And principals in those schools. You have not trained them, and you are holding them responsible. Accountability alone, zero. This is not about motivation. That is what is so insulting. Theyre just not motivated, lets pay them more. Zero. Lets hold them responsible or penalize them. Zero effect on student achievement. You have to give them knowledge and train them before you hold them responsible. They circlewhy did the wagons over here, they are being unfairly held accountable. They have not been trained. No one has said to them, you have to teach differently. That teacher failing in the school and the teacher succeeding in the white suburban school, switch them and they will fail over here and succeed over here. A great teacher over here will fail unless they do the navy seal stuff youre talking about. Were talking about. What do you think about the controversy over common core . Attitudesit say about towards local control and resistance to uniform standards and about our ability to improve our Education System on a National Scale . This side that is very upset about being blamed can read into everything that is pejorative, every move being made. Well a that way as little bit. This one is blurrier. Prescription is critical in these schools. Curriculum, like Early Childhood curriculum, has enormous effect on kids. It is a fact. Its off the charts. If you teach a kid a particular book versus another book in Early Childhood, by the time they get to kindergarten or first grade, it is enormous the difference a correct curriculum can have. Definitively, data says it works. On that front, it is correct in spirit to raise the standard with datadriven curriculum. The messaging coming from that we areause you suck, going to show you how to teach. You are doing something kind of correct, but doing it in a spitting at them kind of way. About, howything is do we motivate these teachers and principals . Thats not what the data says. You talk about eliminating the worst teachers and keeping kids in school for longer as pillars of your strategy. In south korea, teachers are paid based on demand for their skill. It is essentially a free market for teaching talents. The students there are routinely ranked among the top in the world. Should the u. S. Take a page out of south koreas playbook . No. [laughter] use any data outside the United States and consider it valid. Finland was not built on slavery, has no racial inequality. The highest economic tier and the lowest economic tier are 5. 6 times difference, very small difference. Ours is 16, 17 times. Our issue is we are telling these kids they are worthless, that they have no value into this country. That is what is being told. It is about messaging. These things we are talking about is correcting a sin our particular country has. Theres probably a similar one in england. Its not in finland. What best practices are from other countries is dangerous. Its not correct it is not acknowledging our responsibility of what we in this room are telling our children in the innercity. A california judge ruled monday that teacher tenure violates students rights to a good education. What do you think, does it . What is the messaging we are sending to the country and to the teachers . Extent is ame little bit backwards, based on what data says. The data says you cannot tell if a teacher is good or bad for the first three years. After are getting tenure the second year, just when i can tell you youre terrible, youre in for life. Its reversed. You should be tenured for three years. Geoffrey canada was a terrible teacher his first year. Should he have been fired . Everyone is bad. Its an art form. You cannot tell. It takes three years. They find it and start to connect with their kids. It is an art form. Ironically,enure, data says it is not all that important. We won most of the teachers to be there working anyway. The extremely terrible teachers at that point could be weeded out after three years. The rest of them, they have to stay anyway. We need them all. This is not a vital, important issue. Did they saye that, they violated [inaudible] yes, tenure violates come on. That does not say its your fault, i dont know what else does. In the Perfect World right now all the rules are set to contain bad behavior. That is what all the rules are set for, as opposed to flourishing of best practices. Lets say that mrs. Soandso is an amazing teacher. She should be able to teach first one up to get to assistant principal. Everything should be flourishing. That has been proven to cause retention and School Achievement to go way up. It is not actually the things we think it is. Why do you think that why do we think they are motivated by pay more than us . Some of the most unselfish people out there working. After certain necessities, that is not a motivating factor. It is success, being heard, all the things that would motivate us. This conversation about tenure is confusing to me. Them how to be navy seals, and then hold them accountable. Then give them whatever they want, tenure and all of that. What can we do to get parents more involved in their childrens education . As we implicated here are talked about lightly, the messaging outside the school is not great. If you have looked at the studies, those homes, innercity low income homes are speaking millions of words less per year than high income homes. There are no books on the shelves. We know that. In the data that i had for the book, i did not have enough data to say that changing the home