Transcripts For CSPAN3 Hearing On Review Of Terror Preventio

CSPAN3 Hearing On Review Of Terror Prevention Program July 22, 2022

Radically motivated shooting at a Grocery Store in buffalo, new york just last month, many, many attacks have devastated communities across the country. The response of secretary Homeland Security recently launched the new urgent review to assess the departments capabilities to address this rising threat. We are here today to discuss one of those capabilities in depth. Key piece of department Homeland Securitys toolbox has been the targeted violence and terrorism Prevention Grant program, or tvtp. Since 2011, the department has identified the need to partner with local communities to address the growing domestic terrorism threat. In 2016, dhs launched the countering extremist violence prevention program, but tvtp. However, weak management of that Grant Program undermine Homeland Securitys ability to determine the effect of this due to underfunding and concerns about the inherent anti muslim bias and some of that. It eroded trust with minority communities. It is local Community Leaders who are in the best position to know when and how to engage with a vulnerable individual and ensuring that the portman maintains trust with local communities has to be a top priority. In 2020, dhs relaunch the program under the new tvtp name, with a new Public Health focused approach. Through this new Grant Funding program, dhs supports the efforts of local partners who seem to raise awareness about the domestic violent extremism threat and develop Community Based networks to provide support to individuals who may be radicalized or radicalizing to violence before the crimes are actually committed. Our Witnesses Today represent four of the organizations that have received tvtp grants in the fiscal year 2020 or fiscal year 2021 grant cycles. Their projects executed over a period of two years, represent a wide variety of violence prevention efforts that are funded by this program. Dhs has sought to support projects that implement projects and practices, as well as those who propose and Innovative Solutions to terrorism prevention. These projects fall into a number of categories, including enhancing threat assessment capabilities, challenging online mobilization narratives, and establishing and enhancing local prevention frameworks. The tvtp program has demonstrated some promising early results, but its still relatively new, and although dhs has started the process to ensure an independent review of the efficacy of the projects funded in the 2020 current cycle, that review is still not yet complete. Continued oversight of this program will be necessary to ensure that the mistakes of the past are not repeated today. And i look forward to hearing from the Witnesses Today about how they have ensured the protection of privacy, civil rights, Civil Liberties in their work with individuals and local communities, as well as the plan to measure the impact of their projects. It is of most importance that we get this right, and whatever we can do to curb this horrifying attacks, we must do immediately. With that, i thank you again for joining us today. But here would recognize a Ranking Member, if he is here, is he here . Yes i am, mister chairman. Can you hear and see me . Mister mayor, how are you . Welcome. Coming to you live off the floor. So chairman, thank you for holding this important subcommittee hearing, but department of Homeland Security prevention of violence and terror prevention program. Thank you for joining us today. I look forward to hearing your testimony as experiences had with the program and its recipient, and i am interested in learning about what you found to be the most effective and how you think this program might be able to responsibly grow and benefit from a Larger Community number of communities in the future. Over the years, the terrorism landscape has evolved, and while many grants focusing on terrorism prevention were created as a result of the 9 11 attacks, the current Threat Landscape as a combination of both international and Domestic Violence concerns. We must address and evolve our approach so that it is tackling these new emerging threats, and allocating federal dollars in the most effective way possible. I believe we must do all we can to protect our communities and equip them with the tools they need to combat and prevent targeted violence and terrorism in whatever form it takes. The targeted the tvtp Grant Program is one such tool that could help communities build and strengthen the resiliency capabilities and prevent threats before they arrive. Just last april, i coled the letter for the House Appropriations committee that was focusing on all of these various funding streams, asking to increase funding, and in fiscal year 2022, for the office of violence and terrorism and prevention, which is now offering getting as the center for preventative partnerships and programs, and the tvtp Threat Program itself. This letter highlighted the fact that in recent years, more americans are being killed by domestic violent extremists then by international terrorists. The number of domestic terrorism investigations conducted by the fbi fbi has doubled since 2017. While threats from foreign terrorist organizations remain very real, these figures demonstrate that the landscape is changing. So, too much, some are thinking. Recently, our country is experiencing increased rates of violence, from heartbreaking Mass Shootings to attempted assassination of a sitting