The u. S. Army veteran and former state prosecutors the author of several books including, liberty first, the path to restoring america, essential stories for junior patriot, and sovereign duty. Author, chris hall, as we sit here in early august, how is President Trump doing . [applause] well, hes a president. And . I teach the constitution as it was intended to be applied. The president s in america has operated outside the realm of their authority. So, to judge trump, for me is not to judge them against obama or george w. Bush, but use the constitution as a standard. Sometimes hes good, sometimes, not so much. So that is how we view what goes on in washington, d. C. Not based on Political Party, not based on personality, but based on the standard by which all americans should hold their federal government. When you use that measuring stick, which president s in your view have adhered to the constitution . Which havent. Its been a very long time since weve had a president that was truly constitutional. You look at article two of the constitution. Host which is . Guest is a delegated authority of the executive branch. When we look at that, we realize how little power the president has, constitutionally speaking i always show my student you look at article one the powers dedicated to congress and the new coach article to dedicated to the president and article three is dedicated to the judiciary. In america we gravitated toward an allconsuming executive what we have now in america is an aberration of what the president to be. We think the president is the leader of america, he is not the leader of america. He was never intended. He was intended to be an ambassador on behalf of the states and Foreign Affairs. You can see that when you look at the powers delegated. He is not the designator of war, he is not the controller of our troops, unless there has been a formal declaration of war by congress. So you ask me we look when was the last time we had a declaration of war by congress . World war ii. Every military action that has been led by an executive has been unconstitutionally done so. So, we have a president whos not allowed to make deals, he can only make treaties. Those treaties are only accepted if there confirmed by two thirds of the senate and are consistent is article six, section two demands with a delegated authority of the executive or legislative branches. So what we have is this expansion of president ial power which is contrary to the intent of the framers. Our framers made the president a very small position relative to the legislative, on purpose. Alexander hamilton wrote a paper we call federalist papers 69. Theres a great deal of discussion about the office of the executive. The designers of our Constitutional Republic were concerned that they had just achieved in independence from a monarchy. They did not want to establish new government and create a new monarchy. It was an option. There was a point in time where people were begging George Washington to be king. Were this close to being the kingdom of america. Our founder say we dont want to go back to the kingdom system again. But how do we ensure the executive does not transmute overtime into the king so the federalist papers 69 is a great source and understanding not only what the power of the executive branches but why its so limited. How do we get to the point of executive orders since world war ii . Is a congresses fault . Ultimately, it wrestled the people. Samuel adam said, no people will surrender their liberties nor be easily subdued when knowledge is diffused and virtuous preserve. But when the people become universities ignorant they will sink under their own weight without the aid of foreign invaders. But we have seen is a decline in the important of the study of proper role and placement of the federal government. People will gravitate toward a more government will always expect more. So, congress has a great deal of responsibility in the expansion of the power of the executive branch by unlawfully delegating authority to the president through legislative acts. We have the people though, good example. The last president ial election. If i have a radio show and a Television Show and i took six president ial candidates we had the green party, we had independence we had republicans, democrats libertarian. So i took their published platform and i didnt compare them with each other is as popular. What i did was i compared each platform individually to the constitutional role of the president. What i found was the promises the president candidates were making were promises outside the authority of the offices of the executive. The president does not have the authority to raise or lower taxes. That is reserved to the house of representatives. The president cannot take care of our troops financially, he can expand troops, or withdraw, that is the power reserved for the legislative branch. I realize all of the promises the president s were making were responses to questions asked by the people, will you do this for us, thats what the whole website thing is. Yes, well do this, making this promise but i think of the people were better educated and understanding of the proper role of the executive we would ask better questions. That are into with a delegated authority so the president. In that vain, president s become who the people want them to be. From your most recent book, you will write and if you will explain this, the Central Government is a creation of the constitution is not, and cannot be a party to the constitution. Let me say that again see dont miss it. The Central Government is not a party to the contract, its a creation of the contract. One thing we need to remember about the formation of the federal government and in the sovereign duty book they covered here in cspan, we go through a timeline, the states are the first creation of the people in that happened on july 2, 1776. From the creation of the states through the authority of the people, the states came together and said we need to form a confederation of states and form a union for Mutual Protection from foreign invaders