Transcripts For CSPAN2 Panel Discussion On Free Speech 20151

CSPAN2 Panel Discussion On Free Speech December 5, 2015

Cross platform pollination, something i talked about by Rush Limbaugh the next day, i dont think he is a regular atlantic reader but things come to people through their screens and people talk to each other. Might be sitting behind a desk or in mid vegas in your car on the highway all day, not communicating with your fellow citizens, as this is a great sort of commission of voices. [inaudible conversations] were going to get started. I teach at u. N. L. V. Welcome to the 14th annual vegas valley book festival and those partners to provide funding for the largest celebration of the written and spoken in the industry did word. Of Beverly Rogers institute institute, the local chapter of aig a and also the Literary Committee of schumacher Logistics Committee and the volunteers and authors. Well hear of a panel freespeech the battleground i will introduce the panel and we will have a discussion then take it to the audience. First we have our professor from Computer Science at u. N. L. V. Crating the firstever security Degree Program in 2005. Since 2011 he has written a column in which he has addressed that Edward Snowden leaks and tools for helping to analyst avoid surveillance next leslie e. Griffin is a professor at law teaching constitutional law of an and a 30 on bioethics law and womens rights said contributes to the block hamilton griffin and finally said chief operating officer of the First Amendment center in washington d. C. , gene policinski. Hosting journalism works his column inside the First Amendment a Founding Editor of usa today and the Founding Editor when dutch editor of the sports we. To get started the issue of free speech that you find it troubling. Of a light to bring to your attention is the social cost of freespeech i will try to save it to the following way. The three parallel threads so how do we get to the character freespeech with of belgium or israel or zimbabwe . I can be definitive but i will try to present ideas that would suggest the way freespeech is the way it is. So i will begin with the following. It has allowed free speech the most tyrannical government for the poor refuse collection hates monitoring about the political opposing force the problem comes when the free speech is critical and every country interferes with free speech said is critical of the controlling elite. And with those totalitarian regimes in the democratic regimes but with selfcensorship. Has said couple of examples of so what the journalists call nobody is prepared for that with Foreign Policy youll probably get push back and my a interested is the teflon the law created major Health Concerns then became so obvious no one would dare to suppress it. And the proof that cigarette smoking causes cancer by the nazis rieggers still discussing it and if you are interested in it there was a wonderful book by naomi called a the emergence of doubt. If you dont want to read the book editor that a few months later it dvd k mount on the same topic. Another category for push back is an unusual history scandalous abuse of the indigenous population. With a democratically elected government. Rehab a long history of that and a real hot spot with that palestine issue. And the First Amendment what we do with the sedition act of 1798 if any person shall a lawful a combine or conspired together to oppose any government in the United States to paul s. When dash publishing a false statements the president or congress all your subject to prosecution. Right after, within one decade we have the sedition act. Then tacked onto the impetus 1917 espionage act which Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden are very familiar red. And anything contemptuous the u. S. Constitution yad jihadi fatah. What we do is the sedition act. , now with the executive orders and the final pieces from george to be bush with the requirement with the cia director to block that classification or the Vice President s original Classification Authority this is a classic story is not so tragic it would be humorous dicty need invented is so classification stamp. [laughter] he stamped every piece of paper so the archive is would not release any time soon. We have to move on. We will be backed. Good afternoon. To want to talk about tuberose publisher of powerful publishers that decided not to publish those cartoons since you different scenarios when there was a danish cartoon competition in 2005 with the danish press published pictures had depicting of profit of its Video University but you will not find the cartoons and the book and shortly after the Charlie Hebdo shooting in paris that had cartoons critical omaha of mohammed even and the pope and obama but other publications decided not to put up the cartoons. So this is a concern because if you have threats against zero dba Decision Maker the chorus ben corresponding it is critical of religious figures and that is something we should not do and to so for those satirical remarks that is not the First Amendment is about with the definition of religion that if you do favor religion it should be a crime and backing up what could happen but its it comes from societies in which church and state but the criticism of religion with the criticism of the state. And that orthodoxy is combined so that is the underlying power of the state. To say we are a christian nation and it is illegal but under the First Amendment we have rejected that notion m part of that goes to