If you talk to an isis member and say why did you do that they would immediately refer you to religion and they can talk to for hours about how this is justified. These two questions together please. On the subject of ethnic cleansing thegram wet article that the professor talked about mentions the possibility of genocide if isis takes over parts of a significant shia population. What do you think the likelihood that isis could create fullscale slaughter of people they declare to be otherwise not in compliance with what they see as proper worship . I agree with you when you say its impossible to counteract isis and air and into moderate muslim discourse that i come from france where you have a lot of young people joining isis even families of young parents with their children. How can one prevent this from happening prior to them being sensible to the discourse and then how do you suggest we will leave it with that. So i think its expansionist its about killing any area that isis controls nobody can be tolerated unless they believe in idolatry or they are subjected to idolatry. Shiite, they would have to be annihilated where they would have to leave. So its an existential threat to a lot of people that dont live in the ideology. So how to counter it . If i knew the answer i would get a lot of money for that. How to conquer isis ideology. Like i told you its almost too late when someone starts buying into the isis ideology discourse. Before that its difficult because a lot of parents tell me that they were surprised that their sons joined isis. One of them for example and i should cite in the book the child would use an application. I dont know of anyone involved in prodemocracy activism the application is very useful for countries in the middle east. So you dont the government cannot monitor the application. With a application does basically as it turns a smartphone or a phone into a walkietalkie and you can start to listen to sermons from isis and the territories and you can listen to them from your home. You dont have to have access to the internet or social media or that sort of thing. A lot of parents for example one parent said he found his son listening to these sermons. He said dont listen to these people. They are deviant and the child would say im curious about it. I dont like them so a few months later he disappeared and joined isis and called his parents from the borders of iraq and he said im with the brothers. Its difficult to do it after that. On a personal note while i was writing the book and researching it i feared from my own son. How can you prevent, how can you make sure that this person wont join groups like back . Its really hard to kind of predict who can join isis. One last question. Isis is a threat for central asia . Is a threat for anywhere i am not an expert on central asia but i know a lot of Central Asian asians are in syria and iraq come from different countries. In terms of symbolism for isis they have this discourse which is an area that historically used to be controlled by muslims muslims. It used to be a center for a lot of movements which is in central asia. Al qaeda appeal to them and isis appeal to them but i dont claim to be an expert. Up next Erick Stakelbeck post a terrorism analyst for the Christian Broadcasting Network talks about the appeal will isis in the middle east in the front the organization poses to People Living in the United States. A positive. Thank you for coming out tonight. First i want to thank my good friend sarah stern. I consider sarah a modernday deborah for our times, for such a time as this. Ive said it before and i have to tell you at the endowment im here in the belly of the beast in washington d. C. I get to see what am it does and what sarah doesnt close the tireless work for israel or america on capitol hill where it really counts. They are making a difference for everyone at home as well check out amit on line. Org. A great important organization. I have to give everyone here credit for coming out tonight. Theyre easier more smoothing and soothing and relaxing things to do then hes coming to hear about isis. God bless my wife and she is here some place in the room. I see her in the back of thing. We talk about this issue. We talk about isis and this is my third book. Every night in my head hit the pillow writing this book over a fivemonth span it was very condensed. I would be thinking about isis and i would have to share with someone. How about my significant other . Beheadings burnings lighter fare, keeping the marriage together but i would say to her laurie would you rather know or not know at the end of the day and she said i would rather know but you are sleeping on the couch tonight. [laughter] so without further ado folks thank you so much for coming first of all. Secondly i want you to know im going to focus on tonight. We are in america in the United States. They really want to focus here on what isis come its supporters come its sympathizers are doing here on american soil. I think thats very important. A lot of times americans today are kind of zoned out. The kardashians are in the tube. The game is on someone just texted me. Im dealing with too. Maybe not the kardashians but the rest of it im guilty of ide. That look the way you get peoples attention and our great country is to make a real and immediate and to let them know its in their backyard. A lot of times americans say look why should i care about what happens in the middle east thousands of miles away . It doesnt affect me. I will give you an example of how it does affect all of us right here in the United States. Just last month recently the fbi director james comey made a very stunning statement. He said that in all 50 u. S. States today we have a network of isis supporters and sympathizers. The fbi director said that in all 50 states in the union we have investigations ongoing right now into isis related at to these. So folks with the fbi director was saying is that the barbarians are not just at the gates, they are inside the gates. We are going to get into that tonight. But lets start with a quick overview of isis in this Islamic State that has wreaked so much havoc throughout the middle east and throughout the world over the past year. Right now i says the Islamic State of iraq and syria control some 35000 square miles of territory in the very heart of the middle east. Thats an area the size of great britain, astounding. Jv team mind you. We will talk about that briefly. 