and we must form this union to be a unified voice and Foreign Affairs for treaties, commerce, peace, war and we need to form an alliance between the states for a more peaceful interaction between the states. The states were formed as independent sovereign governments. When you read the writings through the federalist papers, the ratification you see the terms, state and nation played interchangeably. So when we speak of the state of virginia, new hampshire, rhode island, they also refer to germany, france, and spain estates. But we need to understand is that we created 13 independent sovereign governments with the same authority and political function as germany, france, spain. So we need to come together and make this unified voice, we need to fix the things are not right. Through that we will create a Constitutional Republic a confederation of the states of the constitution will create a federal government. The federal government to not exist until a constitution was ratified. Not only that, there is a precarious moment prior to the ratification of her current constitution where we did not have enough states to ratify. It was a scary moment for those designing the constitution to think we might not have a union at all. If that were to happen in the constitution that ratify, then there would be no federal government. So what we also have to realize is the constitutions contract. Contracts speaking, when you have a contract you have the parties to the contract. Those of the people come together to make the terms of the contract. They negotiate the terms and design the contract. Ultimately they sign it into legal being. The constitution republic, the states or the parties to the contract. There are some who teach that the constitution is the agreement between the people in the federal government, thats not true. You cant be true. We can show false by one thing. How is the constitution ratified . Was it ratified by popular vote . No. It was ratified by three quarters of the state. So the states be in the ratify of the constitution meaning they are the party. Some try to teach the constitutions and agreement between the state and the federal government. Thats a possibility, because the federal government to not exist until the constitution was ratified. You cannot be the party to a contract when you are the product of the contract. So, the only parties that existed that could be the creators of the constitution could be the state. The federal government didnt exist until the constitution was ratified. So the state of the creators of the constitution, the constitution created the federal government, therefore the state of the creators of the federal government. Host so july 2, 1776 until 1783 . Guest 1787. We had the articles of confederation between the but they proved to be faulty on several aspects. When you read the notes to the ratification you learned that the greatest problem to have and with the original articles of confederation was that the federal government was operating outside its boundaries and it to not have enough direction. The greatest problem we had at that time was that the federal government was making an equitable treaty. Theyre making treaties with Foreign Governments in which one state or one set of state had to provide all of the resources and then a separate set of states got all the benefits. The states now form this union having to foot the entire bill that when a minute. This is not what we signed up for, to transfer our while to another state. So were not going to comply with this treaty. Its a big deal. That only is a treaty and agreement, its a contract with a Foreign Government. Source states who are refusing to comply and they were right to resist because they were not suitable for members of the state there are making the Foreign Government mad for breaking the terms of the contract plus the states theyre supposed to get the benefit were mad at the states that wouldnt pay. We have a problem in the articles of confederation. Its about to split and we just got started because were about to go to war with Foreign Government. Which is why we brought together the new convention to create our constitution which is why the new constitution is called the more perfect union. So, when we dissolve the articles of confederation there is no more federal government. The only government that exists or the state. There would have never been a new federal government had not our current constitution been ratified. From your book, not a living breathing document which was published in 2011, you rate that a common refrain these days is that we fell asleep. What that means is our ignorance of the history that brought us our american liberty allowed tierney to sneak up. However, that was not the case for founder. When we take the big picture and i mean, the full scope of the history of our american Constitutional Republic we have to realize that it did not begin in 1787. The liberty was not invented in 1776 and tierney was not invented by george the third. When i teach a class called the genealogy of what we do is take the 700 years of history that give us our declaration and our bill of rights and it is his history that proves to us that our constitution is built upon time tested principles. Theyre not inventions. When you know that history you know there were five documents written. Theyre called the reddish liberty chargers. Within those five documents, you find every aspect of our declaration of independence, and our bill of rights. Not even just in principle, sometime in the language itself. We did not invent anything in our foundational documents. We inherited everything. Is that history that proves to us that our founders actually the surprises everybody, theres nothing new in america. This is not a brave new world. There is a popular belief that the constitution is irrelevant to today because our founders cannot know what we are possibly seen today. But, when you study that history you see that we are just repeating the same scenarios over and over even today. The same stories, its the same people with the same interaction of government just