Transcripts For CSPAN2 Grace And Justice On Death Row 201701

CSPAN2 Grace And Justice On Death Row January 22, 2017

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Do you foresee any changes with the mobilization authorities that allow us access to the guard. Without the yearly declaration of National Emergency the services are being going to be forced to use control mobilization. We have a reserving guard nat is an operational guard reserve, not a strategic reserve. To maintain that professor proficiency, and theyre highly trained and battle testing you have to keep the readiness up and the need the funding. We can now use the title x re reserves in natural disaster. Toes units have to be ready. So manies down to military readiness and that requires money. See the policy changes moving in the right direction. I do think that the guard reserve by the way, the National Guard runs all of air defense for the entire United States of america, and runs all our missile defense. The navy reserve has got dream capabilities in the see seabees. The army reserve that army support. Our mill cant go to war without the guard and reserve so we feed to make sure theyre maintained at that level 0 readiness and when you have the natural disasters you dont know when theyre going to pop up. Im very optimistic and bullish about the laws have changed very favorably but that one on the national security, we need to make sure a certain level excels of guard and reserve. The other big problem this 32 duty stat tuesday and creates complications. I said least would, either or or arent on duty. The retrue 2011 said six and the pentagon said for over ten years, well change and have not changed it yet. So even when theyre in favor of doing the right thing, it takes them a long time to get there but it is moving in the right direction. Lets give arnold a big hand. [applause] [inaudible conversations] good evening, everywhere. Everyone, want to take your seats. Im candace and work with the store here and i want to welcome you. Take this moment to silence your cell phones. We are have have an hourlong event there. Half for the author and think the other half for questions. Use the microphone when you have a question when we get to that portion of the event. Cspan is here. Were recording. So that helps make for a more full recording. And before we have the signing, set this table, if you could just fold up your chairs and set them against a shelf, that would be helpful for movement and getting the star book in ordinary. Impleaseed to welcome brian stolaz to discuss his book, the grace and justice of death row. This is the deep and intimate look into the story of alfred brian, an innocent man on death row. Brians intimate close work with this man on death row to get him exonerated. We have heard this tragic scenario time and time again, getting assistance on the Death Penalty, and the modern era and as well as the few developed nations that still practice it. A review of the back from greg melvin, a national correspondent, says grace and justice on death row isnt just about how a broken system almost broke another decent man. Its a moving store of a unique brotherhood that forms with a corporate lawyer literally services saves other mans life. His story will make you a better christian. Brian stolz it a criminal defense attorney and has received award ford dedication to probono service the highest honor awarded by Catholic Charities of washington in recognition for his work for the oppressed. A member of the criminal Justice Act Felony Panel in u. S. District court of the district of columbia and the district of maryland, and also a member of the aalumni council andboard of directors of the defender service. He liveness alexandria with his wife who is a former prosecutor, and their three children and this is his first book. Please welcome brian. Wow. Thank you so much for those words. I almost cant believe im here. I love this place. I used to come here on dates with my wife, who is here, and i would dream of being a published author and i it happened. Can retire right now. Do you have any openings . I will at the you, in these Uncertain Times were in, place like this is even more important because we all need a place we can all be free to speak about our ideas and beliefs and thoughts without fears. And so the freedom of speech and adem blue are Alive Assembly are live and well here. Thank you to my family who came from new jersey, jerries strong. Thank you so much. A long drive. My cousins, my lovely wife, anna, who is here with me on the dates. To my neighborhood friends the back, my man, thank you. Representatives of the catholic charity. Jim bishop. Chris, im recorded to represent Catholic Charities at a lawyer and do a lot of probow know work. Youre siding in the room with a legend. The Deputy Director of witness to innocent has been fighting the Death Penalty and the corrupt criminal Justice System for decades and his Group Gathers honorees for advocate for the change of the criminal Justice System. I am in awe of you, my man, and i love your become. Thank you for being here. [applause] so, when i was third youre law student at catholic university, we were able to represent individuals charged with crimes, and my first client was charged with stealing a bike. I go to court, and i crossexamine the Police Officer, argue really forcefully, really, really fight hard and he is found get. Go down to lockup and say, hey, map, sorry if fought harder you elm said, dope worry about it. Stole the bike. But what what the said next, thank you, thank you for standing up for me. No one has ever done that before. And so that feeling was a shot right to my. The feeling chase every day when guy to court trying to represent a client. I was a public defender in brooklyn, where i defends thousands of defendants. The get to, the innocent, the