The time. Situation. Win people should also think about the growth of the population in the world. People are on the move. Host we which are you with the mayor had what the mayor had to say about the building of this wall. Coming up, we will talk to Brandon Darby, managing director and editor for Breitbart Texas. To talk about the legal and ilLegal Immigration along the border. Later, we will talk to a local immigration lawyer about what the law says on citizenship and deportation. But first, during our visit in april, we spoke with the mayor and asked him about Donald Trumps proposal to build a wall along the u. S. Mexican border and what impact that would have on his community. [video clip] horrible. We could not accept the wall. Just looking at this matter from a mayor standpoint, it is devastating. It would do away with laredo, texas. We are the number one land force in the western hemisphere. Ways ofother dealing with the situation. A wall would be heavily intrusive and offensive to the people who do business with mexico. Granted, the immigration issue is huge and has to be dealt mexicout instead of in the next few years is going to be a very strong economic power. If we had a government as unstable as other governments in the middle east, you would see the Mass Movement of people. They are our neighbor. We have to deal with them and be patient. Things will work out. Host it would do away with laredo . Overcoming us. Oh, yes. The border area as a region, theres over 6 million jobs created by border trade and commerce. If we put a wall and get tougher with mexico, more jobs will go to the u. S. , that remains to be seen. ,t would be too dramatic hurting trade and commerce, especially in the border area. I know for a fact that it would hurt us tremendously. Back in april was able to visit the border town of laredo, texas. U. S. Customs and Border Protection took us up in one of the helicopters they used to patrol the border. Bridge oneen is where mexican and american commuters go back and forth every day on an hourly basis. We are live from that location. Brandon darby is joining us. Cross ateople need to the border right there legally everyday . Guest one thing that is very interesting, 40 seconds before i toe on, we are standing next the cbp line where people come in legally and have their documents checked and three men ran andhe turnstile and those guys are now gone. Whether they were carrying drugs for the cartel which is headquartered immediately behind us in the city of nuevo laredo or not, we dont know. Three men just jumped the turnstile and ran. Assume there are legal avenues for people from mexico to come into the u. S. Though there are legal avenues, they are very difficult for the actual workers to get legal permission to come into the u. S. The people who are able to come are those able to show they have wealth and resources and they will not stay. Coming for the day to shop or work. Worker,age agricultural it is difficult for them to come in legally. Host why is that . Is the crux of the problem. It goes back into the 1930s and 1940s, really. We have a system that encourages people to come here illegally. Oftentimes left of Center People helpinge they are people from mexico or Central America by allowing our system to exist as it exists and a lot of right of Center People, the funders of different republican are builders who have Business Models based upon the exploitation of foreign labor. They dont want to pay were have the same Worker Protections extended to folks. We end up encouraging a system that when people talk about as if it the border is this one monolithic thing or entity, it is not. There are different criminal groups who control different sections of the usmexico border. And control different sections of mexico. The first three sections of sector,he rio grande the laredo sector and the del rio sector, those are controlled by two groups that are the most brutal. Past that come of the groups are not as brutal to average people as these two groups are. These two groups routinely make more money from ilLegal Immigration than they do from narcotics. Our system fuels that. People think they are helping the people from mexico by allowing people to come across a list of the, but they are not. Illicitly, but they are not. Host talk more about this immigration that is fueled by our policy and the cartels making money off of this. How is this illegal crossing happening . And is itt happening mostly mexican citizens . Depends on which specific location and it changes routinely. Have ishe problems we that customs and Border Protection, the management of customs and Border Protection are politically appointed and tend to not be as forthcoming with the public as they should be. Here in laredo, when Breitbart Texas comes to the border and we bring politicians to the border, we do so unannounced. Came tor, jorge ramos the border and he announced two weeks ahead of time. We came the weekend before and we filmed the entire area south of us. We filled the entire area where the leaders always take the media. There were no lights, no physical barriers of any kind, one Border Patrol agent. , there wereday agents on atvs, a helicopter, two boats in the river, they pulled agents off of other areas and put them in this one area and jorge ramos came and told securities lookout look how secure it is. Agents, to the actual you get into the importance of talking to them about what they are experiencing and not just the political appointees. Host Brandon Darby our guest here this morning. Lets get to our first call. Alabama. Good morning to you. Caller i was really interested in darby telling the truth about whats happening. I am a democrat, but i just have to go with trump because something needs to be done. If the