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[applause] doctor gorka serbs at the university so full disclosure, the said chair is supported by the Marine Corps UniversityFoundation Trustee which is a fabulous organization if you want to check it out and make a donation, that would be great. When he gets to talk you well understand why they do such great work and bring this incredibly accomplished scholar to work at the Marine Corps University. It is an extraordinary university. We are proud of that. Hes also a professor with the u. S. Special operations with u. S. Special operations command, joint special Operations University where he serves as the legal instructor for the special operations combating terrorism and more importantly he is offered over 140 monographs, book chapters and writings on this broad swath of issues that deals with this extremism and global terrorism. I think the most important credential i would defy you to go into the office or one of the intelligence agencies or any combatant command around the world or any of the services and find somebody that hasnt sent in a briefing with gorka. He is the man that brief the people fighting this war on the realities and his observations in an rss. The book how to deal with this long war which seems like its just getting longer all the time i think its for people that care about this issue and about the country and its security and the challenges to the peace and prosperity in the world today can and we ought to take time out and listen to hear what he has to say. We are excited to host him here today. So hes going to talk for a bit and then take questions. If you have a question, if you would raise our hand, an your hi think just recognize we have microphones if he would wait for the microphone so the folks that are listening online can hear the question and then state your name and affiliation. Please join me in welcoming gorka. Thats an introduction my father would have been proud of and my mother would have believed. [laughter] i wouldnt have my incredible position at the university or have been able to write this book without the support of tom sanders comes with the family found my position at mcu and made the writing of this book possible. Logistically, my team here is also present in closing my editor. So, tom and everybody else, thank you for giving me past the finish line. Let me talk about why i wrote this book. To understand the ideology of the group sai groups of it is ar isys today. I grew up in the middle east and the arab culture is the experience of my family under communism. So my family lived in hungary and the communist dictatorship, and my father was actually responsible for creating a secret Christian Catholic underground organization. They were feeding the intelligence to the west and the reports were landing on the desk of the one. They were betrayed from london and as a result of the age of 20 my father got a life sentence. Starting with two years in solitary and two years down the coal mine after that. This is the story with which i open my book i didnt want to do it, but my wife said america would love a good story so i opened up with my father. And my father being liberated from the communist political prison from 1956, escaping across the minefield into austria and then finally making their way out to the west, my father though he had been betrayed when they asked him where do you want to go, he said the United Kingdom so thats how they ended up in the uk and how i was born a british citizen and eventually moved to hungary after the fall of communism, but now im a very proud american citizen. I let found this a very simple one. I grew up with the mothers milk of freedom and democracy just instilled in me from day one. Because my father escaped from the communist dictatorship in prison, i understood before i could walk the fragility of liberty and the importance of liberty and how fragile it is and how Ronald Reagan was absolutely correct that the loss of liberty is one generation away. Years ago like today it was beautiful clear skies. When i saw them flying into the twin towers of the world trade center, i viscerally understood that to be totalitarians are back. They may not be communists, but they are to solitary them. If you read the work that informed of the groups like isys or al qaeda, it is true that america is once again facing a global totalitarian ideology. In the 20th century, we vanquished the totalitarianism and hitlers third reich and the soviet union and marxism. Today we are facing a similar ideology that sees itself in a global them or us competition. Its no accident that the ones i detail in the book. One of the most influential of the story begins with him as an egyptian hes the most important thinker of the Muslim Brotherhood. His seminal work of milestones is a very, very strong concatenation and mixture of fascism or communism all wrapped up in the religion of islam and its these people you must read and understand if you wish to understand the threats to america and why it is an existential threat. These people will not be negotiated. Anybody that thinks you can sit down with either alabama or al qaeda or isys and negotiate about your future. The only thing you can negotiate about is how you will be killed. Will you be enslaved as a person that isnt recognized as a human being because youre not a muslim that is the reality. Its completely analogous when attempting to negotiate with hitler it doesnt work. You can negotiate with the fascists about what they will put you in and thats about the extent of the negotiation and we are again in this world. The rest of the world is beyond my game plan on how to defeat them and it starts with the lessons that said if you wish to win a war you must know your enemy. We do not know our enemy. We have