Transcripts For CSPAN2 Key Capitol Hill Hearings 20151120 :

CSPAN2 Key Capitol Hill Hearings November 20, 2015

Majority. A review of president obama by House Democrats that felt the administration did not make the case as to why they should vote the republican author bill when it could have hurt them politically to do so. The bill heads to the senate where future is uncertain. Next president ial candidate Hillary Clinton laying out plan to combat isis group in syria and iraq. The former secretary of state spoke in Foreign Relations in new york city and took questions for cnn hosts and the audience. This is just over an hour. [applause] please be seated. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Mr. Mayor, welcome. I would like to welcome you all to the council on Foreign Relations. For those of you who do not know us, we are an independent nonpartisan Membership Organization and publisher for nearly 5,000 members, government officials, business pe cue activist, journalists, educators and students, civic and religious leaders and other citizens to help them better understand the world and the Foreign Policy choices facing this and other countries. Consistent with the mission we are making ourself a resource for the president ial candidates and their staffs as well as for the American People in the run off for 2016 president ial election. Ive written to republican and democrats alike to speak and take questions from our members. So far we have had marco rubio, the senator from rubio and jim web, former senator from virginia. This tuesday in washington chris christie, the governor of new jersey is scheduled to speak. Today, however, we are pleased and honored to host the former secretary of state and former senator from the great state of new york Hillary Clinton. Todays conversation will be conducted by sicaria, thinkers of International Relations and american policy. Has host show secaria of gps. The format for today we will hear remarks on u. S. National after which she will take questions. We aim to establish all of this in the span of one hour so we can conclude by roughly 11 30. Madame secretary, senator, i want to welcome you back in Foreign Relations, the podium is yours. [applause] thank you, thank you very much. Thank you, richard, and thanks for the great work that the council does you should your leadership, it truly is an important resource for us all. I look forward to have having the conversation with you. Everyone here at the council and mr. Mayor, thank you very much for being here and for everything you are doing and will do to keep our city safe and strong. Im very grateful. I wanted to come here to our city, which has shown such resilience in the face of terrorism to talk about the events of the past week and the work we must do together to protect our country and our friends. When the United States was hit on 9 11 our allies treated that attack against one as an attack against all. Now, its our turn to stand in solidarity, france and all of our friends. We cherish the same values and we must share the same determination. After a major terrorist attack, every Society Faces a choice between fear and resolve. The worlds great democracies isnt sacrifice our values or turn our backs on those in need, therefore, we must choose resolve and we must lead the world to meet this threat. Lets be clear about what we are facing. Beyond paris in recent days we have seen deadly terrorists attacks in nigeria, lebanon, iraq and turkey and russian civilian airline destroyed in sanai. They per persecute religions. An International Terrorist network that includes affiliates across the region and beyond and an ideological movement. And time is of the essence. Isis is demonstrated new ambition, reach and capabilities. We have to break the groups momentum and then its back. Our goal is not to deter or contain isis but to defeat and destroy isis. But we have learned that we can score victories over terrorist leaders and networks only to face threats down the road. So we also have to play and win the long game. We should pursue a comprehensive counterterrorism strategy. One that embeds our mission within isis within radical jehadism thats bigger than any one group. Whether its alqaeda or isis or some other network. An immediate war against an urgent enemy and generational struggle with deep roots will not be easily torn out. It will require power. One defeat isis in syria, iraq and across the middle east. Three, harden our defenses and those of our allies against external and homegrown threats. Let me start with the campaign to defeat isis across the region. United states and our International Coalition has been conducting this fight for more than a year. Its time to begin a new phase and intensify and broaden our efforts to smash and deny isis control of territory in iraq and syria. That starts with a more Effective Coalition air campaign, with more allied planes, more strikes and a broader target set. A key obstacle standing in a way is a shortage of good intelligence about isis and its operation. So we need an immediate intelligence in the region including tech technical and speakers with closer partnership with regional and intelligent services. Our goal to achieve penetration that we have achieved with alqaeda in the past. This will help us identify and eliminates isis command and control and its economic lifelines. A more Effective Coalition air campaign is necessary but not sufficient. We should be honest about the fact that to be Successful Air strikes will have to be combined with Ground Forces actually taking back more territory from isis. By president obama i do not believe that we should again have a hundred thousand american troops in combat in the middle east. Thats just not the smart move to make here. If