Dial. If you are considering after hardy, call us. Host you can also send us your thoughts on social media. Now, we will be airing the Libertarian Convention live right after washington journal this morning. Cigarette for that. Gary johnson will be on the program on tuesday. Be sure to tune in. Enemy time, lets take a look at this poll that looks at exactly how tight is racist become. It shows a decreasing spread in the polls between Hillary Clinton and donald trump. 46 of registered voters say that they would prefer hillary 43 sayingpared to that they would prefer donald trump. Donald trump pulling ahead hit their since the spring with Hillary Clinton declining in the polls at the same time. In the meantime many people are saying that they would also consider thirdParty Candidate. This survey also shows that the number of people who say that they would consider independent or Third Party Candidates are growing. Americans6, 40 of say that they would consider someone from a third arty compared to just about 40 in april of 2012 and less than 40 in january of 2008. So, definitely a larger number of people looking to consider an outsider there. Lets also take a look at the survey from Morning Consult. It shows that Hillary Clinton has worrying percent of the vote compared to donald trump with 35 of the vote. This poll also shows that gary johnson, the likely libertarian president ial nominee, polling with 10 of the vote there as well. The story and politico asks this question does the Libertarian Party finally have a chance . Here is a little bit from that article. A quote from their national quoted asdirector, saying we are seeing record interest in the party. Membership has spiked. It has gone up 30 in the last few months. We are also seeing recordsetting media the party is host we are taking your phone calls this morning on whether you are can sitter in a thirdParty Candidate in this unprecedented and Historic Campaign cycle. Lets talk to sam, from north pole, arkansas. Considering a thirdParty Candidate. Are you in arkansas or alaska, sam . Caller alaska. To see was so surprised alaska, i wasnt sure i was correct. Go ahead, sam. Caller absolutely. Its 3 00 in the morning here. I was so juiced from watching the Libertarian Party last night, it was fantastic. A lot of truth got put out, especially on the libertarian on the militaryindustrial complex and how dangerous that institution is to our country. I do hope they make the right decision and go with john mcafee or one of the other candidates. I think that gary johnson is not a great representation of the party. Hes a decent man but he does ability to take on the militaryindustrial complex and nsa, like so many other candidates do. That is the most important issue. I hope that all americans can understand that. The survival of our country thends on the seating of militaryindustrial complex. How do you feel about bill weld . Caller hes an infiltrator, not to be trusted. I might consider voting for johnson if you were paid up with peterson or mcafee. Or the doctor. Even darryl that a great job last night. But johnson is a no go. That is sam, calling all the way from alaska. Turning to the phone lines, dave wigle is on the phone. He is a Washington Post political reporter in orlando, florida, covering the Libertarian National convention. David wigle, good morning to you. Thank you so much for joining us. The headline of your story this morning says proving up tough sell to libertarians. We just heard from a caller who said that bill weld is an infiltrator to the party. What is the mood down there . Caller the most passionate and the most readily speaking people of the ones with the party. Theres a radical faction of the Libertarian Party that makes up about one third of the party that believed what he believes. That the party should exist to present something completely different. There is no point to the party if it doesnt. Another sense of it i have heard is that the party is so guaranteed to have a good year that they should nominate somebody hardcore, not someone with more appeal. I dont think its a majority opinion. I think that whats happened is that unlike 2012, when governor johnson chose jim gray, he chose somebody who he thought would expand their credibility and more. Its definitely backfired. They admitted it. Probably not in a way that will end his candidacy, but in a way that hes had to work hard to overcome. Who else is among the nominees for the libertarian nomination . Thatr well, the people get the most support, as venture last night when they had to use their delegate tokens to get people in the debate, Austin Peterson, who is Party Activist. He speaks through the ron paul and kane and bounce through Libertarian Party and fox news. He is not actually the ultimate challenger, because he wants to the rid of what they call the nonaggression principle. The Libertarian Party is on record against initiating force for any reason. He wants the rid of that, radicals do not. Is running an almost kind of philosophical trying to think of a nonpejorative word a campaign that says attitude and philosophical openness. Israelite on policy and very big on how libertarians should be the sort of place that spreads the philosophy of self actualization and individualism. There is darrell parry, the caller mentioned, a libertarian Free State Party activist. Who is absolutely a radical and wants government eliminated in every way that it can be eliminated. I would say that the problem for those guys is that no one has the perfect combination of factors to overcome some like johnson. There are also libertarians a member 2004 . The