I keep running into lean in, lean in, lean in within google. I should work better. Its a real treat for me. I owe my career to eric. He was the first person who hired me when many people wouldnt. Its worked out so well. Youve done so much better since he left google. Cannot we talk about the slot. Everyone needs one mentors and im so grateful. When i first came to facebook and he is friends with our head of product, chris cox. He said versus what to and he totally gets it. He runs around the world tried to get other people to get it. Hes been avoid super important to her industry and technology. Excited to be here at both of you. What started the beginning. Youre both fairly busy dudes. I mean, jobs, jobs. Its not even that obvious you would know each other that well. Lets tell the story. How did you meet in what would possess you to sit down and write this . My friend dawn wanted to visit a son who is fighting in iraq so i went along. I figured thanksgiving in iraq with the troops would be interesting. So we show up in baghdad. We were the first people to show up on a commercial flight, sort of got lost in the air work with the marines on the other side. Story that that. Okay. So you need. Because suicide is an interesting visit among the tech videos and i remember playing the videos when i got home and all i heard was jerrys voice talk, talk, talk. No, he just tapped. When i remembered that kerry put it to the airport. Normally when you arrive and not do the cards anyway very eager to get out of there. And erics case they at the jacket on him and they are ready for a to go. Before he will leave the airport took green zone tickets have been indepth history of the jack. Its not because he was worried about safety and security. Its because its a scientist wants to understand the history of blackjack. I was teaching its history to that move from over there . Why does that attacked cert parts of me . Was dared answer to that . Not one were willing to reveal. The lesson of the experiences when you travel that were suddenly somebody you become close with them. Somewhere between 40 and 45 countries together. Paraquat eric wanted stability, nice hotels. Jerry does not like to go to normal places. Hes never been to south korea and u. S. To go to north korea. Theres only one place i can convince eric to, that is somalia. Theres no hotel at all. Spinnaker governments or banks or institutions. Thats true. And still not going. Is the one place that i think im going to go back. Shocking. Is a good associate to over the worlds newest injury. 98 necessity of its revenue comes from oil and the government in khartoum has basically cut off the pipeline and they basically no money, no rows, no police force, nothing. What are they choose to do quick spin their entire time had a nice day the Android Devices come asking if we can beat docs for them. Priorities. One of those guys is a rebel president. Its unclear whether hes involved in government. So youre watching the and listening to jareds voice on this mix too much red about . I eventually talked to jerry. We met in new york. He said i want to write a book. That sounds pretty interesting to me because it turns out the Foreign Policy people dont understand Tech Knowledge and Technology People dont understand Foreign Policy and i certainly dont understand Foreign Policy. Ran around to be shocked about how miserable most of those lies are. We take the Wonderful World around us from ran it. Were very fortunate. Midwicket takes these problems. Book starts out with tuples tendencies. Eric, this is a hard one for me to breathe. He writes a book of essays the internet is among the few scenes humans have built they dont truly be in. I know i dont understand the internet, but i felt very cert mu did. To be honest, if you dont understand the internet, im pretty sure no one does. Thats a little concerning. But he mainly dont understand . Within a half a mile of her fiscal count on it constantly supplies and i understand it and then send an wild and wacky concept. Remember thinking things are really boring and i kind of understand it all and knows the month i saw the mosaic or at the time. People are enormously creative come in nervously surprising. Theyre not utilitarian and follow rules and so forth is the one. The internet is the first time we can hear all of them at once. But the next 10 or 20 years, we are going to see more great surprises in the bad surprises. All of us here in this room live with this. Whats that worth 16 . Just as an example. Not relevant to todays discussion. Sorry, cheryl. Low blow. The book is actually amazing. The internet is the Largest Experience involving anarchy. You are a student and scholar and practitioner what a Civil Society that is democracy in state. Why has this anarchy . If you think about the definition of anarchy in the context of international relations, as claimed around the idea that even though every piece of territory on earth will be carved up into sovereign territory, the world is not governed up on this and theres no sensible leadership. If you fast forward, every attempt the world has made to create a vocal leadership body has basically been rendered ineffective. Then you look at the internet. And think about the tribal states are already having an dealing with this mass migration. Then yet another 5 Million People in cyberspace. Controlling the entire thing controlling the physical territory. Ive got to do with globalization, issues of free speech, issues of morality and communications. What do we do when sending data sat name. Weve been talking about this. Maybe there are limits to what we can do. Maybe there are some problems we can do. Are made be limits. Would describe the internet as the Worlds Largest ungoverned space. Think about the instrument of state power, economic power, and federate. They dont really work as effectively as they do. The International System of sovereign states you can have different legal jurisdictions guarded by the public that they can integrate down his worlds come online. Whats interesting is that it does to disrupt the power the world. One of the arguments we make in the book is states will have their physical power based