misunderstood, the mentally ill, and i doped a good heater and can spot a criminal from a mile away and a very quick scan of this room says most of you are just fine. Some im not sure yet but that both in the to death row in march of 2007. I went to ala time and i good a call from a senior partner about working on a Death Penalty case. Go to death row north of houston, in texas. Met Alfred Duane Brown and i knew this map was innocent. Like a shot to my heart. Its like when you meet your wife for the time you hold youre child the first line, and i walked out and threw upping right next to rental car. This was not brooklyn, this wasnt a bike. This was texas, and i flew out of houston and good some of the discussing airport chinese food that makes you sick and i got a tour that said you love challenge. Here you go cspan, and assad, really errings is this challenge . When he book dame out within back to hewitt houston for the public release and i went back to the chinese place looking for closure from the Fortune Cookie inch movie yes, where Bradley Cooper plays me he gets a fortune that says you did good, awesome, justice its served. Good job. Mine said, pandas are cute. And a fact to who no one can deny but that wasnt exactly at the closure loop i was hoping for so heres the case. A very high profile doublemurder in south houston. A botched robbery at a Cash Checking score. Supposed to be 300,000. A the worker got cold feet and the crime went on as planned and the store clerk, who just had a baby, was murdered. And the officer who responded, officer charles clark, on the verbal of retournament, burdened as well ill say prayers to their families all the time. Day was convicted of murdering officer clark. And it was a really quick trial. Three days. I like to call it fastfood Death Penalty. Ive tried civil case that took a week ask a guy went to jail for a month and ick toot three or four months. Three days, guy, all it took. Guilt was the forth gone conclusion from the jump. The was frustrated with his defense. He was at his girlfriends apartment and got a phone call at the exact time the murder took place. He had a Court Appointed lawyer and they put on no evidence. Not a single witness for the defense. And he was convicted and sentenced to death and i got the case on appeal, called habeas corpus. Its a dreary prison on a country road, north of houston. Hated it. We pulled up to the gate in the sheriff would come out and inspect your, front, back, look in your pockets and you can say im a jokester and i tried to brings light and i culled the hood open and say you i said can you check the oil for me . Nt laugh. The next time i brought him some food bat the only good thing about that houston that little death row there was tack woe bell and i still local taco bell. You love it, too. I celebrated by eating taco bell. So i brought tacos to to at the sheriff and said heres some tacos he looked a my license and aid dont want your yankee tacos and threw them back in car. Didnt like that. So i ate the tacos. The next time he checked my car and i said open your trunk. I said no; he said open your trunk, i said no and he began to show his weapon. Was like, nope. He said why not . I said bus by guy is in the trunk and im breaking him out. And he looked at me like, really . I said, no. I cant break my guy out of death row jill. And finally smiled and i broke him and after that he called me the yankee lawyer but a affectionate, rather than mean. So i would be there on execution execution day, a day which sucked. Id be there and the condemned would be ready to die. They shut the death row down sick that day because they ship them 1 00 that day because the ship hem. I would see family and pastors and lawyers running in and id be sick. I knew he was sick, too. I said, i prom mous, that will never be you. I promise you that will the be you. Put i wasnt so sure i could make good on the promise. Aside from taco bell the only other good thing food related was you could bring 20 in vending machine quarters to buy food for the. So i would good bring 20 in quarter, all the junk fooled he could eat, chicken nuggets, cheese burgers and we would eave things governing. Id buy him and and id say, take your time. What ick do for what can i do for you . Let sit. And that is when we began to form a brotherhood. When it trap tran scented. I knew his store. He was home. Sometimes i would good just to see him and tell him there was one who loved him and cared for him and wanted nothing more than his freedom. The loved those visits because otherwise, he was in a cell, 23 hours a day and the now a cross closees wreckyard. He could touch cell from side to side and he said he could touch the ceiling flatfooted. Think about that. Didnt break him. He field me guys would hang themselves in death row. One guy theres children here. One guy took his open eyeball out and its it. Went welcome to death row. Its his other eyeball and ate it. Back to death row. But he was a measure of peace and grace. So you think, were on debt row. What is the case made of . Significant evidence . No. Never been a shred of science that connects day to the crime never well, no foreign sick no dna no gunshot residue no cis evidence, just witness identification and one person who it cometed the rob and i testified against duane for a light sentence. Read the transcript and said where i thissed . What we dallas is good and investigate and talk to witnesses. We began to figure out something that was shocking to me. Pressure and corruption by the District Attorneys Office and the police. One witness, who claimed she saw duane that morning, was over a football field away. Stood there with her. I said, you could see him from there . She said, no. I cooperate couldnt see him. Said why did you say so . She told me the following. I felt pressured and frightened. Did not want to go to jail