party did not have someone like johnson. They didnt have a former republican prep coming in promising to expand the base. They went with a activist who had no money or National Appeal and had terrible results. There are still people that we remember that drove out the internal numbers. It is difficult to get a media foothold. Aboutdavid wigle, what the choice of ill wells . How is that playing out amongst the Party Delegates . It has not won over anyone who didnt like gary johnson already. He won the nomination in 2012 on the first alec, close to 70 support. Against the fairly weak field. What has changed this year is tot there are more delegates bring more people to the convention itself. Delegates300 more than last time. Years sinceeen 12 the party didnt nominate a republican to join the party. Just as i was saying that they were people who remember there are people who dont remember that or who have put that aside and come to resent how public former republican politicians come to the party and promise to expand, which they do with dont seem to leave a lasting legacy. Ofre is and also kind johnsonsmpaign about campaign spending. When people consider all bar in 2008, he spent money and went into debt. Johnson has stuck around to build the party, but still has the debt from that campaign. George philly is a Party Activist who has run for president , although not this year, and has been spreading around the reports of how much Money Johnson spends on consultants. , isof what he has raised not atypical for a campaign, but he is trying to put it out there that johnson is an affable and ace guy who is going to run deadend partisan looking campaign. Wells does not help that. One rumor that i hear when i talk to people is that wells is going to raise money for johnson and failed to communicate the partys message, but hes been out of practice. You last ran for office in 2006. Hes gotten better in the few areas ive seen in the hallways, but hes kind of patrician and not terribly up to speed a libertarian dogma. If i had to boil it down, jeb bush when running for president invented a very kind of phrase,ally eloquent that he was willing to lose the primary to win the general election. Be more centrist than the party electorate. Thats kind of a johnson and wells are doing. This sounds a get tough road even amongst libertarians themselves. How much of an influence do you think the candidacy, if they are nominated, will have on the general election . Caller they are at the moment polling around 10 . Far better than theyve ever done before. One question is whether voters that dont like Hillary Clinton and donald trump, because most just hear about the Libertarian Party, poke around and find they are good enough there is this assumption that voters that aret like the two parties natural libertarians. I think i will be tested. Before the moment one thing that is helping them is that when asked about the twoParty Candidates who want to go for someone else, johnson and wells seemed like the people most interested in reaching out to them. Again, unless you already believe what they believe, its easy to imagine the country glomming onto to former governors who seem to have the right level of experience. That was a fun last day. John mcafee specifically argued the party couldnt win the white house, so they should have someone were alec around their principles. Who were more eloquent around the rents. Peterson was angry around winning, trump supporting people like rand paul. Johnson strategy is more and it has caused skepticism just because people feel like well, on the one hand there is an opening for them. Thehe other do they exploit opening by going for something familiar or Something Different . Was dave right, that wigle from the Washington Post. Stakes for taking time out of your day to join us. Caller i appreciate it. Thank you. Host cspan will be covering the Libertarian Convention live and have the likely nominee, gary johnson, on tuesday morning. Jamessgton journal calling. Good morning, james. Caller how are you this morning . Host good. Caller happy memorial day. Host what is your thought . Voting for Hillary Clinton. Shes had the most experience, has been around all of this, secretary of state, senator and ill let. I encourage everybody who is to throw their support behind hillary. We cannot allow this hotheaded crazy man, donald trump, to be the president of the United States. He will wind up getting us in some pet of war or something or other. The people out there thinking about a third party, they need to go ahead and get behind hillary. All the democrats that havent been voting, i urge you to get registered and get her elected president. Shes going to be the best that. I hope that hillary picks was that the that hillary picks Elizabeth Warren as a running mate. Host go ahead, you are on the air. Caller yes. I am looking at someone different. An outsider, like johnson. Looking forward to the convention. I mean, i have talked about hillary who, you know, just look at her record. Look at sanders and look at trump. Three bad choices. Where are the women libertarians . I havent seen one come out. So, i am considering johnson. You know, and also i think he has like around 20 support . To be on aneed 30 general election ballot for president . Randy, did you consider yourself libertarian before this Campaign Season . Caller independent. Host ok. Thats randy from clearwater, florida. Gary johnson, the likely nominee for the libertarian residential pick, he released this video entitled make american sane again. As governor [video clip] as governor i was labeled the most dangerous politician