Of what everyone knew would be a long war but as you pointed out, our Current Administration does believe, and there is an enormous pressure now toward the Political Correctness of that islam is a peaceful religion. I know something about the koran. You can fine peaceful mentions in it, but basically, as you say, islam and islamic terrorism feed on each other, and all you had to do was find the worldwide polls of september of 2001 that showed how many muslims around the world supported the attack on the United States. Now, my question is, given all these years of Political Correctness, given the kinds of things that the Yale Muslim Students Association were saying in their fortunately unsuccessful attempt to squash alis appearance at yale, how long is it going to take . What will it take to convince the American People to understand where were going . You mentioned it took 30 years after 1970, 40 years for americans to understand soviet communism. I dont think we can wait 40 years for americans to understand the true nature of islam and islamic extremism. What will it take . I think the distinction between islam and islamism might be a necessary fiction for political leaders, but it doesnt hold water. Youre absolutely right. But i think the American Public is far better informed than it was ten years ago. I dont think they buy the administrations line about islam being a religion of peace. But how can we get them mobilized . How can we get successive administrations to wake up to this reality . Im not certain. But i know that certainly within the Republican Party, they also dont buy into this idea of islam being a hijacked by minority of islamists. As Michelle Bachmann and others but also alan west, no longer in congress but he was a former house of representative but i have known, apart from people like me continuing to write books, giving talks, i have no great grand strategy for it. I do think that you have to distinguish between islam and islamism or islamic extremism. I dont have the figures but there are obviously millions hundreds of millions of people who are islamic and who practice that faith peacefully. They may support terrorism but there is that is an important distinction to make. Indonesia is the Worlds Largest islamic democracy over 200 million people. Certainly we cant ascribe these views to the majority of People Living in that country. I think thats the case for many islamic countries around the world. I think we have to be careful in distinguishing between those who seek to use violence against civilians to enact their political agenda, islamists and the many, if not most, people who identify as muslims, and dont support similar tactics. I dont think you can say that eave person who is a member of the muslim faith is a potential terrorist or i think also if you look at just the sheer numbers, if there are a bill muslim in the world and only one percent of them are sympathetic youre talking about a million people. But the answer to when do we wake up . My guess is it will be sorry . Ten million. Im thinking one percent. So pedantic. These math majors. I think one of two ways people well wake up one there will be another terrorist attack, which i think is likely. What kind who knows. But the other will be theres a 30year war coming and its going to be shate divorce the sunnies. The shize are iran, the puppet government in baghdad what is left over iraq and the crescent going from tehran to damascus. That will be opposed to by isis and sunni various sunni groups radical sunni groups al qaeda,ing a nusra, isis and if theres 30year war it will dawn on people in the rest of the world maybe there is something to both sides of the religion. I think most luckily wilt be another terrorist attack and thats inevitable. Mark. Thank you all for coming. So, i want to ask, i guess more theoretical question, and perhaps this is unhelpful but in framing the way conservatives are kind of split on this issue, there seems to be a division among kind of a practical question of only considering Foreign Policy in a sense of what is going to be best for our nation. I think this is the more libertarian approach and also being concerned about setting the precedent of a Super National kind of focus on human rights, being the main concern there versus seeing a moral obligation to carry forth the message of liberty to the world and to basically in our power and in our opportunity try to do good things for the International Community the christians in syria, the people who are under authoritarian regimes. Is it a serious tension that needs to be confronted within conservativism and how should we frame this issue . Id love to answer that. I think theres a civil war coming in the Republican Party for a conservative movement, and you expressed it very. We interventionist versus noninterventionist us. By way of example ive the chairman of the national cpac so this is a conference in late february in washington and im trying very hard to get people from all make a big tent so the people from the john mccain wing who will say we need to get involved, go back into iraq and we may need 20,000 troops in iraq to re rand paul wing that says not at all and everybody else in between. Its not an unusual debate. When i was in the Reagan Administration we had the same debate where it was do prow want to get involved in the middle east with American Military forces or not want to get involved in those areas and maybe use neck warfare or other forms of pressure to get the result you want. Its a division that has always been in the conservative movement. Sometimes gets papered over when we dont have anyplace were fighting over but now it will be a major and i think probably the major issue in the republican primaries