Good afternoon. This is not my microphone. Im not used to it. Thank you for joining us for the program who will discuss her book in american story. Im the programming and Outreach Coordinator here at the public library. At this time i would like to ask that you turn off or silence all of your electronic devices. Also, at the end of the program, we will have time for a question and answer and then be available under a skylight to autograph books. We do still have a few available if you are interested in purchasing a book. Also with the qanda, i just want to make sure we are going to be on our best behavior. [laughter] shes here to talk about her book. She is not a politician. And you will get to ask questions like i said you will raise your hand, i will bring you the microphone and please dont Start Talking until i have the microphone right in front of your face. As i said they are 27 they will be available to purchase after the program. They are 27 that can be cash or checks made out to book works. Ms. Goldstein has bookplates that she will be happy to autograph and you can purchase the book from the world or the bookstore in madison. According to ms. Goldstein on the Washington Post website, she has been a staff writer at the Washington Post for more than a quartercentury. Quarter century. Over the years, shes written about social issues including medicare and medicaid. Social security, welfare, housing and the strains placed on the social safety net wide great depression. She also has been a White House Correspondent for the events ranging from the Monica Lewinsky scandal to the columbine shootings to the past for Supreme Court nominations. She was part of a team of Washington Post reporters awarded the 2002 Pulitzer Prize for reporting from the newspaper coverage of 9 11 and the governments response to the attacks and also a Pulitzer Prize finalist for National Reporting for an investigative series she cowrote with her colleague on the medical treatment of Immigrants Detained by the federal government. From the amazon summary of her book in american story is the intimate account of the following is the closing o of te General MotorsAssembly Plant in gainesville and a larger story of the american middle class. She has spent years immersed in gainesville including lots of time right here where the General Motors plant shut down in the midst of the Great Recession two days before christmas, 2008. Her book takes the reader deep into the life of autoworkers, educators, the bankers, politicians and job retainers to show why it is so hard in the 21st century to create a prosperous working class. Most observers record the immediate shock of the vanished jobs but if you stay around long enough to notice what happens next when the community with a cando spirit tries to pick itself up. Please join me in getting a warm welcome to amy goldstein. [applause] thank you for that introduction. And im blown away by how many of you are here. The first thing i want to say is that standing here it feels presumptuous to be here talking about your own story which you have been generous enough to share with me. So, i would really say thank you this has been the biggest work of my career and thank you for help they need to do it. Being here is pretty emotional actually. I arrived as a complete stranger here in 2011 and people in the room today have welcomed me to your living rooms and classrooms and offices and have showed me the files in tha the room righte at the public library, people that helped me understand this community and i cant tell you how humbled i am by the size of the crowd in this room. It means a lot to me. Im also interested to hear your questions and hear your take on what ive learned and what ive written because this is after all how i hear your story and it may not be how you see this race and im looking forward to hearing your thoughts after i speak for a few minutes. And i thought i would read a few pages from the book. It reaches the end of the Assembly Line outside i it is still dark. 15 degrees with 33 inches of snow merely a december record piled up and drifting as a steady wind sweeps across the acres of parking lots. Aluminum wheels and a nice audio system 57,400 for sale in this economy nobody wants to buy a the fancy suv. Standing in front of the shiny black as to be holding a banner the last vehicle off the Assembly Line december 23rd 2008. For the county historical society. As far away as the netherlands with the oldest plant so closing of the Assembly Plant two days before christmas this is the story of what happens next. I thought some of you might be interested in as they worked in washington d. C. Tape coming back soon the big picture way to have those stories that lie at the intersection where of Public Policy to help explain how they are affected by both. So after the janesville Assembly Plant closed died just got a little carried away. [laughter] but more specifically with the Great Recession arriving i was covering a very broad social policy be it and call writing a story that the government had locked away in the detention facilities. So what is interesting now . In changing peoples lives so i started to write for a the Washington Post. One of the southwest florida people signing up for welfare for the first time. Elsewhere includes people who have tumbled from the middle class and though stirred into welfare years after they thought they found permanent work and independence. Nearly 40 to the hundred 12 people and i have