weve learned from anything from 15 years of war is that local people and nations have to secure their own communities. We can help them and we should, but we cannot substitute for them. What we can and should support local and regional Ground Forces in carrying out this mission. Now the obstacles to achieving this are significant. On the iraqi side of the border kurdish have fought to defend their own lands. But the Iraqi National army has struggled and its going to take more work to get it up to fighting shape. As part of that process we may have to give our own troops advising and training iraqis greater freedom of movement and flexibility and helping target air strikes. Ultimately, however, the campaign will succeed if more iraqi soonies will join the fight, but that will not happen so long they feel they do not have a stake in their country or confidence in their own security and capacity to confront isis. Now weve been in a similar place before in iraq. In the first soonie awakening in 2007 we were able to provide sufficient support to persuade them to join us in rooting out alqaeda. Unfortunately under Prime Minister malakis rule, they were forgotten. But nonetheless, we need to lay the foundation for a second soonie awakening. We need to put sustained pressure on the government in bagdad to get political house in order and move forward with reconciliation and finally stand up a national guard. Bagdad needs to accept, even embrace arming soonie and Kurdish Forces in the war against isis. If baghdad wont do that, coalition should do. More Ground Services to engage isis beyond the syrian curds that are deep in the fight. The viable soonie opposition groups remains preoccupied with fighting assad, who let us remember has killed many more syrians than the terrorists have. But they are increasingly under threat from isis as well. So we need to move simultaneously toward a politically solution to the civil war that paves the way for a new government with new leadership and encourage more syrians to take on isis as well. To support them, we should immediately deploy the special Operations Force president obama has already authorized and be prepared to deploy more as more syrians get into the fight and we should retool and ramp up our efforts to support and equip viable Syrian Opposition units. Our increased support should go handinhand with increase support from arab and European Partners including special forces who can contribute to the fight on the ground. We should also work with coalition and neighbors to impose nofly zones that will stop assad from slaughtering civilians and opposition from the air. Opposition forces on the ground with Material Support from the coalition present safe areas where syrians could remain in the country rather than fleeing toward europe. This combined approach would help enable the opposition to retake the remaining stretch of the Turkish Border from isis choking off its supply lines. It would also give us new leverage in the diplomatic process that secretary kerry is pursuing. Of course, weve been done several diplomatic deadends before in the conflict, but we have models how seemingly and tractable multicivil wars do eventually end. We can learn lessons from lebanon and bosnia about what it would take and russia and iran have to face the fact that continuing to prop up a vicious dictator will not bring stability. Right now, im afraid president putin is making things somewhat worse, to be clear, though, there is an Important Role for russia to help in resolving the conflict in syria and we have indicated a willingness to work with them toward an outcome that preserves syrian as a state with protection to the rights of all syrians and to keep key state institutions in tact. There is no alternative to a political transition that allows syrians to end assads rule. Now much of the strategy on both sides of the border hinges on the role of our arab and turkish partners and we must get them to carry their share of the burden with military intelligence and financial contributions as well as using their influence with fighters and tribes in iraq and syria. Countries like jordan have offered more and we should take them up on it because ultimately our efforts will only succeed if the arabs and turks step up in a much bigger way. This is their fight and they need to act like it. So far, however, turkey has been more focused on the kurds than on countering isis. To be fair, turkey has a long and painful history with kurdish terrorists groups, but we need to get turkey to stop bombing occurreddish kurdish fighters in syria who are battling isis. The United States should also work with our arab partners to get them nor invested in the fight against isis. At the moment their focus in other areas because of their concerns in the region, specially the threat from iran. Thats why the saudis, for example, shifted attention. So we have to work a common approach. In september i layed out a comprehensive plan to counteract such as hezbollah and hamaz, we cannot view iran and isis as separate challenges. Regional politics are too interwoven. And as we work out a regional approach, we should, of course, be closely consulting with israel, our strongest ally in the middle east. Israel increasingly shares with our arab partners and has the opportunity to do more in intelligence and joint efforts as well. Now, we should have no illusions about how difficult the mission before us really is. We have to fit a lot of pieces together and move on multiple front seat at once, but if we press forward on both sides of the border in the air and on the ground, i believe we can crush isis terror, and to support this campaign, congress should swiftly pass authorization to use military force. That will send a message to friend