the understanding could says religious orthodoxy so that offensive speech is protected. Generally we have a lot of case law that says it is a derogatory toward the gays are the military but sometimes we are not as quick to remember the religious authority with that cj is the core speech to be protected by the First Amendment and it is important given the in the standing the power of the state is a process of or the power of religion with everybody else is also a danger to those and not in those power for religions. And the journalistic side the world has changed why arent the Times Publishing days . How do we have a system that free speech like this is under attack and may cause ulcers speech itself censored speech. I was mentioning before we started that the threat that ic at the moment to free speech is what i would put in quotation marks but everybody goes out industry with an Armored Vehicle we have a very good reason not to allow that protest but i have to add on to others that ignorance with the First Amendment freedoms we do a survey every year of attitudes since 1997 by 2 of americans to name of the freedoms let alone what day are. Im not sure i could do a 30 years ago but i have had this job for a while so i can the ignorance part it is easy to lose your freedoms than there is the third one since a large internet search providers to suggest in 2010 to occupy it to occupy that space there is tremendous power with what we see with that algorithm in may take a term so suddenly in the is the lexicon. But there democritus eaters and with the combination of all those things but we see it in berkeley the home of the Free Speech Movement the cold air is to suppress speech that may denigrate that is the power to be offensive permits just as was said in the 40 decision to hear things that motivate us to speak out against them. And when we screen thats so for those people or islam. But you know, it is important to hear them so those ideas will survive. Talk about private censorship but the wikileaks and paypal account . I will talk about the paypal account one but on some accounts show women to delist the service and that meant wikileaks when darken or america. With the dutch boy in the figures in a damp one server betty linking it to the servers in neither countrys but it is critical to what you said to List Services there arent that many cloud providers if you could count on your fingers. There is some widespread belief to make this the contention read different reason with the danger of the immediate threat there are muslim communities that i may have some threat but as in the fourth grade for most editors that is the freedom not to publish if we have had them and youre not doing ted a journalistic way with those draconian types of laws that is much more analogous it and though this seems when call on in color was introduced on a daily basis and to become so much more graphic their readers all over america said edward to see that. Been to a satellite that content. Right to have a button on my site you dont rock by the box to somehow make that decision so after a timeout have to show that. So an honesty and it was satirical. Had about a 38 or 45 pages. Then to of that publication said his information on insults were a good guide to disk drive that anymore the irony of having the freedom to publish it. Id want to violate the law so the beneficiaries itself. That is important but what strikes me it is hard to understand but i need to show them. And so what seems to meet is the other issues of the cartoons and what stories in the paper that you cant really understand. How can we understand this debate . About seeing a the cartoons that all . So not putting them in there we accept the argument beazer dangerous or destructive even though there are all kinds of arguments. That is my deepest concern. Slow to get the story out there to understand more but yet you leave the story out and when my mother was alive and what we need is discussion. I tried not to go around to say its but our understanding of International Politics it is incomplete. So free speeches and complete. With that understanding me that i am so worried about offending somebody we do not get the story at all. Is there over sensitivity . Or getting on the wrong side . There is also the intimidation factor. That was the nsa whistleblower fairly dash up in the organization and decided to expose the wasteful spending on the unconstitutional promise one of the surveillance programs. Them because the topic was too high. After tenures and bankrupting him when their work to block the churches and in debt was inflamed so you need to tell me all this family that sent a clear message. But to send a signal up to get out with Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden to toe the line. End to not walk away on this bed is the intimidation factor. And that is the resources that the political thugs have. You contributed but the Obama Administration people have said it is day happenstance or a coincidence stood journalists be concerned . Absolutely it is not happenstance. This isnt a democrat or republican issue every Administration Since world war to end world war i the government has the inherent desire from criticism but the Obama Administration has done it in a way because part of that was not just the threat of jail but the loss of your pension, a classification instructor stuart never work again in your field but they have decided and voiced by a judge that no longer going after the journalists as the primary purpose