Transcripts For CSPAN2 Erick Stakelbeck On ISIS Exposed 2015

CSPAN2 Erick Stakelbeck On ISIS Exposed April 26, 2015

Talk about isis. Every night with my head hit the pillow fight in this book over a fivemonth span is very condensed it be thinking about isis and i have to share with someone. How about my significant other. Beheadings, burnings, keeping the marriage together. I say lori, would you rather go or not know at the end of the day. She said i would rather know. But you are sleeping on the couch tonight. [laughter] without further ado, thank you so much for coming first of all. Secondly, i want to take it in america. I want to focus on what sympathizers do. A lot of americans today i found out. The car unions are on the two. Someone just texted me. The rest of it i am guilty of. The way you get peoples attention in our great country is to make it real and immediate end to let them know it is in their backyard. A lot of times americans say why should i care about what happens in the middle east thousands of miles away. It doesnt affect me. I give you an example how it affects all of us in the United States. Last month recently the fbi director james they made a stunning statement. He said it now 50 u. S. States today we have a map work of isis supporters and sympathizers. The fbi director said in all 50 states in the union we have investigations ongoing right now into isis related out today. So folks what the fbi director was saying was the barbarians are not just advocate. They are inside the gates. We are going to get into that tonight. Lets start with a quick overview of isis and the Islamic State that has wreaked so much how to correct the middle east and throughout the world over the past year. The Islamic State of iraq and syria controls found 35,000 square miles of territory in the very heart of the middle east. That is an area the size of Great Britain as sounding. 35,000 square miles in the middle of the middle east and they declared a caliphate, an Islamic State. This is the great deeds of every Islamic Jihad is screwed from the Muslim Brotherhood to al qaeda to isis and so on and so on. They go about it in different ways. At the end of the day the endgame is the same. The caliphate and islamic sharia law for one and all weather you like it or not. So they declared a caliphate. It is made out more than a terrorist group that it has made them a global phenomenon. Ladies and gentlemen come of this is not al qaeda or hamas and that is bad and lethal enough. Isis again has declared a state in a pivotal part of the world. Not only that 30,000 to 40,000 welltrained fanatical for poachers. Recently they have a Standing Army poachers. Recently they have a Standing Army and their global. The cia director john brennan said recently isis recruits are coming from 90 countries around the world including the United States. American airstrikes have not stemmed the flow. The flow of jihadist from every corner of the globe continues. They are surfing through our friend and ally, turkey, many times. I say that with air quotes when i talk about turkey being a friend and ally of these days. But its happening. This is a movement. Jihadist around the world have been declared. Here in the last in the United States, some 180 u. S. Citizen have left their comfortable existence is in the most prosperous country in the history of the world. They have gone to the caliphate. Some 3500 western europeans at least. The number is much higher. According to most estimates, 3500 western europeans, bread french german, sweet, jay have left the comfortable western europe and traveled to iraq and syria. Ladies and gentlemen, and heres the key point about that and everyone watching in america, if they dont get killed waging jihadist overseas, one day they will return home. These are u. S. Citizens, u. S. Passport holders and when they return home sign off someones head in the middle east will probably not transition peacefully back into daily life. Maybe get a job at a gas station. No the jihadist will come here. Isis right now is calling on followers to come to the caliphate established this utopian islamic society, but also a good thing if you stay put. In chicago new york, london, berlin, isis caused them city rules tell them to rise up on americas soil. You can be a oneman jihadist in your own backyard. Citgo ford had. Think of the boston bombings. Think of paris in january 2015. N. Perez, perfect example of what im talking about. Two well armed jihadist brothers trained in yemen with al qaeda. They return home to friends and they wreaked havoc, killed 17 people. Among the 17 was not coincidentally a number of jewish other jewish deli. They were targeted. Make no mistake about it. It was not a coincidence. 17 People Killed by two well armed jihadist captured attention, dominated for the better part of a week inspired a massive antiterror march in paris which president ial get. Message sent. Ladies and gentlemen, translate what happened in paris to american soil. Do you really think it cant happen here . Did we not see the boston bombings in may 2013. Again brothers well armed, welltrained terrorists to a degree relatively amateurish. In all killed four people wounded over 200 more in again captured the global media cycle and even more importantly for us a major American City the city of boston was shut down for the better part of a week. Two men were able to do that. Ladies and gentlemen think of the mumbai attacks. In november 2008 they ruined a lot of thanksgivings that weekend would tend welltrained terrorists young. These guys were their early 20s mostly. Even one in the late teens. Had fanned out across the city of mumbai, one of the largest in the world. Millions of people in india. And now with assault rifles and bombs in their backpacks and a week absolute habit. They laid siege to one of the Worlds Largest cities. With the assault