in america. Government is too big. It tries to do too much and it spends too much. 20 trillion in debt and rising is unsustainable. Money is freedom. Its the ability to do what i want, when i want. When government takes away my money, they are taking away my freedom. My ability to spend my money the way i want to spend my money. Government is for sale. Crony capitalism is alive and well. Democrats and republicans are both responsible for this unsustainable debt. Im planning to ride the divide. The Libertarian Party will be on the ballot in all 50 states. I applaud all of you for your activism. All ofe a difference in our lives. A difference in your communities. To you for guidance. Im running for president of the United States. I am a fierce competitor. Im a fierce defender of Civil Liberties. I advocate balancing the federal budget now. I heard from many that they didnt want to waste their vote. Wasting your vote is voting for somebody that you dont believe in. I think that people need to be able to make their own choices in their own lives. The reward will be 100 fold. You will never read it. Take whatever it is that you know and apply at y. Trepreneurial its amazing when you share in the profit how the pie gets so much bigger. Host we are taking your phone calls this morning and whether you are considering if a whether candidate you are considering a thirdParty Candidate. Veryone else, you can call tommy, go ahead, good morning. Tommy i have voted libertarian for a long time. When ron paul was running in 1988, i voted for him and nancy lord on the libertarian ticket. To fourringing in close dollar trillion 4 trillion in revenue. I live on a fixed income and i have managed to stay within budget. Can do it, than i know that these brainiacs in d. C. Can do the same thing. Women whoe need is know how to manage money. Who will take the libertarian cause and promulgated to a efficient system of government. Host how do you feel about gary johnson . Hes all right. His vp choice is the granddaughter of his vp choice is married to the granddaughter of teddy roosevelt. In my opinion, he was the greatest president this country has ever had. The Gary Johnson WilliamWeld Administration will get this country fiscally under control. It wont wipe out the debt that it will get it under control to the point where we can see a Bright Future for grandchildren and greatgrandchildren. Right tommy, we hear your opinion this morning. Our next caller is phyllis. Phyllis, you say you are set on the thirdParty Candidate . Caller good morning, good morning, thank you. Yes, i am considering a third party. I support Bernie Sanders, but if he doesnt become the nominee for the democrats i am can sitter in the green party. With jill stein as president. Consider uld you would you consider writing in yes, iandidates . Caller am considering that as well. I want to see the next few weeks play out to see how the support for sanders continues or dissipates, but hopefully it continues. , i am he doesnt make it considering jill stein and the green party. That is phyllis, from florida. Yes,er person writes jill stein is the perfect candidate. Our Foreign Policy should be based on human rights. Another person right not considering a thirdParty Candidate, but its time for the Republican Party to break three ways based on libertarian, fiscal, evangelical, and Foreign Policy platforms. Veryer person tweets few women in the audience of the libertarian debate. They dont have a future. And yes feel the burn, write him in bernie or bust. Tony is up next from boston, massachusetts. What do you think . Caller happy memorial day, everybody. Ive been in this country for a long time. Dont let it full you, all these people who are card who are calling about these different parties. We are good with two parties here. The best in the United States. We dont need a third party. We need donald trump in my own personal opinion. I have been in this country for 50 years. America,e, wake up, donald trump can stretch out this country. President ry, after john kennedy, we know have a president. Hillary clinton, in my own personal opinion, shes a liar. You this morning. Next up is ron, from hammond, indiana. Go ahead, ron. Caller yes, thank you. People who are thinking about the thirdparty, this is supposed to be the land of the free and the opportunity for those who seek the best to get the best. We are at a point in time where we are free and going down. How can you vote for a person like donald trump, with no political person at all . He will be president of the united takes . Think this over. Host which party are you considering . Caller you looking at . Anyone who is going to help us as a people and quit playing politics. Ron. All right, that was heres a little bit this morning from the Washington Post. Is proving a tough sell for libertarians. A five fold increase, camera for camera crews have followed bill been hit with a scornful heckling by the radicals who represent one third of the party. Libertarians hold no Party Primaries host we are taking her phone calls this morning. Are you considering a third arty candidate . We are taking her thoughts on social media and we are taking our calls. Turning now to philadelphia, pennsylvania. John is calling on the line for all others. You are not considering a thirdParty Candidate . Caller no. Thank you for having me. Good morning. The 21st president and backwards, there were multiple parties within one candidate. Lets just say the candidate would be republican, democrat, party, all ofriot it wrapped into one candidate. After that we broke into the republican and democrat system. What we need