Political Correctness out of control. The last 15 years unfortunately it started in the Bush Administration but now it has reached cataclysmic proportions when the white house and the unclassified memo five years ago banned the discussion of religion and counterterrorism training for the fbi or the military are saying that the word jihad was prohibited, we entered a new age in which it would become impossible to effectively win the war. A student of mine stated in his dissertation, and he will go unnamed, when the enemy gets the control of what youre about to say about them, youve already lost the war. Thats where we are today. When a man in traditional arabic dress run broadens out the cruir in philadelphia and throws the semi automati automatic at a pon and says this the glory of god and the mayor of philadelphia says its just a crime it has nothing to do with religion, then we are living in a monty python fantasy absurdity. The fact is you can only defeat the enemy if you understand them on your own terms. When they say bitte they are fi, you do not get to wipe that out of your threat assessment. If you do that you are censoring the intelligence cycle. It would be as if somebody said as we are preparing to storm the normandy beaches if somebody said that during world war ii, i know your rifle is ready but whatever you do, when you land, dont mention the word not because you could offend a german. Thats the absurdity of the situation youre living in it has to stop. This is the template that was successful but in the cold war. We want the war against the totalitarian ideology that with the secret documents that have since been declassified and i use these as a starting point from my strategy the first one is the famous telegram of George Kennans secret telegram the 14 page from moscow to washington in 1946 that explain who is the soviet union and what does stalin believe and why is he behaving in ways that are antithetical to the postwar peace of europe . That was the enemy threat of doctrine and analysis. It was an incredibly accurate description of what was called the personality of the soviet union that made it clear this nation and its allies are motivated by the ideology that will not stop unless we are destroyed and that is why this is a union i is mx essential threat to america and western allies. How did we go onto the analysis of who the enemy is . They were tasked by the administration and the document National Security council 68 he wrote a plan on how to defeat the soviet union from the outside and helped to defeat it from the inside by delegitimizing its ideology. That document was unlike any document ive ever seen. Let me read to you if i may one short segment from the beginning. In the book i actually reproduce both of those documents in their entirety in the back of the book so you can read them. Them. But let me give you an opening of the section and ask yourself a question. When i read these words to you from the topsecret Government Strategy to ask yourself how many times you hear language like this today in the unclassified documents and statements from the rose garden, tell me if we talk like this anymore. Its laid down in the preamble to the constitution to form a more Perfect Union established justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves andur posterity. In essence, the fundamental purpose is to ensure the vitality of our society which is founded upon the dignity and worth of the individual. Do we have government documents that talk about the dignity and the worth of the individual, the blessings of liberty . We understood back then the Founding Fathers built this nation upon and we need to reinvigorate and remind ourselves that it is organizations like isis or al qaeda that denied these fundamental truths and are therefore an existential threat to the united states. So, what is to be done . I worked for five years, six years, too long. And as a result i am a little bit infected but i am a recovering powerpoint user select me share two slides with you. What is the message of my book . Of course i would like you to purchase it but here is a very simple message. Al qaeda and isis is another form of totalitarianism. It has to be recognized as such. Its not a function of poverty or lack of education or what the administration likes to call the grievances. What was the lack of political enfranchisement. It was a very welltodo manager and the golf. Not sure i understand what the local grievances are these individuals got beheaded fellow human beings on camera. Second, america has defeated totalitarians before, and he can do it again. Let me be explicit on this, it is no accident that it took americas involvement in the leadership in both world war ii and the cold war to defeat the nazis and the communists that is not an accident. Its a function of the fact that we are the only nation founded on the principles of liberty, freedom and dignity of human beings based upon them being made in the image of their creator. This is not an accident. This will be the utilitarian enemy. But only if we can remove the Political Correctness from the threat assessment and understand the stakes of this war. They are total and global. Its easy to prove isis then its ideals of caliphate and bureaucracy. There are 6 Million People living on the territory of the caliphate today. Theres the thousand armed jihadis. Thats not a theory or crazy idea of a man in a cave somewhere and if they reality. Theyve already issued manuals of the Islamic State on what you can and cannot do with your slaves explicitly sex slaves that you now own. Im going to get political if i may for a second because i dont work for the u. S. Government anymore. Why is it we are talking about. The name. Herriot tubman when women are being sold into sex slavery now . Do some people tv