because that makes them heroes did it is selfdefeating. And you go after everybody end tegea the university of maryland or the Washington Post and the next time they sat down to say sorry i have to move but the last time i had to spend half a day what i have this and approved contact with you literally the pta meeting. But ironically edes said that in in defense. But seriously they have raised that to a new level. With the thumb drives and that is the history of a leak. Lid people find a way around it. But an analyst at the pentagon realized and mine resistant to armored resistant vehicles called the mwraps. The forces deflected and at the time we had a flat bottom then it would blow the vehicle over with horrific injuries. They found no villain but they overcharge to save as much money as possible so that meant they were mwraps to send them over in small bunches. Ever other parts of the production process but people died with no recognition the results of the stories and then they credit 16,000 lives saved in the first few years there delivered in great numbers. It is an interesting tension the american and public has always tolerated under the espionage act mitt is illegal to possess documents and the reason we have met as my Kindergarten Teacher miss francis once said. She said because. Just because. That is up prosecutors most powerful reason they can choose a statute and prosecute under that to make your life miserable all. End yet we still use of world war was an espionage act. So what you are up against that they can be prosecuted under that there have the authority of the espionage act i can call you into court so the prosecutors have not been as interested the dare i say that is the culture of the First Amendment. Then of course, so on the First Amendment side so what journalists are really protected . But one thing you can do is expedia rest whistleblowers status. There are some statutes that protect whistleblowers. And that is because its that is good things. Through the history of the vietnam war. The you can control the prosecutions are statutory. By giving whistleblowers more of a status. Than we can come closer to prosecute because the coconspirator by having contact with the gentleman because they dropped that sitting coming close to prosecuting this person. Is that where the Obama Administration backed off . But at the final push you think maybe they went too far. But then they realize there is little to be gained. So an editor of quebec to the civilrights era said the ultimate defense was a matter of conscience i will not identify my source i choose not to and i will suffer the consequences. So i think they realized there were not going to disclose what they wanted to disclose and frankly they were releasing details to go into court ended the 80s they were prosecuted but there may be ended administration is willing to take on but i fear frankly to 9 11 for Edward Snowden horror Chelsea Manning. For claims of other countries that are targeted but what if of dash mass casualtys . We may see that in a way we never have before. So to whistle past the graveyard. So first is important to remember the only person who went to jail for anything connected with our reclaim bell the replay am and the people of the agent were not convicted and one was prosecuted. But because of the grand jury so there is a lot of selectivity in the prosecution almost always and i mention Something Else now 35 years into a long prison sentence and this is for leaking information to wikileaks of dade journalistic endeavor however not too many years before that that they were selected of topsecret information and sentence. And one other story that is important is there is another about the same time to do with the coast guard project with the selection of new equipment and some of those were radio sets but there were not waterproof lots of water every where and then the same thing happened to them. You Tell Congress about it end eventually the coast guard got waterproof radios. End if i might just include to give you some things but i will not go into the details if you want to know what that is to read the book propaganda i will read the first sentence of the book. Listen to this. This is how the world works with intelligent manipulation with the opinions of the masses is the important element in society they see this mechanism within invisible government that is a true power of the country. Think of Citizens United if you ask yourself why . Is 6 that amazon written in 1925. Before rigo to audience questions, if were back in five years what will we talk about . The ever increasing desire to be protected from speech they dont like we see that on College Campuses with other demonstrations of a willingness to allow government to suppress that that is counter to the First Amendment. That i will say we will still wonder if that has speech aspects but also freedom of religion in a growing bibbers population we see that violent end of it detonation more diverse of increasing numbers to how we find common ground. Are you pessimistic . I spend a lot of my time to figure apo Computing Technology to come to the rescue for a sustainable journalism in the environment we dont have journalism those are extensive i am not interested so much that budget survive full journalism that israel keep them alive to do the work. I think they have a shot but how will we protect them . So we have to protect them in other ways. Thinking of the use of operating systems with they can provide an access to the internet but all of