Going to get a chance to question them on monday. Its an embarrassment that the unclose cla unclassified documents that are in the gift are only able to be reviewed by the members of this committee. As you reside in another committee and a member of congress, youre prohibited from looking at unclassified documents. I know the Management Team at the state department did not want you to be here. We had the issue to be here. Were glad that youre here. All i want you to do is be truthful and tell us what happened and we will do everything that we can to make sure that you get your story and version of what happened out there. First of all i want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to come forward. I have always wanted to speak the truth at this particular situation and the comfort zone in the areas. Go ahead. When did you know there was a problem . As far as the records . Yes, with secretary clinton. The first time that i noticed a problem is when we noted and received documents. When was that . I dont have a specific date. I dont expect you to know the exact date but a time. I dont know the time. When we started to erie receive the documents was that after she had left . Yes. Did you raise any concerns prior to that and did she have a a. Gov account and they say that you raised concerns. Yes, sir, when she came on board and i was told that she would not. Also that was not uncommon because the secretary before her did not have a state. Gov account. So the fact that you were not getting any records from clinton, did you ever raise that question or concern. Were you told to what did they tell you to say or not say about that . Well, no one told me what to say or not say. Again because she did not have a state. Gov account and that was not abnormal because previous secretaries did not have a state. Gov accounts. But you got the dump of the 55,000 pages almost two years after she left, correct . Not knowing the exact time frame, yes, we did receive them. I believe that was december 5 of 2014 when mrs. Secretary clinton returned 55,000 pages of emails. Has the state department after december 5, 2014 have they received any work emails that were federal records . After the 55,000 . Yes. Recently my office was involve in the records that we just received, but in that particular case on the purpose that i was involved with and looking at the records and seeing if they were personal and work related. That was the reason that we got involved with that because the department was receiving so many records and the staffing was that. So mrs. Lang, how many records did the state department receive . Can you be more specific from secretary clinton or other former employees . No, im talking specifically Hillary Clinton that were work emails. How many did you get after december 5th . The federal bureau of investigation that transferred what is that number . Theyre under review. Was it 17,000 . Were not leading the effort. Who is . Who knows the number . Mr. Chairman we have received a number of disk from the fbi and were counting them and we know of 14,900 and the fbi mentioned that there could be tens of thousands of others that were processing right now. And all of those came after december 5th. They were received on may 22, 2015 you asked as representatives of the state department, you asked secretary clintons kendall for an electronic copy. When did she provide that copy to you . Well, intervening in that mr. Chairman, the fbi then took possession of all of the electronic material that mr. Kendall had to the best of my knowledge. So did clinton fulfill the requests . To attorney for secretary clinton provided that material to the fbi. Or it was seized. One of the two. Im asking and its embarrassing that you had the ask them to return it in electronic format. They printed it out in hard copy, did they ever give you an electronic copy for your request . To the best of my understanding mr. Chairman, they no longer have an electronic copy because its in the possession of the fbi. Because it was seized, yep. You have asked the state department to turn that over . We have asked them to turnover anything that maybe federal records. As i mentioned a moment ago they have provided us with a number of disks. Were loading that system and those disks into the Electronic System so then we can first of all have the time periods because there are potential records there prior to when she was sec tory of the state and so we have to. So what number are you up to now . Right now were up to 14,900 dojts that were reviewing in both of the two sames first. Last question and i have exceeded my time. How do i get clintons calendar. Youre arguing that court that cannot get it done. The judge has intervened to force you to get the calendars. How difficult is a calendar . Who is in charge of that by the way. When i know we have 30,000 foia request pending we have a requirement under statue to do what is called historical classification and thats 26 million cases in the last five years im talking about Hillary Clinton calendar. I would like to see as the chairman over the over site committee, i want to see clintons calendars. When can you provide that to me . I will see when will you get back to me by . By tuesday i can giver you an idea of when that information might be available if i might sir, the ap requests was part of a request that were engaged in and another thing is that its a point is that and given the other requests for the foreign relation sir seres, theres simply no way mr. Char man that i can deal with the Government Agency and 275 posts within 30 days. Thats impossible. Eventually i would produce no new documents and not have a foia problem. Theres a few resource time and other issues have to be dealt with here. What were doing is for all of these foia requests my request is not a foia request. We have produced and provided yall with 185,000 pages of documents and we will continue to work with this to provide more. Thank you. I do want to point out that you went over on the time and i pray for equal time, thank you. I want to ask you of the former secretary emails on the aol aaccount. I want to