting congressional democratic congress. Host what will he ask for at the convention . Caller he will get a primetime spot but he will ask for a 15 an hour minimum wage, universal health insurance, breaking up the big banks. He is not going to get anything. Once the vanquished goes to the convention, they are really vanquished and they just get in line, shut up, and praise the nominee. But i dont think he is going to do that. He can go all over the country supporting Democratic Candidates for election and he is likely to lend his credibility to hillarys in credibility. Ant so should he launch independent bid . Guest it is too late. Makes sure you have to climb mountains to get on the president ial debates. So he is fighting from within the Democratic Party. Host are you saying that from your experience . Guest i am the recordholder of documenting the twoparty , restricting the choices for the american voter. Own all thehey voters and everybody said shut up and get online but the greatest changes in our country were launched by third parties. The Liberty Party against slavery, labor farmer parties, we should remember that. New ideas and fresh directions for justice were always launched by small parties. What separates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton . She says they are not that different. Guest the thing about hillary is you have her record. As a relative rest militarist. The New York Times is endorsing hillary and still having a page hillary the hawk. She scares obama. She scares some of the generals. War is the first choice and look at the libya attack, which was a violences, chaos and spilling into africa. That was her war. She countered the secretary of defense who was opposed to it. You can topple a dictator. What next . She wasnt ready. Host how do you know she scares president obama. Has criticized him for being soft in syria. She wanted more troops over there. And she is a corporatist. Shes for wall street. If you tabulate wall street people, she is there first choice. Donald trump is too temperamental, too egotistical. They want something that is predictable. I want to show you what she had to say in athens, ohio. That she madeents about Coal Companies, she has been Holding Events to talk miners,nor steelworkers. Honor our got to obligations to minors past and present and stand with the steelworkers. Ths, ionths, for mon have been speaking out against Coal Companies like patriot and shirky that have tried to their responsibilities to workers and retirees. Minors, power plant workers, and Railroad Employees deserve the benefits that they have earned. Your reaction to hearing her speak that way . Guest i think she was right in the coal industry is coming to an end, it has to. It is dirty, harmful, we work to treatment, tens of thousands of miners have left widows and orphans due to dirty, unsafe businesses for the environment, for the waterways. We have got to replace it with solar energy, wind power, solar thermal, efficiency, we know how to do it. More homes are putting solar panels up. It is a job intensive industry. They move into Renewable Energy work, which they can be proud of and dont have to die from. Host what has senator Bernie Sanders done to the Democratic Party in his campaign and to the progressive movement. Guest he has basically shown that you can have a very Progressive Agenda and actually win the nomination, had it not been for closed primaries. He would have won if the independent voters could have voted a few days ago in pennsylvania, connecticut, delaware. These are states he would have won if the independent voters could have voted. He won rhode island because it wasnt them because it was an open primary. Somebody who calls himself a democratic socialist coming up that fast, he started at 3 . What does he do next . What he has to do is lead a civic movement. Rally got to have a big on the mall and he is going to take his agenda and say we want to press all the candidates from national to local to turn this country in the right direction of fair play and sustainable productivity. If he does that, he will be relatively independent. He wont be seen as a toady following clinton if she wins. He has a lot of agonizing decisions to make but he has a and very of support high in the polls. Host are you giving him advice . Guest i just wrote a column that says Bernie Sanders has gone a long way without other peoples advice. He hasnt returned a call in 17 years. It is on the screen. We will show that column there and the new book that is coming out why ralph nader. We will talk about that, breaking through power. Website, youtheir can find more details about the book and the events. Lets go to baltimore go to new york. Caller it is a pleasure having a direct chat with mr. Nader who has been my role model for life. His political activism my question for you is, dont you think that there is no document as closely held to our heart as the constitution happens to be, that it is not sacrosanct. In other words, we have to have a constitutional convention, perhaps once every hundred years. Trying to have an allout process where the populace the constituents, 300 million would participate and then do a referendum, trying to have the documents revised to reflect the realities of the day rather than allowing it to be exploited by the establishment where the majority will be left on the fringes. Host the constitution is out of date in some respects. For example, the Words Corporation and company dont even appear in the constitution. The words Political Parties dont even appear in the constitution. Why allow it to rule us . Good question. Fundamental documents need renewal and expansion. The problem is, do you want to risk a convention in which you may lose some of the bill of rights and it may be retrograde. The is why we are having largest assembly of accomplished advocacy groups covering more areas of concern and reforming our country at Constitution Hall. Why are we having this . Why do we have so many accomplished civil leaders. Because the election process is almost removed from the civil community. Everyn groups that work day, neighborhood, community, nation, they are never asked to participate. They are excluded. They put out reports that affect the candidates. They are ignored. 