to do have to do to get by said tony as she sat in front of the terminal at five plants pregnant. They opened it tiptop title in 1986 those years they earned 50,000 but the business fails three years ago when the building boom collapsed. I wrote that story december 2008. The statement your Assembly Plant closed but i did not know that at the time. If you remember all of the job losses were not justin genes fell there were so many kinds of jobs going away that i was pretty focused on this. Over the next couple years i capt. I how they were writing about these bad Economic Times there were stories about the economy and the governments response and if that economic stimulus package that the new president pushed through congress was doing good or not. This was the fighting in congress over policies than more political stories in the midterm elections with a lot of riders were focused on the anxiety of voters i didnt see anybody putting those two things together. Unless you really understand their experiences that their neighbor had lost the doghouse and maybe they would be next. Looking at 2,009 most of those were about the government bailout and of those hominy were about average americans . 5 . This is a huge and important gap that we did not understand what it was like to have worked go way. Trying to do something about this so something fundamentally changing in this country and to find one community in what happened to people and workers and families when all this banished and it could be a microcosm or a metaphor by looking at this experience what was going on all around us i became so obsessed i did something i have never done to take a leave from my a job for the longest piece of work i have ever done. Review of think about it you better choose pretty well as a microcosm how did i end up bin janesville the dollar these other communities . I had no family hear i didnt have the friends but i heard about janesville well was looking for a setting for the Washington Post somebody mentioned there was a community in wisconsin that just lost a big General Motors plant and that that was interesting because a lot of people had worked for General Motors itself so the economic pain had not begin to sink in so i did not, but janesville wintered in my mind softer ride took some time off i kept thinking about various places i could go something just kept telling me that janesville may be the place in and you definitely qualified as losing a lot of jobs. There are different figures and we can see them looking at the bls in 2008 and nine about 9,000 jobs left this county. A lot. Look at the Unemployment Rate and in june 2008 was 5. 4 and in march 2009 a few months after these jobs disappeared on the job loss front you were a winner or loser but i have a sense i wanted to tell the story of what this recession had done so it is important to find a place because they dont want to find myself writing about the accumulation of economic decay to show what one bad economic time did. I wanted to find a place for economic trouble was new in the Assembly Plant was shrinking but it always got a new product that was a very different thing that was very appealing to me no place like everyplace so i thought it would be interesting to write about what those job losses match pretty well the National Pattern of those jobs that went away in the Great Recession those are in the Manufacturing Sector and a lot of those jobs lost pay pretty well but did not take a lot of higher education. More men than women so i thought this was a community with the number of qualities that other people could identify with and also had the since i remember the time i had a view to the video from barack obama at the Assembly Plant and dont space remember him coming in the first time i listen to the video to say the promise of janesville is the promise of america and that gave me goosebumps because they heard that video a couple years after it closed to let this president ial candidate was saying. With those world war effort with artillery shells and of course, of a state that was led by scott walker. So i tried to bring all of a reporting instincts of what might be a good setting. And i will make an exploratory visit to janesville. I keep in july 2011. I have arranged rita couple of people that were part of that first visit. So i first set the meeting with an oldtime reporter who left the newspaper and working as an education consultant it after the World Headquarters were renovated into offices. And we talked for a couple hours in the history of this Community Growing up as a boy in the Assembly Plant in what was happening now and finally he said would you like to see the plant . And to i said of course, i got into the car with a man i had never met before. [laughter] we turned left and there was the plant obviously it was huge i had never seen it before. Of this 1 million square feet closed. And he said something that surprised me i hate to go by this. If you know, him he is a pretty tough cat character calls himself a cynic and i tend to agree. [laughter] but his father had worked at the plant and he remembered how proud his father was of his wages to buy his first chevy. And that there is something here in this community with the relationship between this closed plant and a sense of what life ought to be like. So i kept coming back for a lot of years now i have met in spoken with many people in town and that is rather gratitude comes in. So trying to get people in town those who have