Isis about the rules of engagement of u. S. Forces in iraq and syria. Washington journal is live at 7 00 a. M. Eastern on cspan. Cspan takes on the road to the white house, with the best access to the candidates, town hall meetings, speeches, rallies, meet and greets, we are taking your comments on twitter, facebook, and by phone. As always, every Campaign Event we cover is as always, every Campaign Event we cover is available on our website, cspan. Org. Primary voters go to the polls in New Hampshire on february 9. Up next, republican senator rand paul campaigns and exeter which is located in the southeast part of the granite state. Senator paul talked about executive power and u. S. Military intervention. [applause]. Stands he has taken. I know you are a too. Youre here tonight and you support the stand that he has taken. When he decided to run for the u. S. Senate six years ago i have to admit i wasnt very excited at first. The idea of a political life is a bit daunting for me but rand really wants to make a difference. He wanted to stand for an individual against a bloated government that had really strayed from its original Core Principles and founding principles. So he felt like he could make a difference and he could. I feel like he was already making a difference in Bowling Green. I dont know how many of you know that rand is a surgeon. Hes an incredibly caring physician and in Bowling Green he was living out those principles. In 1993 at only 30 years old when we first moved there said they founded the southern Kentucky Alliance clinic to provide surgery and glasses to uninsured patients. As a 30yearold he was living out the idea that said individuals and local government and local people provide better care and other services to people than bloated faceless government bureaucracy. [applause] rand also got involved with another physician friend in Bowling Green at that time. His wife was an attorney and a brought children from all over the world, many of them from guatemala and sub tree did surgery on those kids. Through the years, these kids had horrific congenital disease that he was always someone that gave back and i felt like he was giving bad. Even now in the senate he continues to do that. Just last week at home on his christmas break he did surgery in paducah for uninsured patients in kentucky and continues to go back to haiti and guatemala. Just two years ago he saw children that he operated on 15 years ago they came to see him grownup bringing their own kids and they were excited to bring their kids, to introduce them to dr. Pablo. I think that speaks to the heart of few rand is and what he represents. I have always been proud of sub three as a doctor and a u. S. Senator and the way hes run his campaign. He wants to be the one man standing there against perpetual war and against some the things the other republicans are talking about. Im incredibly proud of them as they were senator and a husband and father. Years ago i told them you are brave and you inspire that in other so i would just like to introduce my husband, rand paul. [applause] [applause] thank you. Thank you. I get to go to if you political barbecues in my time and is starting to show a little bit but i was at a barbecue the other day in paducah kentucky and the guy in front of me had two big plates of food. I was like you are going to live long eating like that and he said my grandfather lived to be 105. I said your granddad didnt live to 105 eating like that and he said no my grandfather lived to 105 by minding his own business. [laughter] [applause] sometimes i wish my government or minding its own business and leaving me alone to Practice Medicine leaving us alone in our businesses, leaving us alone in our families, leaving us alone in our church, just leaving us alone are the most part. I want to the government to defend the country. Maybe we can build a few roads. I want a small government. I dont want the government. I want a government that leaves us alone to prosper. Thats how they became the richest frias nation ever. I want to get one controversy out of the way though. There has been a controversy about him its entered into our household all the way out in kentucky. In my household i come home from a long trip campaigning and i look up and in my bedroom on the shelf, on the dresser drawers and looking at it from my bed, picture of my wife and tom brady. [laughter] we were at the Kentucky Derby and she had her picture taken. So thats okay, you can have your picture taken with him but thats it. And i get get home and theres a picture in my bedroom of her with tom brady. I said its got to go. Its got to go so the next thing i know its in the sunroom. Its down in the sun room for a while. We go out to dinner become ominous god. All thats there is the frame. Kelly is a big fan of tom brady. My son im not so sure bubba got the picture picture back and we have matrimonial harmony and im not going to give you my opinion on anything having to the patriots. I do believe our government has grown too large and if you want to see evidence of that we borrow a Million Dollars a minute. We have a 19 trilliondollar debt. What does that mean . Are they just numbers . 