those technologies to get them anonymity to keep them from being killed but that is critical in some regions so i hope i can report five years from now and i am pleased to see they are using these techniques. Hats off to them we need to take it one step farther to have their name involved to be compensated and recognize. So i am working on the next project. If you have a question please come to the microphone. I guess it is to the panel to very brief comments and a question. So just two years ago there was prosecution of a journalist may be a the Rush Limbaugh<\/a> the next day, i dont think he is a regular atlantic reader but things come to people through their screens and people talk to each other. Might be sitting behind a desk or in mid vegas in your car on the highway all day, not communicating with your fellow citizens, as this is a great sort of commission of voices. [inaudible conversations] were going to get started. I teach at u. N. L. V. Welcome to the 14th annual vegas valley book festival and those partners to provide funding for the largest celebration of the written and spoken in the industry did word. Of Beverly Rogers<\/a> institute institute, the local chapter of aig a and also the Literary Committee<\/a> of schumacher Logistics Committee<\/a> and the volunteers and authors. Well hear of a panel freespeech the battleground i will introduce the panel and we will have a discussion then take it to the audience. First we have our professor from Computer Science<\/a> at u. N. L. V. Crating the firstever security Degree Program<\/a> in 2005. Since 2011 he has written a column in which he has addressed that Edward Snowden<\/a> leaks and tools for helping to analyst avoid surveillance next leslie e. Griffin is a professor at law teaching constitutional law of an and a 30 on bioethics law and womens rights said contributes to the block hamilton griffin and finally said chief operating officer of the First Amendment<\/a> center in washington d. C. , gene policinski. Hosting journalism works his column inside the First Amendment<\/a> a Founding Editor<\/a> of usa today and the Founding Editor<\/a> when dutch editor of the sports we. To get started the issue of free speech that you find it troubling. Of a light to bring to your attention is the social cost of freespeech i will try to save it to the following way. The three parallel threads so how do we get to the character freespeech with of belgium or israel or zimbabwe . I can be definitive but i will try to present ideas that would suggest the way freespeech is the way it is. So i will begin with the following. It has allowed free speech the most tyrannical government for the poor refuse collection hates monitoring about the political opposing force the problem comes when the free speech is critical and every country interferes with free speech said is critical of the controlling elite. And with those totalitarian regimes in the democratic regimes but with selfcensorship. Has said couple of examples of so what the journalists call nobody is prepared for that with Foreign Policy<\/a> youll probably get push back and my a interested is the teflon the law created major Health Concerns<\/a> then became so obvious no one would dare to suppress it. And the proof that cigarette smoking causes cancer by the nazis rieggers still discussing it and if you are interested in it there was a wonderful book by naomi called a the emergence of doubt. If you dont want to read the book editor that a few months later it dvd k mount on the same topic. Another category for push back is an unusual history scandalous abuse of the indigenous population. With a democratically elected government. Rehab a long history of that and a real hot spot with that palestine issue. And the First Amendment<\/a> what we do with the sedition act of 1798 if any person shall a lawful a combine or conspired together to oppose any government in the United States<\/a> to paul s. When dash publishing a false statements the president or congress all your subject to prosecution. Right after, within one decade we have the sedition act. Then tacked onto the impetus 1917 espionage act which Chelsea Manning<\/a> and Edward Snowden<\/a> are very familiar red. And anything contemptuous the u. S. Constitution yad jihadi fatah. What we do is the sedition act. , now with the executive orders and the final pieces from george to be bush with the requirement with the cia director to block that classification or the Vice President<\/a> s original Classification Authority<\/a> this is a classic story is not so tragic it would be humorous dicty need invented is so classification stamp. [laughter] he stamped every piece of paper so the archive is would not release any time soon. We have to move on. We will be backed. Good afternoon. To want to talk about tuberose publisher of powerful publishers that decided not to publish those cartoons since you different scenarios when there was a danish cartoon competition in 2005 with the danish press published pictures had depicting of profit of its Video University<\/a> but you will not find the cartoons and the book and shortly after the Charlie Hebdo<\/a> shooting in paris that had cartoons critical omaha of mohammed even and the pope and obama but other publications decided not to put up the cartoons. So this is a concern because if you have threats against zero dba Decision Maker<\/a> the chorus ben corresponding it is critical of religious figures and that is something we should not do and to so for those satirical remarks that is not the First