various vantage points. Those of iraq the suppliers or teachers or people who did Economic Development i really wanted to a understand how this looked. I was slow to figure out who would be the main people. Its funny you talk about characters i cannot really pick and that were the choices they make. So i arrived 2011 which was two 1 2 years after the Assembly Plant was shut down and i would need to go back in time from the moment that the announcement happened so we have to find people to talk to ago a couple years what life had been like and i also have the sense needed to understand the history of the community with spent a lot of time because i wanted to understand what the past of janesville had been and where the pride in the work had come from. And with those identities to understand what it felt like. Ira did a lot of historical work. So when the plant closed many people were in denial that it was for real. I kept running into people who said just wait it is a matter of time. Does that seem familiar . Because the Assembly Plant started to make tractors in 1919 and chevy is on 1923 on valentines day. When one product with the way another showed up. Novi figured it would not not happen again. People made choices what choice do they make with those best choices are gone . Battle lot of people realized it would take a while to settle into what they were going to do. The Little People we wrap the heart, it could have been many of you but i had to pick some someone to tell you about those that i chose that was really great. One of the older families in town with three generations of people on the executive committee of uaw local 95 and that was rule interested in the role of the union when all the jobs went away. I got to know both mike and barb and the shop chairman and she went back to blackhawk and did very well. And decided to go into Human Resources management. But he had to decide going into management and they said people from the union side. The that is a thoughtful transition and then to say at a quarter century and it also urges retiring a few weeks before and i talk to them about what it was like to have a big return trip party so he thought he would try to go into utility work in just before he was to finish he began to think hard if the job would be waiting and like a lot of people was very financially responsible. Does you know those working with General Motors and that they had transfer light so that was one of the gender disputes from for wayne but to this day he leaves monday morning and comes home friday night so then he wakes up three morning seven the weekend janesville. But then you start working one job then you start working to. In his family did not want to lead janesville or move to another part of the country so finally deciding that was not dead could buyout but had six months of Health Insurance and now was important at the time. That bill and neighbor Highschool Seniors telling me what life would be like. And working five parttime jobs. Other kids in town doing the same thing they had a response of zero negative response ability they were not bringing enough money but in the one graduates already in the three years and is he coming a social worker in will be an engineer. Theyre doing great and there were trying as hard as they could to make a go of it. But i didnt want this just to be about the workers but what happens to a community in which to all other people do if there is more need for her then happening in this community before . The is as the founder of and then to get food and toiletries. But said she had sunbury to but unmarried with local Economic Developments. It is still going and it was trying very hard so i tried to get their perspective of what they thought they should be doing. Somebody else i got to know which was ground zero for where people went so that tommy lot about what kind of options were available and how people try to find people find jobs. So i thought that was valuable to see who comes in if they know how of work anymore and how hard it is to get yourself back on your feet. Will also write about a woman who was a his she is founder of project 1469 to try to raise money to have been accompanied homeless kids but i was moved by telling me in the Deloitte School system just talking that there were homeless teenagers could not believe it. That is not fair in rigid this is not the place. So she is exposed cut him was the head of the cochair for the task force that the neck of murder trial appointed and that was very interested wanted it takes to pool resources add a bad Economic Times to persuade General Motors that this was the plant when it would start manufacturing so i think it is fair to say everybody from the governor on down had it chance but it did not work out. I got to know about that in sharing his back to so i was those that some of you know, or do not know the one to have these closeups to the individuals to be the best they can that loss the part of its work. I also wanted to find a way so i am a nerdy journalist. And i did a couple of statistical things. And with the state Workforce Development board and that the data from the college with a Statistical Analysis with those economists in with those sobering patterns and what their pay was back in 2007 before the recession and the people who had gone back to school that nobody was doing as well. So it isnt that nobody did well but on balance they did not get good jobs or could pay in there are some of those eliminations about