19 billion. We owe china 1 trillion we all japan 1 trillion we all mexico 100 million. For goodness sakes whats wrong . We are the freest richest greatest country and whats going on . I think we have lost our way in many ways in his office at . Is that the democrats fault . Is that the republicans fault . Its both parties. Both parties have failed us. Ill parties are spending us into oblivion. One side doesnt give money unless they promise money to the other side. The right one wants money for one thing and the other side wants money for Something Else and everybody wants to spend money and to get stuck with the bill. Economists say that we are losing a million jobs a year because of the burden of debt. We have got to pay for it somehow. We can either tax you more. This is the rubbing government. Everyone wants something from government but no one wants or taxes to go up. Instead we either borrow it or we make it. We have a Printing Press in washington. As we printed up what happens is sort of a form of theft. Theft is we steal a little better the value of your dollar. Heres the little secret that ernie wont tell you when he comes to town. When you offer people stuff for free its not really free. If you pay for the free stuff you want to give the people you printing more money each unit of value loses its value and prices go up. So who gets heard worse by rising prices . The same people bernie wants to byebye giving them free stuff. We offer free stuff and we say you are going to have a better life because im going to give you something for free but we paid for by printing money and then when nico to buy companies and better off because the government gave me a cell phone and the government gave me this but then you find out my food costs more. Everything in my life seems to cost more. Many look at the overall statistics of how good it a job government is doing is poverty doesnt seem to be working. We have had poverty, their size than some degree of poverty and we have had a war on poverty since the 60s. I think poverty is winning. We still have a great deal of poverty but now we have a nation thats begun to have sort of an ankle and while we are driving around around. A once great nation is slowing down. The economy isnt growing like it was. The jobs he could have when you got out of high school or college and you had job for a career they dont seem to exist. We have a certain malaise among College Students who say oh my goodness ive got all these loans and im not so sure my job is going to pay for that. What do we do to fix that . Its not enough to bemoan it and say what went wrong and had we fixed the . For starters we have the highest taxes in the world. The Corporate Income taxes 35 in our country. The highest tax in the world so when you are company where you want to go . Where the taxes are lower. In canada the taxes are 15 for businesses. Burger king reincorporated in canada last year. They are emerging and are going to reemerged there. Even in france and germany all these European Countries that are much more socialized than we are they have lower corporate tax. Money goes where its welcome. Business goes where its welcome but how to get to to lower taxes in this country . You have to say you dont want everything for free and you dont want an enormous government. If you dont what we have have . Your government will continue to grow but business will continue to leave that its going to be a problem. Its already beginning to be a problem. So what happens is we get those sides going back and forth. Bernie will tell you we must ask ask ask those evil corporations because they are getting rich. Has everything worked for person qnexa thing is we are on the same site. Someone owns your company and you are 10 thousand in line you make money when the Company Makes money. If the companies no longer are you not know longer have the job. We have to consider whether or not we are all connected and whether or not something helps a Business Owner as well as employee. Your taxes are chipping business away. There regulations are chipping business away and its getting worse by the fact that we have allowed our government now to operate by executive fiat read what does it mean . The president is doing whatever he wants. The president has a Republican Congress city is just riding executive orders. Our Founding Fathers would be horrified by this and people say theres gridlock. We have got to do something so the president should just do it. The problem with that is its not consistent with our founding principles. It would be difficult to pass legislation and you have to achieve consensus. Thats one of the philosophers. Montesquieu said about checks and balances when the executive begins to legislate the form of tyranny will ensue. No one is stopping the president thats not intended. In fact the Founding Fathers were very fearful. They worried that the presidency could evolve into monikers monarchy so they wanted to limit the presidency. The same goes with regard to war. Many brave young men who have served in one of the main charities we work on is building households for our civilian wounded veterans. Do you know what the Founding Fathers did quickly taken away from the president. The president is not allowed to initiate war and yet it seems president s are initiating war on both sides of the aisle. We at a worm libya of kinetic action. Thats a euphemism if ive ever heard one but we have toppled gadhafi. This is a big question. The most important question i for the first time in a long time i dont think this is occurring on all sides. I have to take medication for my stomach to watch that debate. We really had a debate about whether the idea of regime change is a good idea. What does regime change mean . It means somehow people have gotten the notion that our Foreign Policy should be that we should be in charge of deciding whos in charge of Different Countries in the middle east. We want to pick people who we think will do a better job. We have this proposition for some people do, we have a that if you topple Saddam Hussein that Thomas Jefferson will be elected. [laughter] i think that may be naive. So i disagreed with members of my party when we went to war. I felt like if Saddam Hussein were toppled we are sure and sure enough theyre still chaos. We are 14 or 15 years out from the iraq war and there was an ensuing civil war they were sort of a piece but the problem is you look at it in the grand scheme of things iran is also potential enemy for us. They are stronger. Is iraq grateful for the 5000 