people of mexico stuck together and change their i worked at mills and a lot of them moved to mexico. If people stood up there the same benefits we have demanding the same benefits we have guest one of the approaches we take at breitbart, we have a program called cartel chronicles. The Mexican Border states, theres absolutely strict aol from the cartel ioate below the del r sector, the last governor is in trouble for helping the cartel. The last two governors are fugitives from u. S. Justice for being surrogates of the gulf cartel. This is a very big problem. The corruption in mexico is a big problem. Most of the politicians in these areific border states surrogates or have been surrogates of the criminal organizations that control those regions. They have people who work in all the Media Outlets and tell cannotwhat they can and write about, what politicians to write about, which crimes they can write about. We try to find those people who want to speak out and tell the truth but would have their families murdered and throats whites killed and brutalized and children murdered and kidnapped, we find those people and allow them to write publishpseudonym and we those words in english and spanish. How can they possibly stand up when it comes to talk about revolutionary terms, the people of mexico cannot own firearms. The only people with firearms are the military and police who are oftentimes working for the and the cartels have firearms. The people dont have much of an option when it comes to standing up. Clearlyg we could do, the federation that controls a notof the border would follow the gulf cartels have crossed that line. Thats what we ultimately did in columbia in 1997, we declared the drugrunning organizations as foreign terrorist organizations. That allowed us to go after everyone who took their money, the banks who launder their money, the politicians who work with them. On one hand, we have a verylican candidate who is willing to offend the corrupt. Oliticians in mexico unfortunately, he has offended most of the people in mexico. The other hand, you have a party who has not shown a willingness to offend the corrupt politicians in mexico. It is very tricky, the situation we are in right now. Inn you speak with people the fbi, they will tell you, the state department constantly. Ressures the fbi thats where you get into trade. Complex issue and requires a complex resolution, much more than just a physical barrier. Theres a lot of things we could not only thenimize problems we are facing, but the problems people in northern mexico are facing. If you are a politician in mexico and you do not go along with the cartels, what happens . Guest you die. That simple. You get killed. If you are in mexico city, you are ok. If you are in one of the states bordering texas, you will get murdered and you will die. There is a governor, his brother was the one who worked for the etas, he was a fugitive and was arrested in spain. His son was killed. The next governor comes in and he has done a lot to fight the cartel, but the same amount of narcotics and same amount of Human Trafficking and smuggling is still occurring. So, another cartel has fill that vacuum. It is a very tricky situation for politicians in mexico. We try to offer them as much support as possible. Jorge ramos wins all kinds of awards and says he is an immigrants. We are an advocate for the people who are trying to fight back in mexico and we have no shame in that game at all. Host gary in ohio. Good morning to you. Caller my question or comment is mainly see, everything is money. You will not see it on this program or any news program or newspaper. You can check pew, Heritage Foundation let people know how many people in this country almost one Million People , they will not give you the cost of illegals to the u. S. , they will not give you the immigrants or the cost of comprehensive immigration. Our politicians and news media have no guts. . Ost Brandon Darby guest i will tell you, there who aret of people actually antiimmigration. Im not that at all. Founder saidions he is with all the people who want to come here and work legally. Im that guy. When it comes to the cost of actual immigration or the crime rate in immigrant communities, this is when things get very tricky. In comments that donald trump the bat and his campaign about people coming from mexico illegally, when he was interviewed by anderson cooper, they went from talking about ilLegal Immigration and started to use a stats from legal immigrants, 25 of that number. You cannot have a discussion with anyone about ilLegal Immigration without them skewing the facts by bringing in the numbers from all immigrants. Those are people coming in who are able to follow years of protocol to get here. Know anecdotally that most people who come here legally are coming here to work hard. But i also know that in the ,hree years we reported on this i supported over 7000 previously convicted sex offenders from the state of texas alone we know that there are problems with crime. We dont know who comes across that border when you come to the border, most politicians go to el paso and helped the low crime rate in el paso. El paso actually has a wall, that most of the state of texas does not. We have roughly 100 miles with actual wall or some kind of physical barrier and the rest is not. We dont know who comes across. I dont really get into that. Im interested in challenging this criminal groups who those criminal groups who operate in this country come im interested in challenging them and drawing up their funding so that mexico can actually develop day, we cannot a symbiotic economy like we have with canada. Where people in mexico do not feel the need to come here to feed their families because we are doing something as a