Took them nine months to put together a memorandum of understanding how they would all cooperate. They couldnt even agree how to cooperate. That is always, rice bowls and stovepipes and always a problem in the government and are always a problem. Would i like to see export enforcement, particularly arms export a greater priority within the department and department of justice. Department of Homeland Security really wants to do this. I mean, you know, in terms of these operations theyre the funding source. They are the ones who sum ply most of the travel and all of the rest and department of Homeland Security as you know, think a strong and sincere interest in pursuing this. I think they could get more support from the department of justice, and i think, you know, part of the department of justice has many, many things to worry about. There are lots of different kind of crimes and everybody who is advocating that a particular crime should be a priority thinks sincerely his particular crime is the most important crime. But i think if, you know, seniors in the department of justice would focus on the fact that the purpose of these export laws is to protect servicemen and women and it is to keep warfighters safe and if they just focused on the fact that, you know, when we lose our technological advantage it puts servicemembers, like seth, at risk and you know that, its a terrible and tragic thing when any Service Member dies in the line of duty but it seems to me its even worse and it is aggravated when you learn that theres a component in the ied that was actual manufactured in the United States and, it was acquired by somebody for that purpose. That represents a failure to me. And thats, you know, what needs to be addressed, i think. As i said, im an optimist so im expecting to see it addressed and maybe your book will do that. Maybe. We have a few minutes for questions, if anybody has a a question . I think your story is extraordinary and im looking forward to reading the book. My question is, how do, what happens to that kind of operation when you have shifts in the political dynamic as were seeing now with iran . How does that impact what youre doing when you indicated the target is in fact the government of a country we may be having, softening our towards . Me . Either. Im not a politician, so, i can only give you, you know, my personal opinion in terms of, how Law Enforcement works. But, the, if there was ever, for example, a normalization with iran, acts that prior to normalization were illegal would still be illegal. So if somebody is, right now, iran is under near total embargo. Maybe some day that will change. And it could be, that, parts of the embargo get adjusted, you know, Going Forward before there is lifting of the total embargo but, those changes are prospective. So they will affect what happens in the future. And then, what has happened in the past, of course, you know, doesnt change. So, you know the only, so in terms of the law, the change in, changes in statutes will affect, will affect Law Enforcement priorities but they wont affect things retrospectively. Good example would be libya . There were all sorts of embargoes in place before the fall of qadaffi. And i think some of those changed over time. Sometimes we were friend with qadaffi when it suited our purposes and sometimes we werent. I dont think there are as many sanctions against libya. I think same thing is true of syria. I think those sanctions have changed over time. I dont know that, from what ive seen i dont think that it matters whether it is a republican or democrat who is president of the United States. I think it has more to do with how we perceive different, different regimes. And as, as the british inform man, the white man he talked about that a lot. He would say, it is only an embargo because it is politically expedient. There were sanctions because it is politically expedient for you so it changes over time. I dont know that any president has done a good job at all of enforcing them. Does that answer your question . Yeah. Im growing to ask, i wonder do you have any sense how many people, with country like iran has an artbelly . How big is this market. Is there any sense, sort of numbers you can put on it . Well he contacted, he claimed to be in contact with 70 or 80 parts of the iranian government, state entities that are part of the government. He also claimed that every time he would try, when he would get a request for something, say he got a request for the phase shifter, he said he also made maybe half a dozen competitors with him, other guys just like him trying to buy the same thing, been told to go buy the same thing. They would all try to go out to get the best price. So you can multiply that. I would say it is in the hundreds but i couldnt say. I dont know authoritativelily. My estimate would be same as johns. It is interesting the way iranians set system up, acquisition agents like artbelly and others compete with each other. He was maddening person to deal with. He would give us request for poet. And give him a quote on part and wouldnt hear anything, we wouldnt know why. Often reason was somebody got better price. It is a very competitive business. He is definitely a capitalist. They all are. [inaudible] there were many deals. There were dozens of deals. Probably hundreds of deals. He did a search for the word missile and came up with 1400 different files if you, you know, there were over 100 Financial Transactions overseas. He was very prolific. He didnt always get what he wanted. At one point he had shipped over in crates a giant sonar system in, 747 cargo jets that went to amsterdam and then to tehran. He also bought things for 100. He said at one point. Im a salesman, i will buy and sell whatever you need and i dont think it really mattered. Thanks a lot for coming. Thank you. [applause] we want to hear from you. Tweet us, twitter. Com booktv. Or post a comment on our facebook page, facebook. Com booktv. Here is a look at some books being published this week. Professors