why that was and what kind of jobs you need in the community what turns out to be beneficial and black hawk was doing a great job with a couple thousand factory workers huge numbers of people go back to school imagine you worked in a factory for a long time you might not have been a great student to start with but you dont know what will be next that is scary for a lot of people to do so really to try ingenious ways with computer boot camp in the starting studies program but despite that effort not everybody with backtoschool benefited. At least not right away. Then i did a survey it was a mail survey and dont know if you got the questionnaire that went out to about 2,000 people and that survey work was great so what were their economic experiences and attitudes . So it was born and have for five years after all the work had vanished. So what blew me away was asking people do you think there recession is over . Threequarters said they did not think the recession was over. We ask about peoples Principal Financial situation. Is that better or worse . Over half said it was worse 18 percent said it had done better in those years so i was interested in how many households were directly affected and it turns out 35 percent of people said they or someone in their home had lost a job think of how many families were touched tarasco a series of questions just the people who have lost a job than the question was have you noticed any of this happening to you . So 75 percent of the people said they are losing sleep. Are you having strained family relations . Define yourself avoiding social situations . Yes. And what i found most heartbreaking do you find yourself in their store ashamed . Just over half said yes so that combined of all the people i got to know in town is that even when you lose a job with thousands are losing jobs losing work is personal trying to figure out if i was just good enough i would not have lost my job. So even from the outside can say this is that bad economic time with a corporate decision so i thought i would end by reading a of a bit more. This is a chapter toward the end of the story that is from fort wayne indiana. And about his ride home. Cmon. Get the hell out of here s. C. Speed walks across the of live the lobby. Friday night at the fort wayne Assembly Plant the end of workweek and the end of the second shift with 11 45 p. M. One guy among others on the factory floor. Reaching the of what the with a backpack slung over one shoulder. With a friday night ritual. A coworker wishes him a saved drive with the 97 saturn under the street lamps to think about where he has left a scar on monday. And then walked over to the pontiac grand prix. In the back seat popping the trump and slammed a the trunk shut on the passengers side as he does the engine and runs off. Four hours 35 minutes they are sure they will not get caught. Calling darcy to tell them they are leaving when he does the engine they said he is not the only one. With the clock on the grand prix says ted 54 00 p. M. He started working at fort wayne seven months before and will never forget that day his wife came along to help him move. The family left on monday morning which was during first shift and sat on a chair from that dinette set his wife and kids already backing in janesville. That was three and a half years ago now has 134,000 miles on it. Theyre not yet 10 minutes from the plant when he says this is my three year anniversary. Already texting jersey before going to work in the reply came back it seems a lot longer. And then adding a sad face. Should i keep going . Yes. This week it snowed 10 inches and four women tonight it is clear for the drive to the indiana farmland to get lucky and hit a double raccoon . [laughter] last summer on the stretch of 114 with explicit timing one raccoon ran into the road in one into the light and the grand prix struck them both. You dont get that every week. [laughter] tonight is lit up like christmas for remains divided as the better way to go farther north from friday nights. To give them a chance from the drivein Movie Theater but the passengers trying to get a . Peek at one time they drove to a giant thunderstorm vacancy shooting straight down into the field. With the weird larger than life david and goliath the phone rings their calling past the bed time it is about three hours. I will let you go. I love you. Now at the truck stop called the Pilot Travel Center the last before the illinois space. And has good snacks in multiple bathrooms. Carrying out the beef jerky and also popcorn with the bag of sour patch kids. North onto highway 49. Guest the attire to wobble off . You know, how to change the tire he says. You are doing a good job. Thanks. Now theyre going past kerry with the steel mills of the right to a flicker of flames when u. S. Steel arrived from Lake Michigan southern shore. Less than half of what was in 1960 so those leftover in poverty that was a perfect specimen of what the of rust belt looks like almost 130 janesville time in the expressway gets clogged it is easy to cruz tonight because of those extra hours of overtime later than usual and then they christened that the downtown skyline comes into view and then a car passes and almost looks like the gypsies. Chris does not like the silence doing color commentary is and then the text derives another filled with of janesville gypsies nine minutes later no lucky ticket. Though one time he got pulled over that he works in fort wayne during though weak and