point out that he served between 2001 and 2005 of secretary of the state. During that they were 92 million data breaches at aol. So as secretary powell laid out in his own book here and i have enormous respect for secretary powell, and we remain as a country thankful for his service. I want to point out how were ignoring what rice and powell did and instead the committee has targeted clinton. This worked for me and leadership in Collin Powell. My personal email account on a laptop allowed me direct access to anyone online, so i started to shoot emails to my principal assistants and ambassadors and to my foreign minister colleagues who like me were trying to bring the ministry into the 186,000 mile world and referring to the speed of light i guess this is being done on a completely different private line. Unlike clinton, powell did not print or save out emails. I have a letter that you sent youre wanted all of powells that were not in the record system, is that correct . Yes, sir. That was include the emails on the aol account . Yes, sir. Did secretary powell how many emails did he produce pursuant to the request . Well, he responded that he did not have access anymore to any of those records. He did not have access to them. I have another one and you contacted aol to see if they were on the system, is that correct . Yes, sir. To your knowledge, did powell do that . We never received a response. Okay. I got another letter from you ambassador kennedy dated november 6, 2015 aand you informed the National Archives that secretary powell never contacted aol, isnt that right . Thats correct, sir. Again ambassador kennedy in july of 2015 athey asked the state department to contact aol directly to determine and i quote whether its possible to retrie retrieve the email records that are present. Mr. Kennedy, did you ever contact aol . Our lawyers advised were not a party. Okay. So thats a no. So you have the chief officer asking you to contact aol and youre saying no and the attorneys are saying no. Telling us that we can not make a request for someone elses record. That request has to be made by them. They they told you that there was classified information from the acoucount, did you contactol then. We asked secretary powell to contact aol. You have a responsibility here by virtue of the position. Yeah, we contacted secretary powell. I know this is somewhere in the neighborhood of 50,000. Just 50,000. So far. Given to this committee to the investigation of secretary clinton. I thought that we said there were about 168,000. Those were thats not we have 23 different requests from this committee. We provided three documents. Great. That the fbi. 50,000 to 3. I they shows you the sided here. Has anyone picked up the phone and called aol . As i said in response to your earlier question, sir. We can not get records of another individual from their provider. I dont get this. This has the archives asking you to contact. You asked secretary powell to contact aol and he did not do that. Now, you remember that secretary powell serve in a critical time. There was information provided about weapons of mass destruction that lead this country to war. There were huge consequences at that time and yet were silent on that and we have thing in the investigation on clinton and this is not how this is supposed to work. I think if were going to do the this and put the secretary of the state and National Leader under the scoop, it should not be just, you know, half and we have this going over here and we have tens of thousands of investigation of secretary of clinton and we have zero. Three documents that you say that you have provided with respect to secretary powell. And i think the leader earlier indicated that this whole attempt was to rip downhill hill and ruin here reputation. Thats what this is about. Were spending look, i did not have to spend any taxpayer money to show that he used a private email system and unclassified system to go on aol that was hacked 92 million times. I did not have to spend taxpayer money to find that. I had to read his book in his own words. Here we are and the only reason that were doing it is because she is running for president of the United States. Thats the plan and god awful truth. Thats what it is about. Its a shame. Its a shame. I yield back. I think that the gentlemen and the letter that we sent in january of this year asked the state department for the current and past four secretary of state and i asked the consent to enter this record dated january 9th into the record. This is the document and i am wond wondering what was the follow up from the folks . Its in complete. We dont have the information yet. On Collin Powell and rice . We asked for the current and past sec torys of the state. I want to know what we have gotten. Let me get that from the staff. Its an appropriate question. Its in complete. We asked for it not of just this current one and of the past one, but the past four. What about aol . I mean what were going after Hillary Clinton its like we have so much power that we would want to get the records to go to aol. First order of business i ask to enter this into the record and without obstructijection, i enter. I want the federal records . All of them. All of them. If we have to use the power of committee, im willing to do that. Do you hear that mr. Kennedy, were going to work with you to get that done. Thank you mr. Ranking member. Can i asked one thing . Sure. In consultation with the four prior secretaries of the state, neither secretary al bright or rice used email. They have certified that to us. And thats my understanding. I would also note that we rely on the Inspector General and theres a report on this and its very frustrating that the Inspector General and in partial and in there to do their job and the only person that refuses to interact is Hillary Clinton. Thats not the fact. She will not cooperate with the Inspector General. Theres one investigation that were conducting relating to whats happening here we have other things that booer doing in a bipartisan way. Theres one investigation. And thats of Hillary Clinton. We were quiet until the fb skpirks