To what we are doing right now to be honest with you. Because it talked about suspension of enrichment. It didnt say they cant enrich. It talked about suspension and then the negotiations would decide what is or isnt allowed as long as it meets the terms of the nonproliferation treaty and so forth. That is the situation right now. And Wendy Sherman in her discussion didnt raise any violations i know because there havent been any violations. We have sanctioned individual companies during the course of this time with the interim agreement, we have actually imposed more sanctions and weve sanctioned individuals and companies and there are those being held accountable. And iran operates light water reactors at bashir and they pose left of a risk for the potential of civilian Power Production than other types of reactors that are prohibited by the u. N. Security council so what they are doing now is not, in fact, a violation. And weve been clear in making in defining that the purpose of the negotiations were in now with iran is to ensure that their Nuclear Program is exclusively for civilian purposes. That is the key here. They could have a civilian peaceful program so when you get into the number of centrifuges and this and that, if you have a civilian power plant and producing power legitimately and not a threat to proliferation, you could have 190,000 or more centrifuges and if they are power plants producing power. So the key here is is this a peaceful program and are the measures in place capable of making sure you know it is peaceful. That is the standard were trying to apply. We go now to judge ted pope of texas. Thank you, mr. Chairman and thank you mr. Secretary for being here. Starting with isis. I think it is important that we define different participants in this war with isis. I think it is important that we define who the enemy is. Whether its isis or i. S. Or isil or whatever it is being called. I define them as being islamic terrorists, i dont know what you define them are. And the second is we need to define who the vikes arebe victims are. The victims are people who criticize them, in the press and jews and christians and those who dont believe in muslim and the third is we need to define why they do this. What is the cause of this reign of terror throughout the world. My theory is they do this in the name of their radical Islamic Religious beliefs. And then the plan. But we dont have time to discuss what the plan is to defeat them. So how would you define the enemy . Would you define them as islamic, radical terrorists . Well, i think many of them are. Not all of them. But many of them are. And certainly the top leadership al baghdadi and folks around him, are formulating their concept of the caliphate on the basis of their interpretation of islam. Okay. So some of them are. To a degree they are establishing a caliphate and hanging some of their notions of organization and discipline and battle based on that. There is a component of it that is a distorted sense of islam. Who are the victims . Well, but let me also point out. Im sore griy im sorry, i want to get an answer for all three questions. I will give you an answer. And there are also criminals and thugs and adventurers and thrillseekers involved in this as a criminal anarchy in all of it notwithstanding the basis they want to claim with respect to islam. And it is important in coming at this that you not empower them through the language we use to be able to make the argument to their peemt that in fact to their people that in fact, we are at war with islam and they are building that up as a recruitment tool and we crate our own problem. I think that is what people are trying to be sensitive to. And when you get into the deep analysis, yes, there are clearly very distorted sense of radical extremist islam being put forward. The victims are anybody who stands in their way or people who are different or who have different beliefs, they can be Christians Yazidis officers and Police Officers who are sunni and trying to stand up for their village or their town. In mosul, they kill the mayor and young people they think are appo state. So answer the third question. So why do they do this . They do this for power and for the extension of the the leaders for their misguided notion of their caliphate and the desire to be the power that is defining not only their version of islam but to have the power within that region to run the show. Reclaiming my time i have another question on a different issue. Twitter, under federal law, it is it is against the law to aid or assist or provide assistance to a Foreign Terrorist Organization as you know. Foreign terrorist organization, isil isis uses twitter to recruit, to raise money and to spread the hate propaganda throughout the world and myself and others have asked twitter to pull down the sites because they are a Foreign Terrorist Organization that is being allowed to do this. We twitter pulls down child pornography sites without a problem and my question to you, secretary kerry, four years ago the white house said they were going to come up with a plan to deal with this issue and i have seen no plan yet 2011, but be that as it may what is your position, the state departments position on twitter allowing Foreign Terrorist Organizations to use an American Company to recruit, to raise money and spread their propaganda. We would never have allowed the North Carolina times to take out an ad for the nazis during world war i. Can i get an answer . I would like one. We dont like it and there is a discussion taking place with the entities of the social media. And we have made some progress. But you havent seen the videos posted and there are things being reduced. So some progress is being made. And the final comment, when you ask who the victims are, the primary and most significant number of victims are muslims and people need to focus on that. We are going to go to mr. Brian higgins of new york. Thank