Win our next speaker is the author of takeover the hundred year war for the soul of the gop and how conservatives can finally win it. Richard is a pioneer in the Political Landscape of the United States. In the 1960s he was the first to use Computer Technology in political fundraising. His marketing techniques revolutionized conservativey and campaigns. He founded American Target advertising in the 1990s. A group that specializes in helping conservative organizations and leaders sharpen their grassroots work. And now he runs conservative hq one of the leading news sites. Where is he . Oh, he is there please welcome richard vigory. Thank you. Good morning, everybody. I jokingly refer to myself as w03. I have been active at the conservative movement longer than any other living conservative except two others. Dr. Lee edwards of the Heritage Foundation who i will introduce this afternoon and wo1 is anns mother the first lady of the conservative movement. So if my cup runs over and i will be with w01 and w02 and all of us are going long and hard every day to advance the cause of liberty. I wrote this book ann referenced takeover because in my opinion, ever since i have been in politics, which is well over 50 years, conservatives have had their political guns pointed at the wrong target. Harry reid, nancy pelosi or obama. Whoever it maybe. The number one point is establishment Big Government republicans. This is a 102yearold war. In 1912, Teddy Roosevelt sought the republican nomination for president , failed to achieve it, left the Republican Party and started the blue moose party that led to splitting the republican vote in 1912 and Woodrow Wilson election was less th 42 . And the Republican Party has been battling that every since. Sometimes it looks like ford, reagan, mccain, dole these are Big Government republicans. They are much more in common with democrats than they conservative republicans. Look at the extent Establishment Republicans went to in mississippi to hold on to power. They have much more in common with democrats than us. They engage in corruption, lying and cheating to hold on to that senate seat in mississippi. In conservatives and are like the biblical jews who could not get to the promise land until that group of flawed leaders left the scene. We will not get to the political promise land until we get new leaders. I think we are poised to do that. I have been involved for 50 years and i am more optimistic now than any time in my entire life. Over the last 50 years, periodically people ask me richard, is it too late and have we gone too far down the road to socialism to turn it around and can we still save america. And i had one answer and that is one answer. Things have to get real bad, real quick for america to get safe. Guess what . We are there. That water is boiling and the American People are jumping out of it. The one thing i didnt say all of these years that i should is it is takes two things. Things to get real bad very quickly and there has to be some political machinery to take advantage of that opportunity and that political machinery arrived on the scene in 2009 in the presence of the tea party. And the tea party has changed everything here in america. When anns mother and i were involved in politics back in the 50s and 60s the conservative movement rested on a twolegged school and that is not sturdy. We would win 4047 of the vote and very seldom getting 51 . But then under the leadership of paul wire, Jerry Fallwell and others conservatives began to reach out and bring the social issues. The twolegal school was National Defense and Economic Issues and that was the twolegged stool that got us 4045 percent of the vote. With the third leg being added in the late 70s and Ronald Reagan reached out and brought all of those people in the movement and that was the lace in the election of 83 and 84. We are getting 5052 percent of the vote but we are not governing america. With the tea party we are on a fourth leg and no longer sitting on a stool but at a big table. We have an opportunity to governor america in a way didnt see possible since before the tea party. Conservatives have made a lot of mistakes over the year but my opinion was the number one thing was we became an arm, or appendage, from the Republican Party. The tea party is separate. Reagan talked about needing new leadership and ran against the ford wing of the party and the rockfeller wing and the nixon wing of the party. Only two u. S. Senates supported him in 76 and 80. He said we need new leadership. Leadership that is unfettered by old ties and old relationships. The tea party is unfettered to old ties and old relationships. I spoke in dallas a few years ago to about 125150 tea party for the weekend. I was their friday night keynote speaker. I met with a dozen or so. There was a woman from corpus christi, texas. And she said they have meetings and the local politicians would call and say we want to come to your meetings and her response was great, we would love to have you come, but you dont speak, you listen to us. I dont have a friend that would talk to a republican politician like that. It is so refreshing hearing the tea party be independent and unfettered to the Republican Party. James carvel in 1992 famously said over and over to democrats it is the economy, stupid. He wanted to drive that point home for the democrats for the 1992 campaign. So i paraphrase and say it is the primaries, stupid, it is the primaries, stupid. Because in 20092010 we could see a wave coming and sweeping the democrats out. If all that happened is more Big Government republicans had been returned to office we would have