different paces and better technology. History always repeats. The theme is that those who do not know the history are doomed to repeat its mistakes. Host where do you teach . Guest i teach all over the country. This is your number seven for my husband jc, and her son colton who has been traveling with this teaching for seven years. He is 11. He is quite the traveled young man. His bent almost every state in the union to include alaska but not hawaii. Hes praying for that one. His bent to four countries. So i travel around and teach on average over 260 classes every year and over 22 states. We dont solicit for classes, people email us and contact us and say, come and teach us. I Teach High School and middle school, college students, civic groups, business groups, bar associations, Law Enforcement, i have to the legislators of ten states. We will teach anybody. When people find when we teach is that some preconceived fallacies need to fall away. Teaching the constitution doesnt label me in any certain group. What people find is that it doesnt matter on what political side you stand, the constitution is relevant to everyone. I taught a National Conference of physicians and surgeons. That was exciting to hear their comments. These are not people that would not be generally carrying around their pocket constitution. And theyre so excited about what they learned. Thats what we find as we travel and teach. This is an empowering message for all people, and inspirational message that overcomes a feeling of powerlessness that americans have today in view of how their government operates. Host to charge for these classes . Guest we have no speaking fees. Host how do you pay for . Thats a lot of travel. Guest we have airplane tickets, rental colors, food, hotels, weve never had a speaking fee. Weve never required anybody to compensate us for our travel or our expenses. We do this as a mission of our heart. We are not independently wealthy. Weve never received a grant from anyone. But we work solely off of private donations, 20 or 30 bucks here and there and through the sale of the book. We are not out to get rich. Our family is a family missionary. When we are not teaching the constitution of the United States we are missionaries to haiti. The best way heard someone describe what we do is we are missionaries to the people of the United States in defense of the constitution. Thats how we operate. We work solely by faye of her seven years it works. From your website and from your bio, i was raised a democrat, the only thing more evil than satan was a republican in my home. I was an environmentalist, some of my best friends were members of greenpeace and i supported the World Wildlife fund and i was a vegetarian by ideology, not for Health Reasons from his 15 years. I believed in Global Warming and defended it vigorously. I believed in the big bang. I supported abortion and often let openly condemned others for being prolife. I have argued with abortion protesters on street corners and called them names im not proud of. I was not only not a christian, but i practice many other religions include many occult version. I was bitter against god and felt like only ignorant week people needed faith. I was too intelligent and too educated. Guest have come a long way. Host what happened . I didnt have an epiphany moment. You start with the beginning, and my household there is nothing more evil than a republican in satan itself. It was a very politically active household. My father and his father and all his brothers are union people. And so our political ideology came from that. Union born, union fed and when we die were union dead. So there really was no other choice. In that paradigm there is also a very strong work ethic. So if you want to be the right person you need to be, you need to be someone whos willing to work hard and put in the time and effort. My dad is one of the hardest working people i know. He was able to instill that work ethic in may. When it was time to go to college i put myself through school, student loans, jobs and i worked really hard. I graduated with a degree in biochemistry and i did not have i did not graduate with honey delusions of grandeur. I had to work at the bottom and work at. In doing so, i started noticing the paycheck. There are these taxes coming out of my paycheck. Being raised, i was taught that paying taxes is your fair share, to pay for the elderly and the orphans, the disabled, the people who cant take care of themselves. That is im looking around. Im noticing my Community Around me, im noticing the same people who werent working when i went to college are still not working. Not because they cant, but because they choose to make choices not to. I didnt think that the definition of fair. If taxes were about fairness than the people who work hard, who have sacrificed to put themselves in a better place would have to pay less taxes. So i started thinking, i dont have any problem with charity. I have a problem with government tell me i have to be charitable and to whom i have to be charitable too. So i have no problem socially speaking with taking care of the orphans and widows and disabled. I think the people of the community can do that. I dont believe thats the role of the government to take from me and give whoever they choose. Then, when i had a family i began to realize its not the government wiping gnosis and cleaning up sick in the late night, its not the government administering the discipline. Its not the government ultimately concerned on what kind of person my child can become. Thats responsibility that falls on me and my husband. It doesnt take a village to raise a child it takes a family. And when i looked around with the evidence in my community, the children that were being raised by the government and the system were not children who were respectful, who were as a whole, not respectful of their surroundings and of what they had in of the community, you have the individuals but for the most part they did not have the values that my family wanted to have. So i realized, its our responsibility. On that when i gave my life to ch