was a little bit excited to get their such a pass of Belvidere Chrysler plant when they get to their that they would be in their driveway in 20 minutes. In debt this hour chris goetz philosophical. Fiftyeight about time. Bernie about time it is coming up on 27 years. Part of that big hiring wave after the neardeath experience. Window last they really came december 23, 2008 the anniversary date means seven years in three months until they retire. When i retire i want everyone home i will be shuttled to bring you home. Pulling off the interstate i will have you hold in a heartbeat softer dropping him off crossing the rock river and then up to is this house on the north end of town he managed to keep because he is a gypsy. Just because it is nice to be home. At 3 20 a. M. Pulling into the driveway and has not remember to turn on the of sidelights just inside the garage door and was leaving for forewing for the first time. That 20 bill for gas and oil changes what time would you be here monday morning . Probably about 8 15 p. M. [applause] that was wonderful things for being here we will do q a and she is not a politician this is not a forum for opinions to dig a questions and answers they should be relevant to amys book. So what i will have to do is re sure hand and bring a the microphone to you. Be nice. I would be fascinated to know how you found the people . How did you find the families . People introduce me to people so in addition to stand and that those that were in retirement and said who else should i get to know . It went like that. I did not ask them such personal questions i got to know them a little bit. [laughter] in terms in time line . I was slow to start writing that i did research for about three years before i got a contract and i had to put together a book proposal whod the main people were going to me i had to know. Once i got the book contract then i was fortunate to have another one. I told you i had done this that i had never erred done before. Some of that time i was based in madison with an appointment at the university. I was here for the 2012 elections and during those months. So let me take some more time off the first draft took me nine or 10 months. When did i finish . I wrote the epilogue in december. If you dont think the education going back to school helped . That is the question. I will dodge that question i dont think retraining is necessarily a bad idea but it is hard to do in a place that there isnt a lot of jobs. Have you ever interviewed anybody from detroit for what they create when they close a plant . I will tell you the truth i tried very hard to interview rick wagner and was also out of work it was a matter of months after the Assembly Plant closed so the gentleman who was the personal director and i had long conversations with him about what happened and why indisposed to those at the fort wayne plant when it was like to have them coming and create a work force but i did not have as much access as i wanted. And onethird of the employee is those that are working on the makeshift and what happened to that community . That is a good question so i know people from deloitte were working on the plant. I did not specifically look at the financial effects for those who worked the night shift. One thing if found very interesting is they have very separate identities and i thought it was interesting that janesville was legitimate about its economy over do away. Deloitte. Until whole county but that is a different question than what you are asking. I dont know if you are aware it seems the personal in your cover is this person right here. I know he you are. We have never met. I just want to use say it is recovery. Is good to meet you in person eyeleted all different versions of the images of you holding that flag and i looked up who you were a wanted to know who was going to be on the cover. Glad to meet you. Reading the book . It is good to see you. I want people to understand what it feels like to have worked go away and show some the but before that but there was so much talk about unemployment and not the experience of losing work to newt understand what happens when it goes away. What about those that were not autoworkers . Very much i did because those longstanding use it was fair if they had Better Benefits so i tried to understand some of those resentments and that gm was paid very well but there also philanthropic i also thought was important to get to know those because obviously they are to Legacy Industries in this community and both of them went away during the five years with the stories i have written. And wasnt just focusing on autoworkers. And a lady said to me the guys at the plant make too much money and are not worth the. I thought of that. [inaudible conversations] did you do any research into the supply houses . We worked in one of them in a lot of people hurt down the line because they didnt know what to do do and the union didnt know what to do the company or gm people that were crippled for life because of the severance pay out of thousands of dollars of severance pay that we never received. I could go on and on and Affordable Housing we have all taken a hit on that did you do research on that . I thought it was important to show it wasnt just General Motors that there was a cascade for those that have been around because gm was around. Lets just say i told the story chronologically and each one is from a different persons point of view through the stories most of the time. And in