wasted the opportunity of a lifetime. We could see that wave again. It could be a wave of tsunami porportions that will sweep the democrats out of office. That is why it is important we wokes on the primaries. A lot of copy has been written by our enemies, the mainstream media, about how bad the tea party is doing in this yours election. Do not believe them. The tea party and conservatives with winning. No republican out there other than maybe thad cochran and the only reason he did it is so we can appeal to liberal democrats to vote for him. Everyone is running as a limited government constitutional conservative. The republicans in congress are acting more conservative than they have in years. The reason we dont have a lot of liberal legislation is because of the influence of the Conservatives Tea Party types. But with a few exexceptions tea Party Conservative victories have come in open seats and open races. It is difficult to beaten incoming mate and where they are beating the Conservatives Tea Party they are outspending them 101 or 201. We are making a difference out there. I would urge you to think and realize we are winning and in my opinion taking over the republicans at the Grassroots Level is the most important political position in the world is a prestinct chairman and we must take it oversight and investigations over and build up. If we continue to focus on this, i think we can prevail in primaries in 2016, nominate and elect a principle smallgovernment leader and be g governing america by 2017. There is a lot of young people here and that is great. I am so excited to see so many young people. It may look like a dark period. I have been there when there was a darkness about the Political Landscape of biblical porport n proportions. It was tough out there Johnson Election and anything he wanted went through the congress. I was there when ford lost and carters four years and super majority in the congress. We didnt have talk radio then. We didnt have the internet. We didnt have fox or Cable Television and cspan. We didnt have the ability to go around the microphones. I was lucky many years to pioneer political direct mail that gave us the ability to go erran around the country and communicate with the American People. That changed 2010 comes along and rove, bush, mcconnell they are nowhere to be seen. People we marco rubio, mike lee, ran paul tea party and they liked it and gave the republicans their biggest congressional victory in 7580 years. I am going to wrap it up here, ann, so we can go to questions. One, twice, three times a day obama is going to do something to upset you. Take 30 seconds. Though something, get unhappy throw but get down and thank god he is president of the United States because i know no other way to save america. It is high risk. Lets take questions. Right here in to the lady. Hi, good morning, i am from georgia and thank you for being here today. As i am sure we have a primary coming up in a couple weeks between a business man and someone in politic and the common argument in this primary is whether or not we want someone who has been in politics for a long time with good relationships in washington or someone who is more in touch with someone running a business and an american working hard. Would you mind sharing your thoughts that the people that argue that people who are more in touch with running a business and what you might call the average american; is that better or should we rely on someone who has a better relationship and can give us a better chance of getting somewhere . Very good question. There is a runoff primary Senate Election in georgia between a longtime political leader and a business person. I am not in a position to endorse one candidate over the other right now but i will give you this piece of advice. I heard it from herman cane ten years ago. He talked about the qualities you look for and he said after you establish their conservatives bonafide the most important characteristic is you are looking for a boat rocker. Someone who is going to rock the boat. There have been a few high profile republicans who were not that conservative but they were fierce partisans. And we have leaders that are not able to articulate or fighters. We want leaders that will fight and articulate and someone who has been in office for 20 years that hasnt been outspoken in providing that leadership probably isnt likely going to start providing it in the 21st year. Let me take the opportunity to mention Something Else. Periodically i will have discussions with someone about a particular politician and they will say richard, why dont you think x or y isnt a conservative. And i have a full proof test of whether you are a conservative or not. And the test is tell me who you walk with and i will tell you who you are. I never saw Ronald Reagan in the late 60s and 70s and i saw him a far amount he was with us at the tables, sit at the tables with us and come to the meetings. But i never saw him, except i saw half a dozen stars of the conservative movement, you have saw reagan you saw dick alan and judge clark and Marty Anderson and when reagan moved conservatives all around him. So if you havent surrounded yourself with conservatives for the last 1520 years, when you move into office lets say you are running for president. I had this conversation with mitt romney in 2007 and i asked him about the people around him and he said you have to have con con con confidant times and i thought he blew me off because i said if ceos move in the issue is over. If they are not around conservatives they will not have conservative policies coming from the administration. When