rifles and bombs and lay siege to one of the biggest cities for the better part of the week but the media cycle was completely dominated by this and they kill dozens and dozens of people. Could you see that in god for bid middle america. That is the goal and im not an alarmist. Im not a sensationalist. This is what isis is saying colin mcginn on americans to rise up. Folks the game plan and a strategy outlined in the book is to turn the United States and western europe into guerrilla war zones where you are seen a ford had style attack a boston bombing attack, a paris style attack on american and european soil on a regular basis. And thing of that in october october 2014, a sequence of events in late september 2014. A sequence of events when an isis sympathizer in rural oklahoma of all places beheaded his coworker, a grandmother. Now on his face the page in minutes online rating she spoke in favor of 9 11 proal qaeda proisis, pictured giving the one finger salute yet the fbi deemed it but face violence at the end of the day. Sounds familiar. I believe something happened to fork out a few years ago. Also a case of Workplace Violence so our government said. This poor woman, a grandmother in rural oklahoma was beheaded by an Islamic Radical and it went on in the ensuing weeks we saw in ottawa, canada 11 jihadist stormed the Canadian Parliament where the Prime Minister often is in canada. And then we had a hatchet willing jihadist madman isis sympathizer attack a group of new York City Police officers with a hatchet. Again, a city wolf. That was in the span of about three weeks in the fall of 2014. Isis wants to create a situation on american soil, ladies and gentlemen, where you are looking over your shoulder. I give you a great example. In sydney, australia down under in september 2014 and isis plot was broken up, a plot devised by isis supporters. But they wanted to do was randomly kidnap someone off the streets of sydney, australia. Some poor soul with a cup of coffee in the san joaquin should the bus doing his morning commute plan to kidnap him and saw his head off for her head off for the cameras. A great propaganda victory. Thankfully it was broken up but again this is the definition of terror where youd never know what is going to hate you, when it was hit you or who was going to hit you the rest assure when they do the u. K. Will probably be shouting all the wok bar. By the way it doesnt take a brain surgeon to walk into a Shopping Mall and start firing. It really doesnt. If the fbi there, his words not mine, if he is saying we have a network of isis sympathizers and supporters in all 50 states including alaska and hawaii, we have serious trouble here. Its a big problem. I am not being an alarmist because ive done my homework. Ive done the research. Ive seen it with my own two eyes. You want to know about recruiting how they tracked americans. I have a chapter in the book called the Islamic State of minnesota. Kind of tongueincheek, kind is not. I spent time on the ground in minnesota. In the frozen tundra of the upper midwest, a great place to live. A prosperous state, high quality of living. A beautiful place. The twin cities of minneapolis and st. Paul of all places have become jihads central in the United States. People at home minister and shake their head and say minnesota. I can see new york city chicago los angeles. Minnesota . Yes, minnesota. Minnesota has the largest somali Muslim Population in all of north america. At least 100,000 muslims live in the twin cities of minneapolis and st. Paul. That is going to shock a lot of americans to hear that. Not every somali is a terrorist obviously but we have a serious problem in that community in the United States the United States of Islamic Radicalism. Dozens of muslims, u. S. Citizens by the way who live in the twin cities have traveled overseas over the past few years and join terrorist groups like i says. More than any other state, city in the entire country minnesota and in particular the somali Muslim Population. The reason that alarms me is number one they may return home well trained fanatical. We had a thread a short time ago by a somali terror group called alshabaab links to al qaeda, calling for attacks on the mall of america in minneapolis. The largest Shopping Mall in the country. If you have a large radicalized population living within the shadow of the Shopping Mall, you may have a problem. Dozens. That is astounding. Dozens of u. S. Citizens in the same measure politan area have gone overseas to join terror groups. The worst of the worst, i says. That alarms me because it seems to be following the european model. I documented in the book the horrific problems in britain france, germany, sweden of all places. Were a large number of months amid the grim are coming to these countries than they are not integrating and they are forming on the self segregating type societies. I know because i walked in this neighborhood and i documented the book is happening. The europeans have not encouraged assimilation. Theyve encourage multiculturalism a new arrivals to keep their culture. It sounds great in theory but impressed with its disastrous and if we go down that road in the United States, we have big problems. Im not trying to paint a broad brush. Ive met a lot of Community Leaders who have worked with me on this issue, giving me great information and walk me through was going on. If we have Serious Problems in the community assimilation and integration, weve got to be on top of it. We cant trust the people for the American Community joining terror groups. We just cant. I spoke to a Law Enforcement source, very plugged in god on the ground, worked for years and years in the city of st. Paul. I asked him how the recruitment process works. This is one of the most fascinating aspects of the book and frankly a chilling but eyeopening discussion. He told me this