because republicans agree on Everything Else cut taxes, less government, maybe theres disagreement on immigration. But the National Security issue is the one there will be a very wide and raucous debate over it, because Flash Forward to a year from now iran will be a threshold nuclear state. The middle east will still be at war. Who knows where well be in the middle of the war. There will be increased conflict in europe and i think james is absolutely right, estonia is next. So youll see a very roiling world in the sense of conflict. I disagree this is going to be a big fight within the party. If you actually followed the statements of rand paul over the past year he has been all over the place. Eis he is evolving. But he quoted me so i think he is evolving correctly. The end of the day the Republican Party is the party of National Security hawks and he realized that. If you followed his public statements on isis over literally the week they the first journalist was beheaded it was like night and day. He had to attune his views. He did a complete 180. Now, personally, think rand paul is very similar to his father, in his world outlook, but he is a lot smarter and understanding that he cant let the free flag fly all the time because he wants to let the freak flag fly all the time because he wants to be president of the United States. This rand paul he hired some ostensibly mainstream advisers i worked with him. The former head of the International Republican institute but i dont i really dont think most conservative republican primary voters are going to agree with what rand paul is presenting as Foreign Policy. I disagree but we have time for one more question. Thank you. I have a question for miss mcfarland. You mention you think that a problem likely in chinas future growth is going to be the aging population. So do you think that theres a way to try to prevent that problem for tackle it while keeping in mind their population growth issues . I think china has some real the demographic thing is definite but they have fissures in their country, one between a more militaryic and stoking nationalism, and in china, thell is gone, communism is gone as a religion. The religion since xi jinping has been get rich its good to make money and thats slowing down. So theres no blew no glue holding them together except the chip on the shoulder, we used to be great were gravity again, why doesnt anybody recognize that . And youre starting to see it in territorial expansion. Where theyre headed is a place where theyll have a lot of internal domestic problems not just demographic or aging population but expansionism. The last time somebody in that part of the world tried that, japan. The other parts of the region east asia, southeast asia, asia at large were week and couldnt challenge it but i dont think china does this without having real blowback from countries in the region who can militarize, nuclearize, or challenge the chinese. So my concern on the rising china, to prevent a rising china from being an aggressive rising china is more up to them than it is to us. We thank the panelists for these remarkable presentations. [applause] just a quick note. For those who rsvp asked to the dinner and reception the investigation beginscast 30 to omni. Thank you. [inaudible conversations] booktv is on twitter. Follow to us get publishing news selling updates, author information, and to talk directly with authors during our live program. Twitter. Com booktv. Saturday, january 24th is National Readathon day. Organizers have asked participants to pledge four hours to reading as part of a fundraiser for the National Book foundations educational program. Throughout the past week, booktv asked viewers on social media what they were reading. Here are some of the responses. At she says she will be reading by things fall apart and on our facebook page, sandy is reading river of smoke. Second in a trilogy about india during the british and chinese opium wars. Trisha on facebook, potion shell be reading the strain by chuck hoeing again. Let us know what youre reading for national reedathon day. And go to Penguin Random house. Com for how to participate. 18995 Oklahoma City was bombed. O. J. Simpson was tried for murder. President clinton met Monica Lewinski in the white house and the international began to be widely used in the country. Beginning now Joseph Campbell looks at the political and historical importance of that year. This is about 45 minutes. [inaudible conversations] good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the tv studio and another edition of inside immediate y. Inside media is our Weekly Program where we talk with journalists, newsmakers and authors at issues and books. Im your host, the Senior Program manager here at the museum. Happy new year to everyone. We say adios and perhaps good riddan to a somewhat tumultuous 2014. We welcome 2015 with our resolutions hopefully still intact and hope it will be a prosperous one. Today we discuss a new book that takes us back in time 20 years, and reminds us that 1995 was an exceptional year. Here to talk about the book is j. Joseph campbell, all authorize of 19195 the year the future began. Which looks back at five decisive and Pivotal Moments of 1995 made its watershed year whose effects reverberate today. Joe is a professor in the school of communications at american university. His last book, getting it wrong, was provocative media myth busting book which in 2010 won the society of professional journalists National Award for research about journalism. He is the author of six books total, and has lectured at the library of Congress National press club and the smithsonian institution. I should also note joe is a dear friend of the he helped