1300 people were arrested corruptionprotesting of money, hardly got any attention. This is very dangerous for society to basically have a commercialized election that is removed from the civil community. Why we want people to come to Constitution Hall. These are groups that are pushing safe food. Doesnt matter conservative or republican. They are pressing for safe pharmaceuticals. It doesnt matter what political ideology consumers have here. Less pesticides . Fairness in the judicial process . This business of leftright always like this, is a product of divide and rule powerbrokers. Host this is the breaking through power event. Guest it is the greatest immersion. It is not for people with short Attention Spans or people with justice fatigue because it is eight hours a day, the greatest civics experience in anybodys life. If you want students to come, families to come, you will see how these groups actually overcame powerful interests in the democratic process and made life better for people. Removed byhe is virtue of his knowledge and advocacy over 400 pharmaceuticals in the last 40 years that were either ineffective for their purposes or downright dangerous. He did it on a tiny budget. Think lot easier to thats its a lot easier than we think to make change at the basic change in a country comes through civic activities and it spills over into better politics. If we dont have better politics, it is because not enough people are cynically active. Have you invited senator sanders to speak . Guest we cant invite people speaking people running for elected office. I hope cspan will cover it. Host ralph in michigan, you are next. Theer i want to call about system the money and corruption in the political system. More like ag we are plutocracy dominated by the corporations and by the wealthy. Especially with the Citizens United decision that just opens the floodgates for money from the corporations to dominate state, local, and federal positions. Ust dont see how money is it is going to be a huge flood of money into this election and it is going to control the congressional elections, even state elections. The most popular politician of according to the polls, Bernie Sanders, is on your side. He is saying we have got to get rid of big money, super pacs, billionaires trying to buy hasticians, and he demonstrated with millions of people giving him 27 average contributions. He doesnt go to park avenue or Beverly Hills for these fundraisers. This is a person running for a major president ial nomination. Hat ought to give you heart in our Constitution Hall gathering, we will have mark green talking about electoral reform. The American People agree on a lot more than they disagree. Civil liberties, they are against corporate welfare or crony capitalism, criminal justice reform, they dont like to be abused by corporate crime as consumers or workers. So what we need to do is demonstrate that this is got to have a powerful role during the election process. If you look at the sunday news shows, it is all politicians. Some get on three or four shows in one day. Where are the citizen groups . Leadingy johnson is the tax reformists and he has brilliant insights. He cant get on the air because some small news network but he cannot get on the air. He has had bestselling books, he is very accomplished. Johnson. Id cay he has taken on donald trump. You dont see that on the sunday shows. This is unfortunate because the public airwaves belong to the people. Host you can hear the citizens voice right here on washington journal. Carmine in new york. Republican. Mr. Nader, how does a Corporation LikeGeneral Motors knowingly produce a car with the addition ignition switch defect and as a result, people are killed and more are injured, and no one goes to jail. Addiction s the ignition switch defect. The answer is internal coverup. They covered up from reporting it to the proper offices inside gm. They covered it up and didnt report it to the auto safety. Requirement legal you are right. They took their money from a fund that was made up of taxpayer money. There was no prosecution by the district attorney. Part of the trump appeal is that people believe they have been on, sabotaged,p disrespected, and they are lashing out and they see somebody lashing out verbally like donald trump, who apart from his many inaccurate statements and bigotry, they say he is the one. We have to have corporate crime enforcement. There is a corporate crime wave. You can read it in the wall street journal. People feel it everywhere around the country. Prosecute is kept low by the corporate lobbyists on capitol hill. To go after money Dangerous Pharmaceuticals that andkilling people, air Water Pollution enforcing the Drinking Water act like a flint disaster, so it all comes down to citizens mobilizing. If 1 of the citizenry mobilizes in each congressional district, two and a half million people, and have Public Opinion behind them and set up fulltime offices, they could change congress in a matter of months or a year and a half or two years. That is what lincoln said. With