on traditional instruments we discussed before. States may be a cyberpower in the online world but in fact its very physically weak. If you look at estonia and sweden, two companies function way above their weight in a world completely connected. After that and driven about Foreign Policy, mostly because sherry talked a lot. I concluded Foreign Policy has not changed a lot time. We have these realists and progressives and so forth. What is in fact knew is the empowerment provided to citizens. The ability to essentially lead to published is generally nothing can put back in the box. Its essentially a static world of Foreign Policy. He said is very full day here. The internet cant fix everything. Many people in this audience are steeply risen to power of the technology can do bringing it to my people. Your book focuses on what happens in another 5 billion people, mind. Many people in our audience are focused. Limitations is interesting and not tempting they often do. But at this limitations . Its always a shock there are some limits to rmi process. [inaudible] has spread. That was a joke by the way. Please dont treat that. I get in trouble. Sheryl gets in trouble. We are friends here. Where the boundaries . When does the internet stop and robots that have been . The answer is that youve got a civil war like in syria or possibly whats going on in ukraine were saturday which jared can really talk about. Infix entertainment and access information and entertainment. We fixed the empowerment of women when theyre treated poorly. We can fix corruption and so forth, but there is a threshold. Weve been having this debate bestiary. How would you fix jerry . Syria in ukraine offer two examples of it but it exists. If you look at syria company of 150,000 people have been killed in the millions of refugees across the border. Chemical weapons use that we know us. If theres no shortage of videos coming out of syria. Each one of those is more horrific than the one before it. The government is setting up check points to see what exists on the various profiles. Talk about this. Chariot was just in syria. You actually should go to syria for a variety of reasons. I saw friends of mine i had seen in nine years and provide some context. And all of a sudden their throat starts to itch, they keep dizzy and collapsed. Fortunately somebody came in the other room to close the window. The chemical weapons had come in and affected 10 minutes at them a full month and have to find out what happened because of the information. They go on to tell me a story about how in damascus and the big cities the government set up check points in the hold up into your head and ask for your login information, et cetera. If they dont like what they see, they signal up to somebody at top of the building and ordered them to shoot. My friends brother was shot in the head because some of the sound of the phone. Youre left with the realization that syria needs a humanitarian intervention but it also means to samantha that it is for cybersecurity conscious and aware of these things. The other day cometh syrians pride that was going on. They are caught in the crossfire. This horrific tragedy dont understand authentication. They dont understand why they should use the phone browser and all these different things. Theres a real question we as technologists who are geopolitically waiting to address which is how we make sure the average citizen is secured online even if not physically secure. We use the example of smalley appeared to match them for discussion the government is better now. Imagine no government at all for a while. Imagine the industry which is 11 of lawless somalia and everyone has smartphones. Nothing else. The smartphone becomes even more important. Its how you get an alert. Its a safe route. Schoolgirls used google maps to get to school safely. Think about the importance of the smartphone. Snowmageddon your smartphone is taken by somebody and now theyve got your contact this company are friends. They can impersonate you come so forth. These are very weighty issues. It is interesting. When you think back at the atrocity committed in the history, people didnt know. Had we known, we wouldve intervened. If i can just ask you, cheryl, they set out the philanthropic social consciousness that others in the company spent a lot of time talking about development, growth rates. Basically problems of the third world. It seems to be since he started back, things have gotten better. The other issues havent gotten fixed. No, that is the striking thing. You see your point the internet cant fix everything. This is a big honor, but general and and deborah d. Is here with us today. Shes the first woman who became the first our general and the u. S. Military. Its an honor to have her. [applause] becoming a dear friend of mine is exciting. Lets talk about how this affects the military. You show up in baghdad. They keep you afloat jacket but it wasnt sufficient. Ill come up one other day next nine why they are plaintively they are. How does this affect the military . My Immediate Reaction was we are still fighting the wars the old way rather than the new way. All of our interventions to basically involves trying to do with the citizens. What is the best thing you can do for citizens to empower them . Was the best the military can do to build them towers in a recently protective fiber of the networks that they could learn whats going on, empower themselves come to figure out the previous state tatars lying to them. Get all the facts and develop whatever society theyre going to develop along with the economy and so forth. This is the last thing the military does. So one simple and there would be since almost all of firefighting ultimately seems to involve civilians that can turn against us, jerry talks about how the internet can change the perception of people. Theyre in a religious school. Theres no doubt speared one of the things the internet can do is empower individuals with the natural strength of society to come out. By that we built this Wireless Networks . In iraq, we came to learn saddam has not allowed people to use cell phones. So after he was essentially hiding, they started using