and foe alike that the United States is committed to this fight. The time for delay is over, we should get this done. Now, the second almost of our strategy looks beyond the immediate battlefield of iraq and syria to disrupt and dismantle global terrorists infrastructure on the ground and on line. A terror pipeline that facilities the flaw of fighters, financing, arms and propaganda around the world has allowed isis to strike at the heart of paris last week and alqaeda to do the same earlier this year. Isis is working hard to extend its reach, establish affiliates far from home base and despite significant set abacks setbacks it has encountered but even alqaeda, including the death of osama ben laden, they are still posing great threat to so many. Lets take one example. Weve had a lot of conversation about isis in the last week. Lets not forget alqaeda. They still have the most sophisticated bomb makers and vicious plotters and active affiliates in places like yemen and north africa. We cant just focus on iran and syria. Most urgent is stopping the flow of foreign fighters to and from the war zones of the middle east, thousands of young recruits have flocked to syria, belgium, united kingdom, and yes, even the United States. Their western passports make it easier for them to cross borders and eventually return home ral radicalized. We should not stop pressing until turkey, where most foreign fighters cross into syria finally locks down its borders. United states and allies need to know and share the identities of every fighter that has traveled to syria. We have to be smart and target interventions that will have the greatest impact. For example, we need a greater focus on shutting down key enablers who arrange transportation, documents and more. When it comes to terrorist financing we have to go after the once who facilitate. Un Security Council should update terrorism sanctions. They have a resolution that does try to block terrorist financing and other enabling activities, but we have to place more obligations on countries to police their own banks and the United States which has quite a record of success in this area can share more intelligence to help other countries. And once and for all the saudis and others need to stop their citizens from directly funding extremist organizations as well as schools and mosques around the world that have set too many young people on a path to rat radicalization. We have to identify the hot spots, the specific neighborhoods and villages, the prisons and schools where recruitment happens in clusters like the neighborhood in brussels where the terrorist attacks were planned. Through partnership with local Law Enforcement and Civil Society special you with muslim leaders, we have to in these hot spots. Theres no doubt we have to do a better job contesting online space including websites and chat rooms where jihadist communicate with followingers. Followers. At the state department i build up a unit of Communication Specialists fluent in arabic, somalian to battle with extremists online. We need more of that including from the private sector. Social med accompanies can also do their part by swiftly shutting down terrorist accounts so they are not used to plan for both or celebrate violence. Online or offline, the bottom line is that we are in a context of ideas against an ideology of hate and we have to win. Lets be clear, islam is not our adversary. Muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism. The obsession in some corders with clash of civilization or repeating the specific records, radical islamic terrorism isnt just a distraction, it gives these criminals, more murdererrers more standing than they deserve. Our priority should be how to fight the enemy. In the end, it didnt matter what kind of terrorists we called ben laden, it mattered that we killed ben laden, but we still cant close our eyes to the fact that there is a distorted and dangerous stream of extremism within the muslim world that continues to spread. Its adherent but capable of causing profound damage, most specially to their own communities throughout an arc of instability that stretches from north and west africa to asia. Overlapping conflicts, collapsing structures, poverty and repression have created openings for extremist to exploit. Before the arab spring i warned that the region foundations would sink into the sand without immediate reform. The need has grown more urgent. We have to join with our partners to do the patient steady work of empowering moderates, supporting Democratic Institutions and the rule of law, creating Economic Growth that supports stability, working to curve corruptions, helping train effective and accountable Law Enforcement intelligence and counterterrorism services. As we do this, we must be building up a global counterterrorism infrastructure that is more effective and adaptable than the Terror Networks we are trying to defeat when i became secretary of state i was surprised to find that nearly a decade there was no International Vehicle to regularly convene countries to deal with terrorist threats. So we created the Global Counterterrorism Forum which now brings together nearly 30 countries, many from the muslim world. It should be a Clearing House for directing assistance for countries that need it and lets not lose sight of cooperation of Nuclear Material and biological weapons and keep them out of the hands of terrorists. At the end of the day, we still must be prepared to go after terrorists wherever they plot using our tools at our disposal. That includes targeted strikes by military aircraft and drones with proper safe guards when there are arent any other vilable options to deal with continueing eminent threats. 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