public sentiment, you can do anything. Makingur mottos is change is easier than we think. Lets not give up on ourselves. Airbag recall is set to double. Host this is an amazing coverup. Look at the volume of car owners that are terrified. Taking a wonderful safety feature and turning it into a potential explosive hazard. It is a lot of anxiety. This is a Japanese Company operating in the u. S. , europe, and everywhere. The question is, is it going to be criminal prosecution . Not enough to even recall. The question is, how did the too company allow a supplier get millions of defective airbags past them. They are defective because they wanted to use a propellant. Where was the Quality Control people at ford and General Motors . Story. A fascinating montana, bob is waiting there, independent. Caller mr. Nader, i want to say what a big fan i am of you. I am a Bernie Sanders supporter. I will probably be on the internet giving him 27 today. My Bernie Sanders water bottle with honor to work today. Buggingg that has been me for years, i know a lot of democrats and friends of mine gore you caused cost the election in 2000. I like to argue with people that if you look who gore chose as a running mate, mr. Lieberman, who was one of the biggest hawks after 9 11, do you think it really would have changed after 9 11 if gore and lieberman would have been in office . Do you think we still would have went to war . Guest nobody knows but we do know that in 1998, both gore and ainton got through Congress Resolution to topple saddam hussein. George bush used that when he was beating the drums for that criminal war of aggression that has taken over a million of iraqi lives. Trillion. The 3 nobody can say. There was belligerents. The 2000 election, george w. Bush had a smaller military budget then gore was proposing. He was talking against nation building so it is very hard to predict. If people dont get involved in foreign and military paul, barney frank, ron tried to do in the house of isresentatives, the economy going to be subordinated to the militaryindustrial complex. Severe deprivation, crumbling infrastructure while we spend trillions abroad making things worse. Host hector is up in san diego. Democrat. Caller good morning. Your particular call. I thank you for taking my call. It is a real honor speaking with you. Pretty much, i hope and i ieve that the democrats there is a chance that hillary will pick Bernie Sanders as her running mate. Of the passion that the Democratic Party should have so can you speak to the possibility and what the chances ifld be if she does do that they win the election by a landslide . Guest i dont think hillary will do that. Adont know any nominee of major party that will pick someone who is higher in the polls than she is and is trusted more than she is. Most nominees just dont do that. My guess is bernie would not even want it. I do think he wants to go all over the world like joe biden and go on assignments like that. Role in he sees his the senate leaving a mess movement. Mass movement. Host john, youre on the air. Caller thank you cspan for this opportunity. Mr. Nader, i have called in again and am humbled at this opportunity to speak with you. Mr. Nader, have you heard of someone named fuego going around city to city and educating the citizens at the most local of levels to take back and craft legislation at their local level interest the moneyed in their city and state . On the question of hillary and mynie, i did change registration for the primary just so i could vote for bernie. However , if hillary is the democratic nominee for the general election, i will hold my nose and vote for her in spite of the fact that Hillary Clinton has a ability to crafted say whatever she needs to say to whichever audience she is speaking. She is a very well practiced and cunning linguist that can say whatever it takes. You what john said there, look at it as simple as that of indiana, seven in 10 democrats who voted said they would be excited or at least optimistic about either a clinton or sanders presidency. Trump they are afraid of so they tend to huddle together after a wild, but that is not where the action is. The powers that be are still in place in washington and wall street. They have their hopes into both hooks into both parties. The action will be the extent to which they mobilize back home. Fracking in new york was a citizen movement. They beat the corporations. All over the country, you see that. It has to get more visibility. It is a super bowl of civic on may 20 3 20 4, 25 and 26. 23, 24, iit is people learning how change occurs outside the political process. When i came to town, you could not find many politicians favoring consumer protection, much less our safety. They wereew months, passing the auto safety law unanimously. That is because they heard the rumble from the people. The facts got out. The press did a great job. We had congressional hearings. If we combine Public Opinion behind a sufficient amount of fulltime civic advocacy, it is a different country. The politicians will follow. They will take orders. The point, but the preamble of the constitution is we the people, not we the corporation, not we the congress. We the people. That is what constitutional hall is all about. Rg. Akingthroughpower. O host that is based on a new book by mr. Nader. Brian is a republican from massachusetts. Good morning. Goahead, brian. Caller you said it right. Thank you for the opportunity to address mr. Nader. I am wondering whether mr. Nader can comment on the recent passing of Daniel Berrigan and whether mr. Nader ever met him or what he would think of the campaign. Mr. Berrigan was always life and with th