linda gordon and astrid examine the history of feminism in america from 1920 to today, in feminism unfinished. Against football, one fans reluctant manifesto, steve all man considers ramifications of games brutality, the National Football leagues economic privileges and role fans should play in changing the sport. An economist explains how the Global Economy works in economics, the users guide. And in curious, the desire to know and why your future depend on it, ian leslie draws on research in the fields of education, business, economics and psychology to better understand the intangible properties of curiosity. Look for these titles in bookstores this coming week and watch for the authors in the near future on booktv and on booktv. Org. Next from the Computer History Museum in mountainview, california, doug menuez provides history of Silicon Valley, from the 1985 to 2000. He was given access to the biggest hightech innovatetores of that period, including steve jobs, andy grove, and bill joy. It is about an hour. When i was growing up i read a lot of biographies and autobiographies. I was fascinated by a lot of historical figures. The computer field was quite young but already people like ken olson, gordon bell who had done incredible work. We have a wonderful story, evolution of computing. It has been a great, great thing and i happened to believe that the computer is the greatest invention ever. I like the history, even before my time, machines that i barely heard of, actually going and seeing what they looked like, physical sizes, looking at something, nomenclature on switches and thinking about people that used the Semiconductor Industry made bigger changes in a few decades than printing has over a few centuries. When i was a student at mit, we all shared a computer, took half a building. Ibm 1794, costs of 10 of millions of dollars. The computer in your cell phone a million times cheaper and a thousand times more powerful. We are, recording events of history contemporaneously to them happening. Rarely in history you have do that. Wouldnt you love to hear michelangelo talk about what it was like to paint the sis seen chapel. This is a heck after place. I support the heck out of it. I think it is important thing. That is what a museum is about,able to understand the history of what has been happening and, to, see it and feel it. When i was a graduate student and i was complaining about the bureaus architecture, my faculty member told me, study it, even if you dont like it, there is something exceptional in there that got it to be successful. You need to know what that is. That is what the Computer History Museum is all about. Good afternoon, everyone. Welcome, thank you. [applause] great to see all of you here today. Im john hollar the ceo. Wonderful have you here. We had over 300 people register for this event, which is wonderful for a noontime gettogether so welcome. Much this is a first for us as i hope you noticed, i hope you took a few minutes to take a look at wonderful photographs by doug menuez downstairs. Well have this until september the 7th. This is the grand opening day. Were delighted you all are here. I want to make clear, we have a great new sponsor as a result of this collaboration we put together with doug for fearless genius. Its micron technology. This microns return to the valley after quite an absence but they are now starting to rebuild their presence here and were so delighted that micron stepped forward and saw this as the wonderful event which we all have seen it being. So thank you very much to micron for making that possible. [applause] keplers is our partner for the book signing as they always are when we have a book event so i hope you take advantage of that. Doug of course is doing a book signing afterwards and well see you out there with the good people of keplers. The next sound bite, two doing two sound bites, next thursday, july 24th. It is at noon just like this. Michael malone will be here, note author and historian from here in Silicon Valley. He has written a brilliant new book, intel trinity, how robert morse, andy grove built the worlds most important company. That is his assertion. He will be here with scott budman much nbc 4 who will do interviews. His book publishes the same day he is here. This is michaels first appearance on his Silicon Valley book tour, i hope you are here for that, thursday, july 24th. August 7th we return to revolutionaries after a bit of a summer break. Well look at the early days of the internet with akamai ceo tom layton i hope you are here for that. You have q a cards on your chairs or tables. Take advantage of that, thats how we get you involved in the conversation doug and i will be having after he does his presentation. Now for the program. Doug menuez is a very accomplished author and photographer and he has done so much important work all over the world in a variety of important fields. Today we focus on this incredible project that he did called, fearless genius, the digital revolution in Silicon Valley, 1985 to 2000. When he was a brilliant young photographer here in Silicon Valley in 1985 he met steve jobs just as steve was starting over after leaving apple and in extraordinary act of trust steve allowed doug special access to photograph him as he began the next chapter in his professional life, which was of course called, next. And once Silicon Valley heard that doug menuez had been given unlimited access to steve jobs behind the scenes all the doors began to open and he photographed more than 70 other leading companies in the valley. He got behind the scenes on sand hill road and venture capital. He went to the things that used to happen before we had days like y common nate tore when startup ideas are pitched to investors and rode that to the internet boom of 1990s up to 2000, when he concluded that work just as dotcom bubble was collapsing and singular era in our history was ending. He generated 250,000 images from those 15 years of work. And what you seedown stairs is 50 of his wonderful