one of the chapters, its kind of focused on the last day i talk about all the other suppliers that were going down at the same time because as i said it was important to make clear that it was a whole universe of work that existed not just General Motors any other questions . Im going to start back here since im already back here. I just have two questions. How many people work at the gm plant, can you raise your hand . Any choice at the Assembly Plant . Somebody might know that its closed, its just closed a. Thank you. If we can hear the question back here, thank you. Theres a chrysler plant just east of rockford just as well because [inaudible] they were earlier than here so i didnt look specifically that i know that there were people from the employment for a region. Its in the time the whole economy was bad so there were lots of jobs that have gone aw away. The customers didnt have the income they have had so it wasnt just gainesville and it wasnt just the auto workers. One of the things i already read the book. The parts that you left out you talked about the suburban leaving but you didnt make any mention at all that actually was kind of a unique story in itself in the relationship between union and management. There were actually two plant closings. I had to think about how to handle that, because if you are one of them working on that other contract, this book im a journalist, not a fiction writer and i try to make it as true as i can make it. Some books dont do that so there is something id written but i didnt report that i dont know to be true but i decided it would be confusing to say there was a book that was done in part into a small group of people that went on, so im glad that thank you. I was lucky enough to be the son of an worker rather than someone in the uaw but many of i my uncles lost their jobs in four of them make the commute to kansas in texas and my biggest question is were you able to find anything that would be done with the plant and how that would hinder the Communities Development efforts because its quite a large prime chunk of real estate and over the years i assume pre epa there was not much done in terms of keeping that soil clean or keeping the water clean so like i said, my question is what can be done with that plant because it is, in a sense, of light . T. Thank you for sharing your experience of your uncle and thats a great question. I know that not everybody what is close to fort wayne even though fort wayne is not that close. W in terms of the plant let me say a couple things. As many as you know, when the plant closed it was not for a long time officially closed. It was put on this limbo status called standby. For several years it was the only plant in General Motors that was on standby. There had been to butnd the springville reopens for a while and this one stayed on standby. My sense is that theres a real difference of opinion depending on where you were in the community as to whether that was a good thing or bad thing. Some people who had been at the plant or were union identified thought that if this is on standby in the economy gets good enough it means the plants will come back. Some of the Business Leadership of the community, my perception at least, said this is gone and time to move on and, you know, as you see in the story, i country this is a real schism that emerged on peoples sense within this community about the best feature here should be. The last i knew the city of janesville is negotiating with a couple of companies that arent themselves interested in usingty that property but are interested in buying that property to figure out how to clean it up and who else might want to use it. Ht its very much an open question as to what will happen with that huge track of land. Other questions . Thank you. Did you interview anyone who went to the drug and alcohol abuse at the plant . Yes. So, mark will pat the father is helpful with helping people with addictions and through him i got to know people in that universe. I dont mean to be polite but one of the things i was interested in when you lose this work and people dont have the money that theyre accustomed to having what kinds of social problems emerge in town. So, i talked to people who worked with victims of Domestic Violence and i talked to mentalo Health Director and i talked to the county coroner because suicides were going up for a while. I tried to understand district my sense is that different people react to a economic trauma in different ways. Different people have different amounts of personal resilience. Different people find their way forward or dont find their way forward in different pieces of time. I wanted to understand what was happening here to people who were having a hard time so, yes, i did talk to some of those folks and none of them are prominent in the story but when i say that i talked to many more people in town that are part of the story some of the people youre thinking about some of the people i got to know. I will talk as i think so bear with me here. Your story has great significance to this community. Im really pleased to hear that you put so much thought and research into the work that you do and that your employer, the Washington Post, was supportive of your efforts. Curious as to whether or not as you now go out and tell her story, in the broader world inin united states, do people hear it . It is easy when you live on the west coast or east coast or in the far reaches and you dont see what happens in