young men and women american young women and men who died for the trillion dollars who spent their . The gratitude has been expressed in a strange way. Their best allies are iran. Iraq and iran are bosom buddies now and whos their secondbest friend . Russia. So we liberated a country that is now looking to iran and looking to russia and its a country now that is completely dysfunctional and probably will never be country again if it ever was a country. You have these factions in iraq but have never liked each other to the sunni and the shiites have been fighting, they still remember the battle of karbala. People here are concerned with what Britney Spears is wearing or not wearing. Over there they are still mad about a massacre at a mosque in 832 a. D. They have a long memory over there of history. The midst of the sunni and the shiites the government we were supporting in baghdad, all the sunni towns which are now occupied by isis. They didnt like the shiites. They dont like us. They are not ever going to accept a peace that comes from the outside. While i can see the menace if you want isis to be defeated and you dont want him to slither off a new formation of himself the campy americans. It cant be shiite. It has to be somebody from tikrit. People who defeat them, the people that can look them in the eye and eliminate isis have to be fellow sunni muslims. This is something we have to understand. We also want a commanderinchief who isnt rep was, who isnt just gung ho that war wars the first resort, not the last resort. Think about what we have been hearing in the debate. We had a debate about a couple of weeks ago and i asked the businessman from new york, dont want to get too specific or they asked him about the Nuclear Triad to the Nuclear Triad we have common Nuclear Weapons that can be launched from land, sea and air. We have three forms of how we can have the defense. Its never been thought of as sort of like we are going to be eager to use it. Its a mutual deterrence with the other superpower to have Nuclear Weapons. Trump didnt appear to know what was it was but when he became aware of what was, he came on national tv and she said our mistake is that we havent been willing enough to use their nuclear arsenal. 30 to 40 of the Republican Party could be considering someone who is eager to use Nuclear Weapons as a leader. That should scare us to death. Meanwhile there has been another debate. The other debate has been an everybody wants to appear strong they will show you how strong they are by how eager they are to go to war. So they all were saying hillary went on one side rubio bush fiorina, christie are all saying we need a nofly zone over there and i will enforce the nofly zone. I was thinking of implications of a nofly zone. A nofly zone means people are flying in that zone. The problem is in that nofly zone first already flies. Thats the way the world exists at this moment. Russia flies in that zone because iran and iraq invited them in syria invited them into that zone. They have also had a longtime base and presence in serious to when you say i thought i would shame them into realizing they might have world war iii if you are going to promise to shoot anybody down and sure enough i looked at christie next to me and hes going absolutely i will shoot them down and kill them and shoot them down. We have to think of the implications of having a leader is eager to shoot down russian planes. It doesnt mean we should be anybodys patsy in the week. Reagan believed in peace through strength but reagan also talk to the russians. Carly fiorina said she wont talk to the russians. Thats ridiculous. In fact the russians for as much as they do things that are distasteful are probably part of the solution in syria. He will not get a ceasefire when you talk to russia. He probably in all likelihood if you make the preconditions assad has to go not get a ceasefire in syria. This is a complicated thing of the Syrian Civil War. The Syrian Civil War involves assad and islamic radicals on the other side. And some moderates mixed in there as will the predominately Isis Al Qaeda alnusra radical Islamic Forces on both sides come on the one side. There are two main christians that live in syria. Who did they side with . To a person who will tell you a seib so mccain and rubio all these people that are eager for war in the middle east want to topple assad. I dont understand fighting in both sides of the war. They want to bomb assad and palm isis. What does that mean . What is carpet bombing mean . It means indiscriminate bombing. The thing is to think there will be more or less terrorists when we are done . We will kill quite a few and the ones in her midst will raise another generation of terrorists. We have to protect ourselves. Have to protect ourselves from us to want to visit. We have to protect the most want to come and kill us but we have to think through what we are doing in the middle east. If theres one truth in the middle east exactly may have toppled secular dictators we have gotten chaos and the rise of radical islam. In libya theres a failed state. Our ambassador was killed, or embassy was overrun and the jihadist women are swimming pool. Im not kidding, these women are swimming pool. Its a failed state and a third of libya says to pledge allegiance not to isis. Are we better off or worse off with gadhafi gone . Sometimes the civil wars there are variations of evil on both sides. I think we have to get away from this utopian notion that Thomas Jefferson is going to be elected to the middle east. I think what happens is they have known despotism on one side or the other and is hopeful someday they will know the freedom we know. Its not going to come from the outside. You will have to come from them. I dont think we have been successful at trying to create some sort of democracy or utopia. We need to be concerned with