nation to address the criminal groups and corruption that controls their country. To find any information on that because the groups who compile the information always include 75 more people from these legal immigrant communities host . Were talking with Brandon Darby , managing editor of Breitbart Texas. ,vette capturing earlier today Brandon Darby talking about three men jumping the turnstile there and running into the city of laredo. U. S. Customs and Border Protection agents running after them. One at bridge one this morning. , another issue brandon darb that has come up, unaccompanied minors coming from Central America. You had a story in june of 2014 with pictures that were leaked to you of the children and where they were detained. I want to have you react to what u. S. Customs and Border Protection told us about these unaccompanied minors that started coming back in 2012. [video clip] washat we saw on the ground people looking for a better life. Officers taking it too hard heart because the ports of detention are designed longterm detention. How old were these children . Toanywhere from three months 17 years of age. When they arrive at the border, what do they tell you . They wanted to be reunited with her family members already in the u. S. Their family members already in the u. S. Or escape the gang violence. Happen . Would then that shouldd get they would make arrangements to send them to a shelter. They think that there was no adult with them. Is that always the case . That is not always the case. Smuggler, aly had a guide taking them to the port of entry. It could be a parent. Either way. Teenagers, they might make the journey by themselves. This a discussion earlier year in april with u. S. Customs and Border Protection right at bridge twof entry at. You covered this story as well for Breitbart Texas. That what i would say is one of the things we did at that how we access to the 43 photos we published, that story has been reported a couple of ames, and increased increase inn minors crossing the border, it did not take hold. It was the images, seeing the faces of those minors and children that had an effect. It was not only the lead story on breitbart, but also the lead story on the huffington post. It crossedide that divide between the left and right. When we published that story, telemundo station and they told them that the photos were made up, they were fake photos. Cbp finally admitted they were actually the real photos of the stations inl nine the Rio Grande Valley sector. It has been a tricky thing to get information from cbp. We are not talking about the officers chasing those guys through laredo right now. We are not talking about the Border Patrol agents also under cbp but we are talking about the politically appointed management , the ones who have historically been less than forthcoming with the american public. There are push factors and pull factors. In many partsthat of mexico and Central America, it can be very horrible to live there. There are circumstances there that are atrocious. Those are called push factors. Our policies create pull factors. More we accept and open up to people coming illegally and we do reward that, the more we do that, the more people actually come. Res a number of problems lets go to a place where a lot of the people who call in on the , theratic line humanitarian consequences of that open border and is creating pull factors. Lets talk about the average young woman from Central America who comes to the u. S. Illegally. Her parents generally will put becauseirth control theres the expectation of multiple sexual assaults or journey ar group shuffles them across mexico in a series of stash houses. They are put in a stash house in high laredo, instance of scabies and commutable diseases. If they are attractive, generally, they find themselves in a spot where they are sexually abused and assaulted. Once they are brought across the river, they are put in another stash house in mcallen and usually, they are sexually assaulted again. They are taking in a car, let out several miles and went of or before a second border checkpoint. Outcome of may to march for three or four days, usually sexually assaulted again , and there was a phenomenon called rape trees. Take an article of clothing off the women and tied them tightly to a tree. Local stations have reported on that and npr has talked about it, so it is actually happening. That thelife journey that people make, so i would contend that anything that encourages that journey, that creates more factor more pull factor is unfair to people. It is a dark stain, and something historically we will look that gone, our Current System, and we will be ashamed of it as a nation. Host lets get some numbers behind what you are talking about. The usmexico Border Apprehensions in the first six this notesach year, the surge in every pensions of children. 10 in south carolina, thank you in southng ken carolina, thank you for waiting. It is not the 1600, america is not growing like that. The Unemployment Rate is way her, do not cut me off, all the naacp, the hundred immigration is hurting the working poor blacks and the working poor whites. You have people calling all over the United States saying they cannot get to work. Friends that did roofing and contracting and made decent money. They pay taxes, they took their families to the beach, and now they are being undercut. Host we hear your point. I think i understood the callers point. Thati would say to that is it is a difficult situation for some industries. The former agricultural commissioner of texas put out a he said, andis and i think he is correct, that if you took the entire number of Agricultural Workers who were needed in the United States and were legally allowed to come into the Uni