35,000 square miles in the middle of the middle east. They declared a caliphate an Islamic State. This is the great dream of every Islamic Jihad is group from the muslim brother to al qaeda to isis and so on and so on. They go about it in different ways. The tactics differ as we will discuss but at the end of the day remember the endgame is the same the caliphate and islamic sharia law for one and all whether you like it or not. So they declared a caliphate. The caliphate has returned and it made isis more than just a terrorist group. Its made them a global phenomenon. Ladies and gentlemen this is not al qaeda or hamas and that is bad and thats lethal enough. I sais again has declared a state and a pivotal part of the world. Not only that they are 30 to 40,000 welltrained welltrained fanatical foot soldiers. Basically they have a Standing Army. And they are global. The cia director john brennan said recently that isis recruits are coming from 90 countries around the world including the United States. 90 countries. And american airstrikes have not stemmed the flow the flow of jihadists from every corner of the globe continues. They are circuiting through our friend and ally turkey many times. I say that with air quotes when i talk about turkey being a friend and ally these days but its happening. This is a global phenomenon. This is a movement. Jihadists around the world have galvanized and the caliphate has been declared. Here in the west and the United States some 180 u. S. Citizens have left their comfortable existence and the most prosperous country in the history of the world and they have gone to the caliphate. Some 35 hundred western europeans at least. That number is probably much higher but according to most estimates at least 3500 western europeans, brits, french, germans, swedes, danes have less comfortable western europe and traveled to the caliphate in iraq and syria. Ladies and gentlemen, heres the key point about that for everyone watching here in america. If they dont get killed these westerners are waging jihad overseas one day they will return home. These are u. S. Citizens coming u. S. Passport holders and when they return home fresh off sawing off someones head in the middle east, theyre probably not going to transition peacefully back into civilian life. Maybe get a job at a gas station. No, the jihad will come here. Ice is right now is calling on its followers. They are saying hey come to the caliphate establish this utopian Islamic Society but its also good bank if you stay put in chicago, new york london berlin. Ice calls them city wolves. City wolves and theyre telling them to rise up on american soil. You can be a oneman jihad in your own backyard. Think of fort hood. Think of the boston bombings. Think of paris back in january 2015. Look folks, in paris perfect example of what im talking about. Two wellarmed jihadists, brothers. They had trained in yemen with al qaeda and returned home to france and they wreak havoc. They killed 17 people. Among those 17 was not coincidentally a number of jewish and a jewish deli. They were targeted as they were jewish. Make no mistake about it. It was not a coincidence. 17 People Killed by two wellarmed jihadists capture world attention dominate that the global media cycle for a better part of the week its fired a massive antiterror march in paris which president obama skipped. Message sent. Ladies and gentlemen translate what happened in paris here to american soil. Do you really think it cant happen here . Did we not see the boston bombings in may 2013 . Again brothers, two wellarmed welltrained terrorists to a degree actually relatively amateurish and in all killed four people, wounded over 200 more and again capture the global media cycle and even more importantly and more chilling i think for us a major American City the city of boston was shut down for the better part of a week. Two men were able to do that. Ladies and gentlemen think of the mumbai attacks in november 2008. They ruined a lot of our thanksgivings that we can. 10 welltrained terrorists young. These guys were in their early 20s mostly im able one i believe in his late teens. They fanned out across the city of mom buy one of the largest cities in the world millions of people live there in india. They fanned out with assault rifles and bombs in their backpacks and a wreaked absolute havoc. They laid siege to one of the Worlds Largest cities just 10 men with assault rifles and some bombs. They siege to one of the worlds biggest cities for the better part of the week again the media cycle was completely dominated by this. They killed dozens and dozens of people. Could you see that in god forbid Middle America . Because thats the goal and im not an alarmist and im not a sensationalist. This is what isis is saying. They are calling again on americans to rise up and be city wolves and their words. Folks, the game plan in the strategy for us as i outlined in the book is to turn the United States and western europe into guerrilla war zones where you are seeing a fort hood style attack it often bombing style attack a paris style attack on american and european soil on a regular basis. We