Amendment<\/a> is about with the definition of religion that if you do favor religion it should be a crime and backing up what could happen but its it comes from societies in which church and state but the criticism of religion with the criticism of the state. And that orthodoxy is combined so that is the underlying power of the state. To say we are a christian nation and it is illegal but under the First Amendment<\/a> we have rejected that notion m part of that goes to the understanding could says religious orthodoxy so that offensive speech is protected. Generally we have a lot of case law that says it is a derogatory toward the gays are the military but sometimes we are not as quick to remember the religious authority with that cj is the core speech to be protected by the First Amendment<\/a> and it is important given the in the standing the power of the state is a process of or the power of religion with everybody else is also a danger to those and not in those power for religions. And the journalistic side the world has changed why arent the Times Publishing<\/a> days . How do we have a system that free speech like this is under attack and may cause ulcers speech itself censored speech. I was mentioning before we started that the threat that ic at the moment to free speech is what i would put in quotation marks but everybody goes out industry with an Armored Vehicle<\/a> we have a very good reason not to allow that protest but i have to add on to others that ignorance with the First Amendment<\/a> freedoms we do a survey every year of attitudes since 1997 by 2 of americans to name of the freedoms let alone what day are. Im not sure i could do a 30 years ago but i have had this job for a while so i can the ignorance part it is easy to lose your freedoms than there is the third one since a large internet search providers to suggest in 2010 to occupy it to occupy that space there is tremendous power with what we see with that algorithm in may take a term so suddenly in the is the lexicon. But there democritus eaters and with the combination of all those things but we see it in berkeley the home of the Free Speech Movement<\/a> the cold air is to suppress speech that may denigrate that is the power to be offensive permits just as was said in the 40 decision to hear things that motivate us to speak out against them. And when we screen thats so for those people or islam. But you know, it is important to hear them so those ideas will survive. Talk about private censorship but the wikileaks and paypal account . I will talk about the paypal account one but on some accounts show women to delist the service and that meant wikileaks when darken or america. With the dutch boy in the figures in a damp one server betty linking it to the servers in neither countrys but it is critical to what you said to List Services<\/a> there arent that many cloud providers if you could count on your fingers. There is some widespread belief to make this the contention read different reason with the danger of the immediate threat there are muslim communities that i may have some threat but as in the fourth grade for most editors that is the freedom not to publish if we have had them and youre not doing ted a journalistic way with those draconian types of laws that is much more analogous it and though this seems when call on in color was introduced on a daily basis and to become so much more graphic their readers all over america said edward to see that. Been to a satellite that content. Right to have a button on my site you dont rock by the box to somehow make that decision so after a timeout have to show that. So an honesty and it was satirical. Had about a 38 or 45 pages. Then to of that publication said his information on insults were a good guide to disk drive that anymore the irony of having the freedom to publish it. Id want to violate the law so the beneficiaries itself. That is important but what strikes me it is hard to understand but i need to show them. And so what seems to meet is the other issues of the cartoons and what stories in the paper that you cant really understand. How can we understand this debate . About seeing a the cartoons that all . So not putting them in there we accept the argument beazer dangerous or destructive even though there are all kinds of arguments. That is my deepest concern. Slow to get the story out there to understand more but yet you leave the story out and when my mother was alive and what we need is discussion. I tried not to go around to say its but our understanding of International Politics<\/a> it is incomplete. So free speeches and complete. With that understanding me that i am so worried about offending somebody we do not get the story at all. Is there over sensitivity . Or getting on the wrong side . There is also the intimidation factor. That was the nsa whistleblower fairly dash up in the organization and decided to expose the wasteful spending on the unconstitutional promise one of the surveillance programs. Them because the topic was too high. After tenures and bankrupting him when their work to block the churches and in debt was inflamed so you need to tell me all this family that sent a clear message. But to send a signal up to get out with Chelsea Manning<\/a> and Edward Snowden<\/a> to toe the line. End to not walk away on this bed is the intimidation factor. And that is the resources that the political thugs have. You contributed but the Obama Administration<\/a> people have said it is day happenstance or a coincidence stood journalists be