when they testified and did not ask the questions, it makes it that theres a job to do. I look forward to working with you to get the records. Yeah, i agree. I dont want it to be a one sided investigation. I hear you. Just of the last comments that he reached out to secretary al bright and secretary rice, secretary rice sir between 2005 and 2009 was into the era of email. Have you checked did she have a personal account . They certify that had they did not use email. I find that hard to believe. I spoke with rice and that was his response. I they he was asking about secretary albright. Now, i recognize the gentlemen from florida. For the record ambassador kennedy, you said that they did not use the two previous did not use email; is that correct . We have no record and have talked to them and to confirm that. Again the way that we got into this folks was that we had legitment investigation and the fact is mr. Finey how long have you been with the position with the state and records zm. Yes, sir, i came to the state department. Real close. What year . Yes, sir, i came to the state department of july 2006. And the fact is that in 2011 actu actually did you go to lang and lang made you aware that she was using a private server . How did you find out that she was using a private server . You asked if she was using a government account and the response came back no. Who told you that . That was told to within the serm and specific person, i cant remember. That goes back some time ago a. Now, you meet with folks and these are the members of congress. We have the same obligation and we have the information and some of that we can not take with us. Youre not supposed to and in fact its against the law. Okay. You met with the secretary staff and did you met with them or the staff . Met with the staff. And what they had the turnover. Did you provide them with that information . Well, first of all who was in the meeting i will have to go back. Okay. Was she there . Again yes. But you told them what the obligation under the law and requirements under the state department are returning information . Yes, sir, myself and the abc records officer. At the time did you mention anything about what was on the private server of business that may have been conducted from and in an official capacity . Again, i had no idea but you told them anything dealing with a Public Information should be part of the state department and documents that you are the cu custodian of and should be turned over to you . We told and we heard the request within when they left. Im told that it took two and a half years before the data dump, is that correct ambassador kennedy . Can you when did you get the first dump of information from the clintons . In december, sir. Of last year. December 2014. But it was some time after they left . Thats correct, sir. Two years after they left. I had two and a half years. Sir, if i may . No, i have a limited amount of time. Were you told that was all of the information. Did anyone say that was all the information that they had in the emails . We were talking of the delivery of 2014 and the 55,000. Was there a transmittal document . Did the document say this is all that we have or everything that we have found . Blooif that its something i would like to see that transmittal document to you. What the fb i can did to the best of my understanding, sir is use forensics my point is that theres a requirement under the law to turnover the documents and this gentlemen is responsible and told them what to do and the terms of if law and the regulations and they were to comply, and they did not. They according to their i want to see the documents and they did not. We have the dumps of information on the testimony that you gave her today. I want to know about the destruction of the hammering of the blackberries. Those were personal blackberries that the secretary owned. That was not federal property. Do you know . Youre the custodian of the property . Sir, im responsible for the records but they have to give over the property. You dont know anything about the hammering of the blackberries and whether theyre personal . I want to know for the record too the staff blackberries that were turned over, and if any of them were not turned over, if they were destroyed too. Mr. Chairman, i request that information. Were reck fliognizing mr. Cummins. I am extremely concerned as i said before because of the classification. We have been being accused of crimes and a lot of it is very significant on what is classified and not classified. I think do you agree with that . I want to ask you on the instances when the experts from different agencies disagree on whether the information is classified. I have an email here dated april 10th 2011 and it was written by someone by the state department and op rageration ce and based on the phone call by Christopher Stephens to libya. Its on the screen. In the first line it says and i get sbu for a special on voi zechbs and what does sbu mean . It means sensitive and unclassified. So this email was specifically marked unclassified, is is that right . Yes, sir. It appears that they considered this information unclassified, is that correct . Thats correct, sir. So anyone reading this is going to assume that it was not classified, is that correct . Thats correct, sir. The problem is that at some point after the email was sent the Intelligence Committee came in and claimed that was classified. The state department sent a letter to the senator corker explain that the Intelligence Committee was wrong. It said someone with intelligence claimed and should have been redacted in secrete. The let er from the state department goes on to say that just as of yesterday the email should have been treated as classified and was surprising and in correct. Ambassador, why was it surprising that someone in the Intelligence Committee claimed that this email was classified . Mr. Ranking member, theres a common discussion and a Common Thread that runs between the state department and the Intelligence Community constantly. Thats called parallel reporting. The state Department Officer in the course of his