is how it works. A jihadist recruiter, usually a guy young enough that he can relate to teenagers. He can still relate to teenagers. Theyll come into a mosque or iraq center 18 19yearolds hanging out. And first will befriend them. Then the radicalization process starts and the bill of goods these recruiters will sell a young kid in the United States is low if you come to the caliphate, if you come to the middle east be part of our vanguard of the new islamic empire youll be a rockstar in the middle east. Everyone will know your name. You will be a holy warrior to an 18 19 20yearold kid fresh out of high school, might not have a job yet. Can be an appealing message. It is working. It is resonating and the main way i says is doing this the on the ground aspect where the recruiter according to my sources in minnesota will actually take the kid brainwashed radicalized, make sure they get to the airport to make it to syria, make sure they have money in their pocket and make sure they are in contact with a fixed on the ground. Usually in turkey and a transit through turkey into syria and are part of the blessed caliphate. Holy warriors dedicated to destroying the country that gave them everything they were born and raised the United States. How is this happening other than on the ground . Two words. Social media. Isis as i said in the beginning of our talk is a different beast to global phenomenon. Ladies and gentlemen, the way they use social media is unprecedented. Facebook, twitter, youtube, and sue graham. Isis and supporters around the world send out nine each weeds per minute. That is astounding. Their social Media Operations arent run by westerners. In particular, one american who was raised in the boston massachusetts area of all places was a student at northwestern university. He now reportedly runs iss propaganda arm and a propaganda arm not only is targeted to social media obviously, but films, the power of film, a video. I say spend hundreds of thousands of dollars making slickly produced propaganda videos and they have the production values of a hollywood action flick in some cases. It is astounding if you look at the propaganda. Folks, long gone are the days of Osama Bin Laden and a kate standing against a green screen droning on in arabic for an hour. That is done. I says is on the cuttingedge in their westerners who control the propaganda arm and they know how to directly speak to a western englishspeaking audience. They can reach out and touch them through the web and they are having a great effect. I think another aspect to this because we in this room and hopefully most people if not everyone at home sees what isis is doing. The barbaric savagery and we have repelled by it. This is evil. Yes, evil exists. But there is a segment of people right now ladies and gentlemen, to see what isis is doing. Beheading pillaging, enslaving and they are tracked it to it. In our culture over the past few decades weve had violent video games where kids are chopping heads in their bedroom. We have movies with glory horrific violence and realistic torture scenes in a lot of films and our kids are filling their heads with this. I believe that there is some desensitization going on. Just chopping had. I did that last night. Im not trying to be flip about it, but when your culture is poisonous with that kind of thing they are made for these times in many ways. Medieval ideology and tactics whetted with 21st century technology. That is a lethal mix. And is highly effective. Unprecedented really. So you have on the ground recruitment. You have online recruitment. I give you another chilling story about how the online recruitment works. One of the nastier side of isis obviously is the way they treat women. Total subhuman oppression. Yet in a strange way and on the flipside, we see more and more western women travel to serious and iraq to join isis. Young girls as well as 14 15 years old from places like austria, britain france, germany, going to join this caliphate. I was stunned in the fall of 2014. If i reference the fall of 2014 a lot it is because that is when i wrote the bulk of the book. I was a very busy man. In the fall of 24 at teen i spoke at a large church, proisrael church in the suburbs of denver, colorado. They told me a chilling tale. A few months ago youre writing a book about isis. Boy do we have a story for you. A few months ago a woman was coming to her sunday services. Dressed from head to toe in islamic garb. She was covered in shoot every sunday to this church with a large vibrant congregation and she would take note. She would walk around the church premises. She would spend a lot of time in the nursery according to the Security Team there the nursery where theres children dressed head to toe in islamic garb taking notes. After a few weeks of this it became a bit concerning. Some of the churchgoers were a bit concerned, a bit uneasy. When they approached her nicely and that are you interested in becoming a christian . She said no im a muslim and i have no interest whatsoever in becoming a christian. The followup question is why are you here . And why are you taking notes in front of the nursery . Eventually they asked her to leave. The church did. A few months later something stunning have been. This young girl was 19 years old, caucasian. Shannon conway, an irish name i believe converted to islam, became radicalized online and was communicating with isis fighters online. She agreed to marry one and she was traveling to join them. She was arrested at Denver International airport a few months after the church incident. She was arrested at Denver International airport. She was on her way to join isis and marry a isis fighter. She is now serving four years in federal prison. Weve seen many cases like that. A growing number of cases were isis assigning vulne

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