develop and right many of the museums permanent exhibits. So please become back joe campbell. [applause] good to have you, joe, in the preface you write some watershed years are immediately obvious before the year is over. We take 1968 for example. I guess 2001. Following the horrible day in september. But you take in you argue its taken some time to recognize 1995 as a watershed year. First of all, how do you define a watershed year and how did you come to realize it was one of those years. A wintershed year is a Pivotal Moment in history, a hinge moment when you can really see in retrospect with some passage of time, some critical distance, how important that moment that particular time that year if you will was and in many respects it has to have some lasting consequences, hat to reverberate through the years wife. Argue that 1995 was both a watershed year a hinge moment that one could detect at the time as well as with the passage of 20 years now. The verdict in the of j. Simpson trial in october of 1959 1995 was a flash bubble moment. People remember where they were when they heard the verdict. Similarly, with the bombing of the Oklahoma CityFederal Building, it was the worst, deadliest act of dork terrorism in u. S. History and people remember where they were whan that happened. A flash bulb moment. So people knew this would be a memorable year. Host when did it become clear to you it was one those of years . Were you researching another book . How did 1995 pop up. Guest in the Research Process you always think about the next project, the next book youre going to be working on, and in the back of my mind 1995 was that prospective project, a prospective topic to take on and to investigate in depth in on booklength depth. I remember Newsweek Magazine at the end of 1995 devoting its cover to what it called the year of the internet and explained why 1995 was the year of the internet and did so in hype are bowlic terms but nevertheless it stuck with me and was a back of the burner kind of ideas i kept in mind and when its time came up dewere angling for the publisher for the 20th 20th anniversary of 1995. I. E. , 2015 to bring out the book now at the anniversary, and so it made sense in that regard too. But it was very much of a hinge moment, watershed year, not only for the event is mentioned moment or two ago but because with the passage of time we can see how important the emergence of their by net was and you can define 1995 as a time when the internet took hold. It wasnt invented in 1959 by any means but it was the year in which people sort of became aware of it. Mainstream americans became aware of it. Not everybody was online but everyone kind of knew about it, heard about it. And was also the year, of course that clinton met lewinski, and only in retrospect that the effects of that scandal became clear and were still living with some of the effects to this day. But the scandal took place or began to emerge if you will, a few years after 1995. So it had both effects. It was one of this flash bulb moment, year when you knew it would be a memorable year, but also with the passage of time was year in which the significance and importance of the time became more obvious and more detailed. Host let get interest the events. We start with chapter one, which is the year of the internet. About the internet lets play a sound that might be familiar to many of you but maybe not all of you in this room. Beep beep, beep beep, beep, beep. Screeching. Bleep, bleep, bleep. Joe, can you explain that sound to people under 15 or 20 years old . Guest thats the digital handshake. The connection of a computer talking to the modem and making the connection to go online and that is how most americans made their way online into the online world in the midand late 90s and into the 21 not century. Host what war the key things in 1959 that propelled the internet into the powerful media its today. Guest a discussion of a lot of Media Attention and a great deal of media hype even about the internet and what it could do and that helped propel the interest. And it also was a tomb in which many of the a time in which many of the mainstayed on the digital world, outfits and companies we recognize to this day as important and significant, had their start. Amazon. Com started selling books in july of 1995. Almost no one noticed. Almost no one realized there was this book seller out there but it has become this that dominates the online world in many respects. Ebay had it start in 1995. The predecessor to craigslist began in 1995. It was also the year of match. Com government going, in 1995. So Online Dating and online relationships also began to take form. A great anecdote in the book jeff bezos stuffing books in packages to send to people and he wanted to buy knee pads, and someone said, i would dont you buy a packing desk, and that made a lot more sense. Guest the thought that was a tremendous idea and one of the greatest he heard that year. Its suggests the primitive nature of the early online entities that have become so dominant and so important. Host i want to ask you we have a headline from a mercury news announcing the are you ready for the internet . How did the Mainstream Media treat the emergence of the internet . Obviously the internet has not been a good thing for the newspapers nationwide, worldwide. Guest thats right. There were actually two ways in which the internet was discussed and presented in main stream traditional media in the mid90sened including the headline here, from the San Jose Mercury news inviting people to experiment and get online and see what the hype was all about. On the other hand a lot of media, particular live media leaders are were saying we dope think the internet is ever goin