you mr. Chairman and thank you mr. Secretary. Just on the iran issue centrifuges and iran enrichment and capability and they have had 164 centrifuges, for weapon s weaponsgrade material and today there is over 19,000 and it is suggested that 9400 are operatal centrifuges to enrich uranium. How important is the number of centrifuges to the negotiations ongoing right now . It is important. Do we accept that iran should have thousands of operational centrifuges to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes . Well that question is so general that is doesnt allow for the question of what is their production level, what are they doing et cetera, et cetera. Im not going to get into the numbers at this point in time except to say to you, we have established a critical measurement of needing a oneyear breakout time for a reasonable period of time and an ability to be able to limit the impact of whatever is produced by whatever centrifuges are running. In other words you have to look at the stockpile and what happens to the spent fuel, what happens to other things. So there is a larger equation of how you measure what is happening. But the answer is it is part of that equation and we are very much focused on it. Secretary, let me ask you this were sitting at the table with the iranians, negotiating a very important issue relative to the Nuclear Program and intentions and not only to the region but to the world. And concurrently we are involved in iraq, syria and the iranian influence there, despite the americans believing that we have a friendly government in iraq, it seems as though the loyalties of that Iraqi Government are more closely aligned with iran and the forces commander. And lately against the Islamic State, the concern is they have a bad history with us. We authorize the president s request for military force in iraq and we are going to be right in the midst of fighters who are experienced but also have a contemporary history of shooting our guys, essentially. So while we are both fighting isis, there must be concerns on the part of the the American Military about how do you influence the shia militia there also fighting the same target . Were greatly concerned about some of the behavior of the militia and that has been raised very directly with the Prime Minister. Weve raised it with the iranians. It is its a component of the violence on the ground and has created some challenges with respect to the sunni participation and some of the changes and reforms we are looking for. But by enlarge at large, iranian engagement with respect to with respect to iraq, while it is present in the form of so many, and even some people fighting in the northeastern corners, the fact is there was a greater direct daytoday control and problem presented with former Prime Minister maliki which is one of the reasons why the army wouldnt stand and fight in mosul and the Prime Minister is working very hard to with the oil deal made with their bill, with the movement of weapons with the peshmerga and the work with the tribes to change that dynamic. And so, yes, iran has influence and they are present and is doing things but i think overall there is a concerted effort to focus on the problem of isil. And they are all focused on that. Were going to mr. Matt salmon of arizona the chairman of the subcommittee. Mr. Secretary i would like to ask you about the hostage policy. As you know, Kayla Mueller an aspiring woman was captured and held by isis terrorists for over 18 months before she was tragically killed in their captivity. While kayla is the First American woman captured and held and brutally killed by the terrorist thugs, other americans have suffered this fate which i hope we can all agree is unacceptable. Now recently kaylas family gave an interview of what they went through over the last 18 months with the terrorists seeking a dollar ransom and the administration announced they traded five known and dangerous territories for Sergeant Bergdahl, isis changed their demands from money to the release of those jailed here in the u. S. And as soon as they learned they negotiated, they demanded more for Kayla Mueller. Imagine how the family felt they would negotiate for a soldier who deserted his unit and not for their daughter. And you can ex pound on this, but were you consulted when they decided on a swap for Sergeant Bergdahl and can you say yes or no no. Yes, i was advised. And knowing you what you now know, would you advise them to make the same decision . Bergdahl was a member of the military being held as a member of a conflict and as we draw down there is a exchange of prisoners, he was not a hostage. Hostages are people who are civilians or individuals taken for the specific purpose of ransom and we do not negotiate for ransom. That is our policy. And you can see the tracking and im not disputing that. But look at the evidence of other countries who have paid im not going name them here, and they have had significant increases of their citizens being taken hostage and there is just Revolving Fund of money coming in from 5 million to 10 million to significant sums and it funds terrorism. So it is a hard distinction. Kayla mueller just a extraordinary young woman. And im sure you can understand why it is difficult for her parents to understand that distinction . It is very hard. And weve talked to her parents and our people we have reached out. I wont tell you that every contact with one agency or another met with a response that perhaps it should have or was handled as effectively as it might be which is why president obama has instructed a review of that process and weve engaged in it ourselves in the state department. And were doing a lot to deal with that. But the bottom line is isil is responsible for her death. We dont even know precisely how she died. But isil is responsible. Thank you, mr. Secretary. I totally agree that isil is responsible. But the distinction that has been made is something