concerned . Absolutely it is not happenstance. This isnt a democrat or republican issue every Administration Since<\/a> world war to end world war i the government has the inherent desire from criticism but the Obama Administration<\/a> has done it in a way because part of that was not just the threat of jail but the loss of your pension, a classification instructor stuart never work again in your field but they have decided and voiced by a judge that no longer going after the journalists as the primary purpose because that makes them heroes did it is selfdefeating. And you go after everybody end tegea the university of maryland or the Washington Post<\/a> and the next time they sat down to say sorry i have to move but the last time i had to spend half a day what i have this and approved contact with you literally the pta meeting. But ironically edes said that in in defense. But seriously they have raised that to a new level. With the thumb drives and that is the history of a leak. Lid people find a way around it. But an analyst at the pentagon realized and mine resistant to armored resistant vehicles called the mwraps. The forces deflected and at the time we had a flat bottom then it would blow the vehicle over with horrific injuries. They found no villain but they overcharge to save as much money as possible so that meant they were mwraps to send them over in small bunches. Ever other parts of the production process but people died with no recognition the results of the stories and then they credit 16,000 lives saved in the first few years there delivered in great numbers. It is an interesting tension the american and public has always tolerated under the espionage act mitt is illegal to possess documents and the reason we have met as my Kindergarten Teacher<\/a> miss francis once said. She said because. Just because. That is up prosecutors most powerful reason they can choose a statute and prosecute under that to make your life miserable all. End yet we still use of world war was an espionage act. So what you are up against that they can be prosecuted under that there have the authority of the espionage act i can call you into court so the prosecutors have not been as interested the dare i say that is the culture of the First Amendment<\/a>. Then of course, so on the First Amendment<\/a> side so what journalists are really protected . But one thing you can do is expedia rest whistleblowers status. There are some statutes that protect whistleblowers. And that is because its that is good things. Through the history of the vietnam war. The you can control the prosecutions are statutory. By giving whistleblowers more of a status. Than we can come closer to prosecute because the coconspirator by having contact with the gentleman because they dropped that sitting coming close to prosecuting this person. Is that where the Obama Administration<\/a> backed off . But at the final push you think maybe they went too far. But then they realize there is little to be gained. So an editor of quebec to the civilrights era said the ultimate defense was a matter of conscience i will not identify my source i choose not to and i will suffer the consequences. So i think they realized there were not going to disclose what they wanted to disclose and frankly they were releasing details to go into court ended the 80s they were prosecuted but there may be ended administration is willing to take on but i fear frankly to 9 11 for Edward Snowden<\/a> horror Chelsea Manning<\/a>. For claims of other countries that are targeted but what if of dash mass casualtys . We may see that in a way we never have before. So to whistle past the graveyard. So first is important to remember the only person who went to jail for anything connected with our reclaim bell the replay am and the people of the agent were not convicted and one was prosecuted. But because of the grand jury so there is a lot of selectivity in the prosecution almost always and i mention Something Else<\/a> now 35 years into a long prison sentence and this is for leaking information to wikileaks of dade journalistic endeavor however not too many years before that that they were selected of topsecret information and sentence. And one other story that is important is there is another about the same time to do with the coast guard project with the selection of new equipment and some of those were radio sets but there were not waterproof lots of water every where and then the same thing happened to them. You Tell Congress<\/a> about it end eventually the coast guard got waterproof radios. End if i might just include to give you some things but i will not go into the details if you want to know what that is to read the book propaganda i will read the first sentence of the book. Listen to this. This is how the world works with intelligent manipulation with the opinions of the masses is the important element in society they see this mechanism within invisible government that is a true power of the country. Think of Citizens United<\/a> if you ask yourself why . Is 6 that amazon written in 1925. Before rigo to audience questions, if were back in five years what will we talk about . The ever increasing desire to be protected from speech they dont like we see that on College Campuses<\/a> with other demonstrations of a willingness to allow government to suppress that that is counter to the First Amendment<\/a>. That i will say we will still wonder if that has speech aspects but also freedom of religion in a growing bibbers population we see that violent end of it