Supreme Court justice. We must do more to address violence and its recap causes regardless of root causes. Violence of any kind is unacceptable, and as elected leaders, its our responsibility to find solutions that will promote and protect the safety of our those who we represent. The tvtp Grant Program has a great amount of potential to enhance these important efforts. At the same time, i think its incumbent we make sure this money is well spent, simply spending more taxpayer dollars will not fix the problem. We must make sure that federal grant dollars are spent efficiently, with clear objectives, and measurable outcomes. This Grant Program must be held accountable to the american people, and must ensure that Civil Liberties for all americans are protected. As lead republican on the oversight of accountability program, i have remained committee with working with my call of the local communities and to bolster an improved the ageist programs designed to achieve this goal. It is imperative that we continue to advance bipartisan efforts to increase funding, accessibility, and resources programs that enhanced the safety and security of communities around this country. Targeted violence and terrorism can occur anywhere at anytime. We must remain committed to empowering local leaders and local Law Enforcement to strengthen this resiliency and ensure dhs has the proper funding to support their efforts. I look forward to hearing from our witnesses and the importance of the tvtp grants program, the ways in which they have used these grant awards to protect their communities, and any recommendations that they have to improve the Program Going forward. Thank you, mister chairman, and with that, i give it back. Ranking member mayor, i couldnt agree with you more. The mission to protect american lives from terrorism, very important mission. We have to make sure that every taxpayer dollar we invest in this mission is optimal. Thank you very much, sir. Members are reminded that the committee will operate according to the guidelines laid out by the chairman and Ranking Member in the february 3rd colleague, regarding remote procedures. And without objection, members not on the subcommittee shall be permitted to sit and question the witnesses. Now, i welcome our panel of witnesses, our first witness, we have dr. Kurt braddock, and professor at the school of communication and american university. His research focuses on persuasive strategies used by violent extremist groups to recruit and radicalized audiences targeted by the propaganda. Dr. Braddock also explores theories of communication, persuasion, and social influence can be used to inform practices meant to prevent radicalization among vulnerable audiences. Second witness, miss humira khan, the president and founder of move a think tank specializing and preventing radicalization and Domestic Violence extremism. She has also served as coinvestigator for the department of defenses Minerva Research institute project on terrorist propaganda, as well as strategic adviser to the Un Security Council managing that countering violent extremism portfolio. Our third witness, mr. Paul campbell, a Deputy District Attorney with the l. A. District Attorneys Office, where he has served four of her 25 years. Mr. Kim currently works with the hate crime units within the organized crime division. Our final witness is Lieutenant Colonel chris colin ski, commander of Field Support bureau and Deputy Director of Michigan State police. He is responsible for strategic leadership of the Emergency Management and Homeland Security division, and intelligence operations division. This includes the state of michigans Fusion Center. Without objection, the witnesses full statements will be inserted in the record. I now ask each witness to summarize his or her statements for five minutes. Beginning with mr. Braddock. Welcome, sir. Mister chairman korea, Ranking Member mayor, thank you for having me here today. Members of the committee, thank you for having me to testify in relation to dhss center for prevention programs and partnerships, formerly tvtp, as chairman correa said, im assistant professor of communication at american university, where i am also a faculty fickle at a Research Enterprise focusing primarily on domestic extremism and terrorism called the polarization and Extremism Research and innovation lab. Between these two appointments, i work at the intersection of communication and violent extremism, where i try to understand how communication influences people to engage in violence activities on behalf of ideologies that we see both domestically and internationally. My work in this area really stems from the events of september 11th, two thousands of one, which really instilled in me a drive way to find the while people can engage in such evil, and to find ways, academically, to protect americans from this kind of violence. To this end, for the last 20 years, ive studied violent islamic he had, us fell extremism for the far left and far live alone act of terrorism, Animal Rights activists, single issue terrorists, christian terrorists, and the kind you could find. I said in front of you today to discuss my unique experience with the cbp three program. At present, this program from my its understanding disinformation and conspiracies perpetuated by farright extremists and their intended audiences, and more importantly, how we can prevent those audiences from engaging in violence and support of that disinformation and those conspiracies. I focus on the far right in this