and carefully curated images. There are many wonderful in images in the book. It has been a barcelona. It has been to china. It has been to other interesting parts of the world and now it returns home to Silicon Valley. This is its only west coast stop and dougs only personal appearance. So were delighted to have him here today, here to talk about the story of fearless genius, join me in welcoming, doug menuez. [applause] thank you so much, john, for that beautiful introduction and thank you all for coming today. Its terrifying to be here in the belly of the beast as it were. You guys all lived this history. But i as a witness will tell you a little bit what i saw. I will take you back now to a simpler place and tie, to Silicon Valley before the internet, before facebook, before texting. It was the age of the beeper. The fax was call. It was during the digital revolution when a secretive tribe of brilliant engineers, entrepreneur, venture capitalists came together, sparked an explosion of innovation that rocked our world. They proved that the power of Creative Ideas can become reality given enough gut, wil power and sheer passion. Along the way they created millions of jobs and untold wealth. Then my project looks at challenges we face in innovation today, particularly around education with shortage of engineers and trend of shortterm investment. There is not a lot of patient money for really tough props like solving Climate Change today. And if were not doing that, are we really as innovative as we think we are, or were . Before i address that her rhett tick call question, heretical question, let me take you back how i got to Silicon Valley. I wasnt particularly interested in tech. It was about people and culture. In 1985 i was a young photo journalist covering famine in ethiopia. I had been a news photographer for a long period of time and seen a number of her risk things, death. This was a on a scale of incomprehensible. You walk into a camp of 100,000 people almost all of them were dying. I shot all around the world for time, newsweek and life. I was overwhelmed by this and began to question my own role and how i could contribute something meaningful. I went back to the bay area and i started to think about trying to find a story that would be more hopeful for the human race and for meaning in my own life. That same year, steve jobs was forced out at apple, from the height of fame and power, he hit bottom, he announced he would build a supercomputer that would transform education. I knew from my work that education was the key to some social issues. That got my attention. Through friends i reached out, and i asked if i could document steve and his Team Building the next computer from the early days to shipping and capture his process of innovation . And i wanted complete access and wanted to do it for life magazine. Amazingly steve agreed. Of course being steve he was already thinking about this. My timing was good. I stayed three years and as john said, steve blessed me with his trust and i was able to go through the valley and expand my project after three years and cover most of the leading innovators and over 70 companies and i shot a lot of film, a lot of startups. Now that material is at Stanford Library where it is being preserved as resource. With the scanning weve done we can bring you now the fearless genius book and now this exhibition. Were trying to do documentary and Education Program and continue this to share and celebrate the history of what happened during those days and bring those lessons forward to todays entrepreneur. Im going to begin with steve where i began. I will share a number of stories with you today but this is, this where i started with steve jobs. We all know about his Great Success but most people outside the valley dont know about the ten years of struggle an failure he went through in the wilderness. One day, you know, we were talking and they were trying to put the power of a mainframe in a one foot cube, difficult. The prototype came and i asked steve, we were looking at the prototype, i innocently said, what are you going to do with this cube any way, steve . He wheeled on me. I want some kid at stanford to cure cancer in his dorm room. He. With the look in his eye i realized power he had i believed it was possible and he seemed to believe it was possible and his team believed it. Everyone wanted to be on the bus in the future. This is the day ross perot came in with 20 million to fund next. He started with six million of his own money. He said to the beam, lets go to the abandoned warehouse where we build the factory and do this lunch pitch. He told ross, well build the most Automatic Assembly line. Build 12 compute arrest month. Ross wrote the check. This is early days of company. Steve is saying, interrupting his presentation and saying, hey everybody, lets work nights and weekends to christmas. Well take a week off. This engineer in the back raises his hand says, im, steve, we already are working nights and weekends. One of my favorite people and heroes from those days is susan care, who designed icons for macintosh. Became creative director at next. Went on to redesign the icons for windows and os 2 and magic and many, many devices. Her work affects lives of millions of people every day but few people know who she is. She is one of the unsung woman of the valley. Those who recognize the handwriting this, is steve jobs todo list. I like the last item. For those of you who cant read, ankle deep. This stuff is hard. It is heart. He was dreamer. Was able to build disparate ideas and find something to push ford. Like watching an artist in that regard although he had other attributes as you know. Ive been blessed in my car as john said. Ive been to the north pole. Crosses sahara and photographed president s and movie stars and lots of experiences. By the time i got to steve i had many life and death experiences, yet, somehow being in the room with him was terrifying. Even though he blessed me, given me this access an one day he would tu