you started you were listing the Big Government republicans over the past century with nixon, ford and that makes it seems like the default position and the Party Leadership is biggovernment republicans with the two exception being goldwater and reagan. Can you talk about how they were able to defeat what seems to be the default biggovernment leadership and what that could mean for president ial nominees for 2016. I dont know if there is any secret sauce so to speak in terms of nominating and lect electing a Ronald Reagan type. I will say this, for recent president ial elections, maybe the last ever since reagan. We have had a few but only a few top tier really high level limited government constitutional conservatives running for president. We had good people but quite frankly they were not people that were going to get the nomination, okay . In 2016, we have a different problem. I think we are going to have a traffic jam of top tier high level quality candidates running and my concern is it will split the conservative vote half a dozen way and that is a serious danger. Many of the early primary states are in the northeast and in the northeast it is winner takes all. So if the establishment candidate gets 30 and the republicans get 20 they get hundred percent of the delegates. And to the south and west it is proportional. And sometime next year conservatives need to come together and unite behind one candidate as we did with goldwater and reagan in 76 and 80. And by the way, without promoting any one candidate and i dont have one that i think is absolutely superior to the others but i have one i am fond of. But anyway, let me just say, what i do is marketing. And i have been marketing for 50 years. I know that when i am trying to sell a developing Marketing Campaign for a candidate, a cause organization product, i want to position my client against the opposition or against the competition, if you would. So that in 2016 if we assume the democrat is going to be a washington insider Hilary Clinton i dont think that would be our strongest candidate. I think our strongest candidate would be someone from the states. A governor. We have half a dozen good governors. 10 at best in the polls so washington isnt poplar. We shouldnt chose one that looks too much like the washington insider like the democrats. I think it will be a limited government, good conservative who has done well as a governor. Next question . Over there. Hi. I am from france. I have a question about the tea party. Tell me if i am wrong, but the political the american political system is divided between republicans and democrats so as the tea party a chance to go through it . Or should Tea Party Leaders run as republicans to confer with the traditional system . Should tea partytype conservatives operate within the Republican Party . Some conservatives, myself included, have been there and done that and it aint good. I think conservatives, as i said earlier, we are so close to taking over the Republican Party and governoring america and it can happen in the next few years. I will be with a lot of libitarians for the next daws at an annual gathering in las vegas. I tell them i share your anger and frustration with the Republican Party. When they operate in my opinion in a 501c3 they make a wonderful contribution to limited government. But if they operate politically it is almost always a disaster. They divide the vote and it cost many republicans their election with the idea in mind they will try to show the republicans a lesson. I dont understand that. We had Ken Cuccinelli in november last november and tea party ran against him and got 7 and he lost by 2. 5 . I talk to the libishitarian leaders and i tell them i understand your frustration. What is your plan to get 51 of the vote and govern america . Everyone of them have an answer along these lines. No exception. Uh, uh, i will get back to you. That is not going to help us govern american. If all we do is divide the republican vote and allow the democrats to sweep the country and when they have super majorities at the federal and state level. If they controlled the congress with super majorities they will rewrite the laws in such a way we will probably never win another election. One more question . No . Okay. Great. Thank you richard viguerie. Hans is our next guest. He is an attorney and a former member of the board of advisors for the Election Commission and he is an ex pert on voter fraud and wrote who is counting. He is a staff member of the Heritage Foundation and frequently speaking and writing on election. Please welcome our guest. John fund work for National Review and he is a National Fairs correspondent and we wrote a book on Election Integrity and voter fraud and then we came out with this one in june. This is about how eric holder has run the justice worst attor general since mitchell under nixon. Mitchell went to jail. But holder makes mitchell look like an amateur. Part of what has happened throughout the department is they have been filling the ranks, the career ranks and remember the Career Civil Service system is supposed to be a system that hires people without politics, professionals and what they have been doing is filling the ranks with their political cronies and people from liberal advocacy groups. It got no attention from the press. Inspector general report talked about how in the hiring process for career lawyers in the Civil Rights Division, which is where i used to work, the division had overlooked and refused to hire lawyers who applied for jobs with sterling credentials and hire all of their lawyers from five liberal advocy organizations including t