the midwest, do they hear it and do they hear more of it than what we get on 32nd clips on television or inn a two column inch and a National Newspaper is buried on page teno i love that question because it goes to why i spent so many years of my work life writing the story. I wanted people to hear the story. This book is a brandnew thing that i can hold and im to the point where i love holding this book because for so many years it was this thing in my head a computer. This book came out a week ago tuesday and this is brandnew and ive been doing a lot of radio interviews and i was on a show called invisible which was about america in the first 100 days of the Trump Administration and this was an hour long call in so i was blown away because during it the host who was terrific, i thought, kept sayi g to people call in with your experiences what is happening in your community when work goes away in Natural Resources go away and what is your experience to this kind of thing and a gentleman called in from florida talking about how his town had lost the seafood industry andn now he was worried that it was becoming a tourism place based on the industry that used to be there and wasnt there anymore. Someone called in from maine talking about how the. [inaudible] industry had gone away along with the writer about coal country. Someone called about talking about steel and it felt like this radio ballet of people talking about different parts of the country that have been through parallel experiences and thats what i want people to think about. The subtitle of this book is the american story because in a sense, i viewed janesville as a metaphor for whats happening in a lot of places and i thought if i could tell the story to the generosity of people in one community who were help me understand it maybe i can help people think about whats going on around them. Anyone else . Have you down. I wanted to ask about the dissolution of marriage is because of the plant closing and the gypsies, people having developing another life where they moved to and didnt come home . We knew several people who lost their marriages to that but when you this last question im awfully glad you showed people with janesville, wisconsin is. I used to travel a lot and i would say wisconsin and they didnt know where that was. When they finally figured it out and say how close is your nearest neighbor . Left back when i would say its north of chicago they would say oh, el cajon. [laughter] or milwaukee and laverne and shirley so you put us on thee map. Thank you. I think that georgia parka the name on the map on the parking lot. Anyone else . Here i i want to personally say thank you to all of the people who are in amys book who are or were here. Some of them have already left but thank you for coming, thank you for doing interviews with her because it was because of them that you were able to write. Who had the question . Oh, you did. The question about getting out into the public about amysl books, yes, people are reading. My daughter is on linked in and shes one of the twins and people are writing on herht linkedin and it is getting out there and theyre very open about it. Are you planning a sequel . [laughter]ha now, i dont have to ask that question. I think the answer is time will tell. Im happy to have the first book out. Come hundre. [applause] thank you again, amy. It was a pleasure to have you here. Before everyone scatters there is a method to when you go out there if you are needing to buy a book make sure you have a yellow number and if you already have a book but you are aiming to autograph it there is a line for you, as well. Phil is out there in will direct you and amy and i will be out there in just a moment. Thank you so much. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] this weekend on book tv. Saturday at 10 00 a. M. Eastern we are live at the mississippi big festival with featured authors including mark dowden on his book 1968, a turning point of the american war in vietnam. Walter starr, author of Stanton Lincoln more secretary and the book a man in his present the political odyssey of William F Buckley junior. Sunday at 9 00 p. M. Eastern. Trolling is about sweeping away all concerns about what people might say or think about you safe in the knowledge that if you tell the truth and you do it in an entertaining way that you will when we were fans then media has made enemies for you. At 10 00 p. M. James okeefe founder and president of project veritas discusses his book breakthrough our guerrilla war to expose fraud and save democracy. Its very hard to break through to the Mainstream Media these days and we did a big story on cnn with hidden camera videos and cnn didnt engine a word about it. The notion of getting on the front page of the New York Times or getting Anderson Cooper to talk about you for the number one trending thing on twitter these are what we call breaking through. For more of this cspan schedule go to booktv. Org. Ahead this morning the Us Commission on civil rights examines the justice departments enforcement of the Voting Rights act act and the Supreme Court decision striking down part of the act. You will be there live at 10 00 a. M. Eastern over on cspan. It will also be streaming online at cspan. Org and on the free cspan radio app. Next, we will hear from john the oklahoma insurance commissioner on efforts to eliminate and prevent insurance fraud. This Senate Commerce transportation and science subcommittee hearing runs about