cell phones. We learned her about when we were there that cards were about 5000. After we are there less than that they lower the price best in price from 5000 to 5 in the phone system fallow for with overcapacity. If i could chime in on the military side, we interviewed a group of navy seals and we ask them what is the ideal type knowledge he could not in combat . Things acrobatic dolphins another weird things. They said we dont need a new tape lg develop it. What we need is procurement cycles to change so they can bring the iphone for android into combat. One of my friends told me that right now when he has to jump out of the plane come he literally cant you know, they have a battery they state that lasts an hour and a half. Theyre not able to use overthecounter technologies in combat. The second issue is the militaryindustrial calm blacks as they is a political aspect of our military, where the real challenge in the same cybersecurity is not a cheater that agility that agility is compromised by a traditional wave this security cycle is worth. If you think about traditional military systems, yours, tanks, various weapons, when are we going to get to a point where providing cyberassistance to countries being attacked by more powerful countries that are not just a physical neighbors adversaries many comments over. What should we do . They are trying, organizing to cyberattacks at western targets. Are they serious target . Is there some Digital Strategy . I dont know, but that needs to be in the conversation. Foreign fighters across the globe to fight in the civil war is the area on one side or the other. By the way, a third of those are coming from europe benefit of those from europe and it really is a global problem. What had never seen until series of missions are not coming to fight the physical work. They literally send Software Engineers to fight on behalf of the army and sometimes physically, sometimes fighting presumably with iran. Whats new for the military focus to the economy . One of the things that happens at the advent of the technology and so much progress and efficiency as its a real crisis all over the world, particularly for the youth. How do you think about both of you, and eric particularly because from my time at google you care deeply not just about google as a company, but the impact google has on the world. Youve done an amazing job. We all want to pass that. How do you think about i know you travel. How do you think probably about the Impact Technology has sent johnson particularly began to play throughout europe, throughout asia . Problem is going to be defining problem for the most of the rest of his eyes. To talk about ukraine in syria and so forth we live and work and roughly speaking for the last decade or so theres been quite a displacement because of automation. It is now well documented any fewer people to build the car. The advances in artificial touching the computers, the problem does work for knowledge workers who have relatively repetitive jobs. It turns out to be a lot of such categories. Corporations if you look in the United States is a classic example or substituting essentially they prefer capitalism. They are investing ahead and the people who went went in this process tend to to beating comments. They tend to be middleaged and they tend to be the elite. If you bottle up going forward, have a very significant problem because the lack of jobs. There are economists who believe there will be jobs and we dont have a jobless problem, but it could transfer of middleclass high jobs to service jobs. They do this says that the word driver. A talented person laid off for something that happened. Now they have contingent employment than i do the best they can and theres plenty examples of that. Most economic guy says jobs would be less predict bull for young people were contingent and so forth. The separate set of policy issues because in the distribution you need some kind of a safety net. He basically cant have people on the street. Its not okay. In europe you have the problems affect only worse for the reasons you can imagine. Lactose job, lack of global competition, so forth. So it talking and this is something ive been working on for this year, theres a couple of solutions and theyre not good enough. I would ask everybody hears about me think about how we solve this problem. Especially for the next generation, it is our problem, too. The first is you got to fix education. Youre going to have to have a more educated workforce because the uneducated jobs are out. We watch this happening everywhere. The next thing you have to do, by the way, you and i were smart or market a similar speech last summer. I know that mark agrees with me on this. The second thing is to focus on in croatia. Not because we want to replace the current workers to divert workers but theres a lot of correlation with great outcomes from allowing innovation. The other is conductivity. The fourth one missed his youve got to create an environment where comments cant block the entrance. You have to have a place, someplace where startups can flourish, with the regulators will kill them. He said. Faced with obvious . Most industries are highly regulated and without passing judgment the regulators and the break you ladies have gotten to know each other really well and the new startup, the incumbents, theyre not at the table. An awful lot of regulations tend to favor the common. Youve got to fix that. This may not be sufficient, but im sure the list i just gave you is. Theres no doubt. One more thing. Here we have censored china. Tremendous success, great job. Imagine were having a conversation about china in 20 years. Look at the demographic trends, disasters and all of that and then we look at the automation trends and realize a couple hundred Million Peoples jobs, which are in these manufacturing sites are replaced by robot. What are you going to do . Its not just a u. S. Problem. Said there is also benefit to technology and some of them are personal. The first chapter is our future selves. Therell be no alarm clock in your wakeup routine. At least not in the traditional sense. Instead, youll be roused by the aroma of freshly br