that i think is confusing to a lot of people and it doesnt seem like it was very confusing to the isil folks because they ended up upping the ante with her negotiations after this happened. Our interpretation is they were never serious. They mounted money they put on americans indicated it was it was not a serious deal for them. But we dont pay money and we never have and were not going to start. Im not saying we should. But i do believe that the whole bergdahl swap sent a message, this distinction youve talked about to me seems a distinction without a significant difference. And i think that it did send a message that we do negotiate with terrorists and i yield back the balance of my time. Thank you for yielding your time. And now to rhode island. Thank you mr. Chairman and thank you for mr. Secretary for your work around the world and during very challenging time so were all grateful for your service. Ill have a series of questions ill submit for the record and ask for written response for portugal and thes aors and human Peace Keeping and the fight in ebola and west africa and the armenian joano side and i genocide and i look forward to your responses to. That but i want to talk about the atrocities in syria particularly torture and murder and even some claims of the use of chemical weapons. Regardless of the person responsible for these crimes, i think most would agree that they warrant immediate attention by the international community. I know russia and china have impeded our efforts and im wondering what we are doing to help push a referral to the International Criminal court or other things to hold those individuals accountable for at trosities that are happening atrocities happening in syria. And as we consider the president s request for the authorization of the use of military force, many of us are very concerned about what our partners in the region are doing, what the europeans are doing or those such as saudi arabia and jordan and the uae playing a the capacity to play a more prominent role and there is the consensus this will require air operations and Ground Troops commitment not to use u. S. Ground troops and what is the capacity and we heard about 60 countries, but what are they doing and what do they have the capacity do they have to do and how much of this will fall on the United States to degrade or defeat isil or isis . Thank you, congressman. Good questions. On syria i dont have any doubt in my mind that Bashar Al Assad has engaged in war crimes. I mean the use of gas against your own citizens is a war crime. The use of barrel bombs indiscriminately against women and children there are other examples. Starvation as a tool of war is a war crime. There are things that are mounting. And mounting that kind of case and putting together that evidence in the middle of a war is always very complicated, number one. And number two, there are other policy choices that are complicated about the lodging of a of a complaint, et cetera and moving forward. Because it can greatly effect the options that are then available to you in terms of negotiating and coming up with a political solution. So there hasnt been at this point in time i think there is evidence being collected and people are examining you saw the photographs of the 10000 or so people alleged to have been tortured. Many of those issues by the way, there is not a clarity about the evidence of who ordered it or who did it, et cetera, et cetera. So i dont think cases are ripe, even though there is a lot of evidence. And for the moment, i think the appropriate entities are busy gathering and evaluating that evidence and i think some has been referred to the hague but im not sure exactly what specifically specifically. With respect to our allies in the coalition, we have said from day one there are many Different Things that each country in the coalition can do. Some countries dont have the ability to contribute air power or to engage with troops. But they have an ability to contribute with respect to humanitarian instance or japan is doing humanitarian assistance. They have the ability to provide assistance in turning off the flow of money by putting their financial and Banking Systems at the disposal of the effort to cut off the foreign financing. Almost every country has been ability to contribute to try to reduce the flow of foreign fighters going in. So airport practices, police practices, exchange of information, intelligence sharing, all of these are part of the protocol that general allen and brett mckirk are sharing with this Global Coalition. And then there is the effort to change the messaging, to counter isis message and discredit it in the religious community and that effort is a very, very significant part of this and all of those 60 nations are taking part in that one way or another. Through the social media, through conferences, by helping to organize their muslim communities, to have the imams clerics, grand malt eaves speak out and the egyptians have spoken very clearly condemning isil as an organ of satan and a criminal enterprise that has nothing to do with islam. So there is an enormous amount of Global Enterprise now being focused on the effort of isil. But in the end, those who are in syria, i think, we all understand, will have to be taken on directly on the ground in addition to the air power and a number of countries in the region have spoken of their willingness under the right circumstances to commit troops to that effort. And that is an ongoing policy debate that will take place now. And were going to california to mr. Issa. And thank you for being one of the leading characters on Foreign Policy long before you came to this job. Today we are largely talking about budget request and ill try to stick to that. But i want to thank you for the work being done on the onetwothree agreements south korea and china. Im very supportive of our partner in south korea and in trying to meet their expectations. Obviously