detonation more diverse of increasing numbers to how we find common ground. Are you pessimistic . I spend a lot of my time to figure apo Computing Technology<\/a> to come to the rescue for a sustainable journalism in the environment we dont have journalism those are extensive i am not interested so much that budget survive full journalism that israel keep them alive to do the work. I think they have a shot but how will we protect them . So we have to protect them in other ways. Thinking of the use of operating systems with they can provide an access to the internet but all of those technologies to get them anonymity to keep them from being killed but that is critical in some regions so i hope i can report five years from now and i am pleased to see they are using these techniques. Hats off to them we need to take it one step farther to have their name involved to be compensated and recognize. So i am working on the next project. If you have a question please come to the microphone. I guess it is to the panel to very brief comments and a question. So just two years ago there was prosecution of a journalist may be a the Washington Post<\/a> journalist. So here. So here is the question is there a comments fleur a journalist and the First Amendment<\/a>. Could you comment on that . The currency of journalism for the 21st century is in the physical sense in the marketplace it will be credibility. Some of the circulation allies person said this will not last any way you were so grateful it will pay for it later but is it happening either be giveaway subscription fees. The only way to make money is credibility. So the idea is intended to trade your Legal Resources<\/a> is then the direct way to figure out a physical way the concept of many forces driving journalist going from network news through newspapers that is all they controlled train wreck. For those of you better authors think about doing that every morning. And to shape and content that is always a they have had to face but that the bigger challenge is how many are left . And for a variety of reasons so what i worry about if they have the bodies in the place to the reporting if youre fighting economies of scale and maybe one that is solely focused uncovering the courts have had to do Creative Work<\/a> with a new service you find two ways to cover things ever 4995 a publisher of fortune to utilize that technology now in brazil you can call in on the one payphone and imposed on the web vice transcription and they found a way to do that for survival journalism the 21st century perhaps protected by encryption. To look at it every person can become a journalist but the ability of the gutenberg bible so you said if we believe that is the marketplace of ideas and there are more ways for individuals to get their ideas out. It is easier to get published singlea2 gets end to get their voices out there with that technology. And more people of having access. So with democracy with everybody speech. Than the solution to our per problem us internet that is 95 to nonsense we dont need a larger web so something has to work you cannot have the top dont filter so the other component that goes back to the educational system and the things that we do to allow to filter out the nonsense with those priceless pearls of truth. We have another call coming up in a couple of days with this story in texas depending on who you talk to it was either an invention or a half bomb basically this was reconstructed and any Computer Scientist<\/a> who from electrical engineers could have a look at to have a pretty good confidence the custodial crew could figure out. Or of the other hand no one wants to deal with a 14 yearold who is trying to yank their teachers genes and that is what they do especially in texas. And if you cant deal with a 14 year old kids causing problems then find Something Else<\/a> to do with your time. So that took tons of paper hours amount of hours spent this is been a fascinating panel. Thank you for your expertise. One suggestion to include the definition of this journalist but what about the shield law . Camry correspond the idea of a lot to protect them . At the same time there are concerns if we expand that role they will lose their credibility and their level of protection to draw the circle so wide those that our marginal with what they do the diamond journalist to claim First Amendment<\/a> protection. And to recognize of a journalistic enterprise. There are great disagreements many lawyers say absolutely not. Of course, to start off as brick and mortar definition with a shield laws proposed in the 70s you were credited you get so many viewers because it was defacto Government Debt<\/a> now in the current versions a functional definition that i like a little better decision or journalist performing a journalistic function a letter home to my family is not a journalist by righted to a block for an audience than i am. It does require an Additional Court<\/a> hearing but we do a lot of preliminary hearings in a lot. The dean jersey is licensing coming back to the idea that the government recognizes or annoyance someone as a journalist again the beauty of the web if youre a journalist but the personal ones will exist always love the idea i dont bite the old idea. But loggers that get paid to do this as a kraft of a single issue or life span span, they follow an issue until they get married or move away they dont have that investment of the continuity of coverage. But journalist are there. 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