and congress, obsessing about slavery in america over a century ago but when it is happening today. There needs to be an understanding of what is going on in the world. So what is to be done to quote a certain individuals that may be familiar to you, number one, we have to be honest about who the enemy is and what they want. No more censorship. Lets get politic out of National Security. The idea that you are not allowed to talk about the enemy they use themselves, that must end. Also, we have to be honest its not a function of poverty or lack of political enfranchisement but that it is pure evil. It is the incarnate evil that we see in isis. There are other problems i will admit. Russia is a spoiler and north korea, but not climate change. Crucifixions and beheadings based upon what religion you profess, that is the primary problem. Problem. Get censorship out of the threat assessment and allow the professionals to do. Theyrthey are the primary victt us be clear the majority of People Killed by the movement are ductile muslims. The jordanian Fighter Pilot burned alive in th and the primy enemy of these individuals as a result on the front line like egypt to be the face of this war but as anyone that served in the region knows, that will never happen. It will never happen the way it self. You will not see this one that has been created today by the administration. 61 nations . There were to come in a 61. Lets talk about the reality come and the coalition to go and fight on the ground to recapture the places will never happen unless those governments and those people trust that they are behind them all the way and they have their fix as they say in the military. They do not trust America Today and you know what . If i were sunni moderates neither would i. After the last 15 years and especially after the last seven and a half. We need to have the next commanderinchief rebuild the bridges that have been burned to the ground. Theres 150 billion with the conclusion that we dont care. Obama be one o one of the team f the solution on the front line and then last and very explicitly in the cold war. We need a push in the propaganda and information domain. We are not present on the battlefield of ideas. Im not denigrating the work of a psychological operations units at fort bragg i know them intimately but they are limited and corralled. At the whitthe white house drivr propaganda campaign. Ultimately delegitimize the ideology of global jihad because this is our problem from the streets of paris to brussels, jihad is a lifestyle that is far too popular and when you have the director of the fbi testify openly that isis is more than 20,000 platforms and is posting more than 50,000 social media postings every day, its time that we started to push back. Only then when it becomes unpopular and when we support the islam that is portrayed by the jordanian colleagues that we will eventually win this war and defeat the new totalitarians. So that is my plan in a nutshell. If you have any questions or want to know more about the book, its available outside. My website has lots of information about the book and everything that we do. If you want to know, the company my wife and i run on the domestic threat in case you were still wondering about how serious the threat is, and that is also available online. So that is half an hour roughly. We have time for questions from the floor if they are being emailed him. This wathe floor is all yours. One question you mentioned [inaudible] thats the 64,000dollar question. What sort of developments do you see . When have we seen them function in ways that are commensurate with the standards of liberty, democracy and Representative Government or at least the rights of the individual . To be honest, i see two functioning examples or largescale ones. The legacy and jordan are the ones that function and are stable and cherish the values that we cherish from the whole. What is special about these two policies, they dissolve the caliphate in 1924 and its explicitly said everybody can be muslim, thats fine. But you know what, im going to divest and disconnect islam and politics. Like the Founding Fathers in america you can be muslim but that is a private issue. It cannot inform the government functions and policies. So, a very aggressive separation was one model. The state department doesnt like an idea where the state defines what a religion can or cannot be and where the military model was one, the turkish army is going to be the protector of republican identity. The idea that the guys in uniform are going to be that guarantors. But nevertheless, it worked until he came to power. Then we have the jordanians. Why is it so easy to work with them, why is the military so good, why are they such strong allies in the fight against is isis . When you have a family that provides certain credentials when mccain says you should do this and show them to do that, it has a certain weight but somebody else doesnt have command of course the military and the royal elite are trained here. The fact is they are socialized with the western values as individuals and then they have a credential that really cannot be gained easily by the extremists. Those are the two options. Those cannot be replicated. Unless you give the ball to jordan. You have to have a secularized nation and a legacy that is transposed. Ive spoken to him for hours. If you read his dissertation from carlisle is clear they are trying to wrestle with the question of democracy. Its what i did with the Muslim Brotherhood because i am an egyptian before im a muslim, then you understand what hes doing. Absolutely, great. But im not going to see my nation held hostage to an interpretation straight from the century. So if they try to reinvigorate the model but of course they are blackballed by this administrati