had an inkling of that in october of 2014. The sequence of events actually began in in late september 2014 and ending in october. A sequence of events beginning in late september of 2014 when an isis sympathizer and rural oklahoma of all places his coworker, a grandmother. Now on his Facebook Page and in his on line ravings he spoke in favor of 9 11 proal qaeda, proisis. He is pictured giving isis the one finger salute. Yet the fbi deemed it Workplace Violence at the end of the day. Sounds familiar. I believe something happened in fort hood of years ago. Was also a case of work place violence so our government said. This poor woman a grandmother and rural oklahoma was by an Islamic Radical and it went on. In the ensuing weeks we saw in ottawa canada one blown jihadist stormed the Canadian Parliament where the Prime Minister often is in canada. Then we had a hatchet wielding jihadists madmen isis sympathizer tak group of new York City Police officers with a hatchet. Again, a city wolves. That was in the span of about three weeks in the fall of 2014. Isis wants to create a situation on american soil where you are looking over your shoulder. It will give you a great example, a chilling example. In Sydney Australia down under in september 2014 an isis plot was broken up, a plot devised by isis supporters. What they wanted to do was randomly kidnap someone off the streets of Sydney Australia some poor soul with a cup of coffee in his hand walking to the bus doing his morning commute. They planned to kidnap him and saw his head off or her head off for the cameras. A great propaganda victory. Thankfully it was broken up but again this is the definition of terror where you never know whats going to hit you, when its going to hate you or who is going to hate you but rest assured when they do hit you got for bed that will probably be shouting allah akbar and by the way doesnt take a brain surgeon to walk into a Shopping Mall and yell and start firing. The fbi director his words not mine, his words if he saying we have a network of isis sympathizers and supporters and all 50 states including alaska and hawaii then we have serious trouble here. Its a big problem and again im not being an alarmist because ive done my homework. Ive done the research. Ive seen it with my own two eyes. I documented in the book. You want to know about ice is recruiting how they are attracting americans well i have a chapter in the book called the Islamic State of minnesota. Kind of tongueincheek but kind of not. I spent time on the ground over the years in minnesota and look in the frozen tundra of the upper midwest a great place to live a prosperous state very highquality of living, a beautiful place but the twin cities of minneapolis and st. Paul of all places have really become jihad central and United States. People at home and people in this room are probably shaking their heads and saying minnesota . I can see new york city chicago, los angeles. Minnesota . Yes, minnesota. Minnesota has the largest somali Muslim Population in all of north america. At least 100,000 somali muslims live in the twin cities of minneapolis and st. Paul. Thats going to shock a lot of americans to hear that. Not every somali issa terrace obviously but we have a serious problem in that community here in the United States with Islamic Radicalism. Dozens of somali muslims u. S. Citizens by the way he lived in the twin cities have traveled overseas or the past few years and join terrorist groups like isis. More than any other state, city and the entire country. Minnesota and in particular that somali Muslim Population. Another reason that alarms me is number one they may return home welltrained fanatical. We had a thread just a short time ago by a somali terror group called alshabaab linked to al qaeda calling for attacks on the mall of america in minneapolis. The largest Shopping Mall in the country. And if you have that large radicalized population living within the shadow of the Shopping Mall you may have a problem. Dozens, thats astounding, dozens of u. S. Citizens from the same metropolitan area on overseas to join terror groups the worst of the worst, isis. Now folks that alarms me also because look it seems to be following the european model. I documented the book the horrific problems western europe is having in britain france germany and sweden have all places where a large number of muslim immigrants are coming to these countries. And they are not assimilating and theyre not integrating. And they are forming almost self segregating types of societies. I know because i have walked in these neighborhoods and i documented it in the book. Its happening. The europeans have not encouraged assimilation. They have encouraged multiculturalism and for new arrivals to keep their culture. It sounds great in theory but in practice its disastrous. If we go down that road here in the United States, we have big problems. And i fear that we are seeing that to a degree and again im not trying to paint a broad rush. I have met of lot of good Somali Community leaders have worked with me on this issue to give me great great information walked me through whats going on but if we have Serious Problems in that community with assimilation and integration we have got to be on top of it. We cant have droves of people from American Communities joining terror groups. We just cant. I spoke to a Law Enforcement source a very plugin guy on the ground worked for years and years in the city of st. Paul. I asked him how the recruitment process works. I think this is one of the most fascinating aspects of the book and frankly chilling but an eyeopening discussion. You will be a glorious holy warrior and 18, 19 20 yearold kid fresh at school and appealing message. It could be an appealing message. Its working. Its resonating. On the ground aspec