project because i know how important this for the u. S. Government to use its budget efficiently, getting the most value for every dollar spent. To that and, i sought to develop a project that addresses would all data shows to be the most significant threat to American Security at the moment, far right violent extremists. Stated most simply, i want to get you all the most bang for your buck. Im glad to say that today, this project has been a relative success, resulting in multiple deliverables foresee p3, as well as a large workshop attended by some of the foremost experts in extremism and disinformation. I hope that our work continues to be used for dhs in this regard. Excuse me. From the outside of this project, the cp3 program, formerly tvtp, has been very enthusiastic and supportive of any research i have done. Personnel at cp3, some of which i will mention by name later, have been in Constant Contact with me throughout my work and have sought to help me address logistic problems associated with my research and every turn. One specific challenge that i ran into in the early goings of the project was related to the impact of the covid19 pandemic. This limited the degree to which i could meet collaborators, Research Participants and other colleagues face to face. Despite the challenges posed by the pandemic in the limitations i put on my research, cp3 continued support by facilitating a completion of deliverables that could be worked on without face to face contact. Some of these include the development of training modules to stakeholders that help them build resilience to disinformation within their communities, as well as training modules for those who would trained others to help build those resilience. After Covid Protocols were sufficiently lifted, we were able to pull that in person for trump of understanding this information in future stretches, one of which was focused on the lgbtq communities, which, as we saw just a couple of days ago, does seem to be a target of the far right, or at least one of them. I understand that my role here today will be to testify in more detail about my experiences about cp3 two gauges value for the american people. To this and, i offer my full endorsements thus far. Not only has the program funded a range of research that addresses a variety of threats facing the country, it also demands accountability. Very few Research Programs require measures of Program Effectiveness to the degree that cp3 does. Because of, this the field is professionals. Prominent media figures, twitters, and betsy pundits have long commented on the effects of certain practices to reduce the risk of violence but it provided no evidence to this effect. Cp3 does not love this kind of fastened loose commentary. If only cp3s demands for Research Accountability and effectiveness, i believe the Program Provides excellent value. But returning to your questions and further detail about my project, i want to thank my name on the record, jon wilder of cp3. He stood my program manager, and hes been a godsend at coordinating, organizing, and demanding accountability on my part for why my project is being effective. With that, i look forward to your questions, and i also apologize in advance if you hear my dog tapping around during my testimony. I think he just wants to be part of the congressional record. So, thank you very much, and i look forward to your portions. Thank you, mr. Braddock, and your dogs comments on the correctional record will be accepted without objection. And now i recognize miss khan for her statement in five. Welcome, miss khan. Good afternoon, chairman. Distinguished members of the subcommittee, thank you for this opportunity to testify about the my name is tumeric on, i am the president and founder of we are a society of security. To prevent domestic terrorism and violence in the country, we essentially focus on one of the threats, and using a Public Health approach as the solution for violence prevention. We use the allocation of resources at the federal, states, and local governments to mitigate and enhance protective factors for crime in the profession the violence. Were actually the recipient of two 2020 tvtp grants, and they focus on these areas. One was up for standard training, race awareness, and the second was and innovation grants quote, Community Resilience on tech systems. It is that to inform platform to help makers, county executives, city managers, and the locally elected leaders to prioritize risk factors, specific to their jurisdictions. And to allocate budgets you mind with their local yes publicly available, open source data of society and productive centers, at the National State and local levels. It does not use any individual level information, nor is it personally identifiable information. So, we are grateful to dhs for funding this innovative approach, and for our litigation for the commitment to protecting Civil Liberties. And, our preliminary analysis focused on hate crimes and domestic terrorism, and over the next few weeks, we will be completing our initial analysis for mass social issues. And as this is finalized, the partnership with the stakeholders, we will be recommending priorities for searing resources to local frameworks workshops at each location to facilitate state and local partnerships based on their needs. In 2020, we also use that the hss tvtp grants for training, and that was implemented with partnership the American Jewish community. And that curriculum includes

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