and lose the children. Player to at the trial i was visited self time bit the detectives and kept telling me i could be arrested and lose my children if i kept saying i couldnt identify duane in the car. Was like, my gosh. Were up against it here. And that began to happen in each witness that i talked to. The theme of pressure, intimidation, you better say this or ill take your kids awayor house us vouch ever and make your life hell. Nowhere was that more critical than with his girlfriend. Day was living at his girlfriends house and as i told you, he was home, made that phone call. His girlfriend, erica, testified that way the grand jury. Gave him a complete alibi, yes, grand jury. When i left that morning he was there later that day he called my right at the time of the murders. If he was home at the time of the murders and the call, he could never have been there. And that it why thephone call was critical bit she was badger by the grand jury. The same kid threat. Take your kids away and threatened by the d. A. Late ever found out, brought here to a locked room and said if you dont give me what i want ill make you a codefendant and youll get the needle. She held firm, he was home, she felled firm in the grand jury. The d. A. , realizing he didnt have the case he wanted, decided to charge her with perjury. Asked for a very high bail. Pulled her out for four long months. Talked to her later and she said i couldnt take it anymore. I chose my kids over duane and changed her story and said, he wasnt home when i left and he at any time make the phone call from my house. Head and that, guys, this sum and expense of the substance substance substance of evidence that convict twain brown. We fouled out the grand jury, which you have heard is more in the public conscious with ferguson, baltimore and new york. The grand jury investigates a crime to see if theres not evidence to go forward with a charge. The grand jurors were badge at therring her. We found thought from the chronicle they not a pull pulitzer and i was the source for the work she at pull litter for finding the following, the grand jury jury venging a Police Officer shoot, the foreperson was an active duty belief. That shocked me. Realize it i was up against something really big here in texas. One thief grand jurors had been 0 a grand jury six teams. The judge on the case would appoint a commissioner, usually a donor or friend, and then theyd grab their friend and go to grand jury. Its like us, want to go to grand jury . No offense to the people in the room about it was mostly old white people. I said how does this happen . Because of lisas work and because of the brown case that method of selecting grandjurors is abolished in texas. Thank you, danny. Now they picked like everybody else. They gate letter in male and sea show up. The best day of my life, when i married my lovely wife. I said that when she is here and when youre not here. Trust me. Every speech i say it every time. Two, three, four, my kids, number five, the 1986 mets when they won the world series. And number six, day days release. Times it put him bump the mets. Its about the. Grand jury system changing and not only die know that duane is free and that future defends will be treat more fayly fast are fairly in conclusion. Duane has an iq of 69. No problem saying he has intellectual disabilitiesful you have an iq of 0 your executed. State expert hired by the state gave between an extra four points and said he was stressed out and anxious at the time of testifying. Im not a daughter, barely smoother enough to be lawyer but now you cant somebody four points on the iq because theyre stressed occupy. One benefit out working at a large law firm, we can hire and ited and they all said this is not cool. That doctor was fined 5,000 and he cant do death reevaluations anymore there you go. To the judge granted a flu sentencing phase. That wasnt enough for me. I wanted the man out. His girlfriend was impossible to find. She was the critical witness. She said the truth initially. Would into back to texas many ims and a tip where she lived. She would see me, slam the dispore i would go home. Many, many times. One time we had a tip on her house if jump bid a trash dumpster on the front curb to see if a piece of mail has her name on it it did. She didnt show up. Went back to d. C. Incredibly depressing time because i knew she was critical and could back to the the story and then anthony grave, called me up and said, your guy is innocent. I was like, i know. Saying it forever. Please. He said, what you need me to do . I said good talk to girlfriend. And she did. And she told me, as the chose her kids over duane, that when she left work that morning he has and he head phone call from her house. So iten on the call are i. D. , phone number, picked it up i went back to texas the houston District Attorneys Office with the evidence. All the recantations our team hat got and si said, hey, my guy is innocent. And he said this. Feww. Did that. All your yankee lawyers and law firms comedy come to texas and say these guys are innocent. We know better. Thank you temporary much. I said you dont know me but ill be back. Like Arnold Arnold schwarzeneggi walked out but i within sure i could unring the bell. And the phone call, i thought about the phone call all the time. He kept tell melling i may that phone call from her house. So intoned the phone company, they didnt have and the d. A. And they didnt have. It was so angry and sat. Would go down there and see him and be crying. Id be cursing. I cant find that curse curse curse curse phone record from new jersey. You have to use curses to make it sound better. Couldnt believe i couldnt find the damn phone record. And he would tell me, its okay. I believe in you. Thank you for standing up for me. Like that guy with

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