The biggest thing it had to do with the project was where would the interstate go. The engineers worked with the possibility for a long time of running the interstate over the top of the dam. That would have required a larger dam, of course. But all of this is con verveg at the same time. The interstate planners are making their plans for which path the interstate is going to ta take. The decision to run it through Summit County the final decision wasnt made until 1960. By that time, denvers engineering of the dam had moved on. So they ended up running it along the base of the dam rather than on it. It did have some affect. Like i said, by the time the interstate was designated, it was no longer really an issue. It was essentially a water project. Yes. I think we have time for one more question. Which one of you wants to ask the question . Flip a coin. I wanted to know your guesstimate on Vacation Land of the huge traffic jams we see now on 70. How is that going to impact our economy and the things you have been talking about . Well, im an academic. I like to pick on the premises of questions sometimes. What i would say is the fact that so much of the debate over interstate 70 has revolved around not so much the Environmental Issues but about congestion, about the question of how for recreational enthusiasts it takes too long to get up there or to get back or for business interests, it might start to harm their business if people are deterred by how nasty and congested it has become. I think it speaks to the limited the limits of environmental consciousness i was making the case for. You miss a lot of other ways of looking at the issue. Which way that would go, i have no idea. I got asked that question in the afternoon version of this talk. I quoted the famous saying that a historian is a profit looking backwards. Historians are useless for projecting the future. It seems like when they expanded the twolane tunnel just east of idaho springs, that the strongest Political Support stands for doing some widening here or there. But as to whether that might change, whether there might be a paradigm shift toward rail or a new way of viewing the problem i raise the issue of things like as environmental conditions change, if oil becomes less cheap, if climate changes were radically transforms the regulational industry both s things, we might be forced to change. In terms of what the future holds for interstate 70, thats the mushy answer i will give you. I would like to thank dr. William philpott one more time. [ applause ] i know you all have more questions for him. I wish we had more time. The lecture can go keep going o. Step on up. He would be happy to answer your question individually. Otherwise, stop by the gift shop on your way out. Im here to answer questions as well. We will see you next month at our rocky flats lecture. Thank you very much. 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Since that time also on thursday, thanksgiving day, we will take an American History tour of various native american tribes. Thats at 10 00 a. M. Following washington journal. At 1 30, attend aer sa ceremon Supreme Court justices at 8 30 p. M. Eastern. Thats this thanksgiving week on cspan. For our complete schedule go to cspan. Org. A portion of the american bar Associations AnnualHomeland Security conference with senior government officials and others discussing Public Private partnerships. This is about an hour. Good morning. This is the panel on Public Private partnerships for security and resilience. I just want to tell you a little bit about how this panel came to be. We on the Standing Committee on law and National Security began hearing questions from lawyers about Information Exchange between the government and the private sector about how to handle intelligence sharing. We began hearing all the problems and questions from the private sector, about tort liability and the difficulty in finding out who was in charge. And on the government side, about the difficulties dealing with the federal Advisory Commission act and how it didnt always provide the right vehicle for dealing with private sector. And in general, conversations about what the quid pro quo was. And at the same time, there was a strategic discussion going on about 9 11, about preparedness of the private structure and Infrastructure Protection. And after katrina, a wide recognition of the dependency on the private sector for reopening the economy. After sandy, a number of questions about how funding could flow from the federal government to it the private sector. Of course, an ongoing conversation about Cyber Security and the private sector role in dealing with most of the threats. So out of that came the working group on Public Private partnerships. And we reached out to the Homeland Security section of the Administrative Law committee. With help and support many others, we got going. I have to say that what really lit a fire under us was the qhsr, the most recent qhsr, which calls for a new framework for sprtrengthening Mission Execution through Public Private partnerships. So were hoping to produce a book that will be useful to the lawyers in this room both in government and in the private sector that compiles the lawyers that govern those relations such as they are today, that looks at all the executive orders that are relevant and that also provides a set of models. So when you get asked a question as a lawyer, you can look at the various models for dealing with that question. And well identify where there are the Unanswered Questions and the problems Going Forward. Im sure we will be reaching out to many of you in this room as we complete this project. Its a Bar Association project. Its always team work. To see what whether your primary concerns have been addressed. We have a wonderful panel today with three really not only expert thinkers about the subject but the originating minds in many respects. Were going to introduce all i will introduce each as they begin to speak. Our first speaker appropriately is allen cone. He is currently the assistant secretary for strategy planning analysis and risk in the dhs office of policy which makes him the number two in that office. A very busy man. Were honored to have him here. One thing i wanted to say about him in this context is that before he went to law school, he was an emt in new york. While he was in law school, he t continued works as a disaster assistant employee and as a planning officer. He has a really handson feel for issues at the local level and the da to day issues that are faced in the Public Private relationship. He join eed the government in 2006. I met him when he led the first Homeland Security review for dhs. So he has a very rich and textured understanding of the back and forth. He will give us the framework under which dhs is operating today. Thanks for the opportunity to sit on this panel, especially with colleagues who i have worked a lot with and who we have done a lot of good Work Together. As susan noted, we just completed the second Homeland Security review. This is the congressionally mandated review of Homeland Security that we conduct every four years. The first review, which we conducted in 2009 and released in 2010 was really aimed at answering the question of what is Homeland Security. Laying out a vision, mission arizoai areas and hopefully some of you if not most of you are familiar with that. In the Second Review we didnt look to repeat the same exercise. But instead, looked to conduct a more focused and collaborative strategy planning and an littic activity consistent with setting johnsons emphasis on enhancing unity of effort within our department and across all of the participants in Homeland Security activities. So in addition to identifying a number of riskbased priorities for Homeland SecurityGoing Forward based on the strategic environment, based on trends and challenges, one of the things that we did identify and highlight in the second quad renial review was the question of Public Private partnerships. Why did we single that out given the range of Different Things that a Homeland Security review could focus on . Well, for a number of reasons. First, todays Homeland Security challenges dont observe traditional organizational or political boundaries. You need look no further than the headlines of todays paper or those of the last several weeks. Biological challenges, Cyber Security, climate change. These are not things that respect neat, physical organizational boundaries and put stress on organizations of all types. Second, there are clear interdependencies between the public and private sectors such as in the Global Supply change. What that means is that catastrophic events in one part of the world can cause ripple affects across business and government globally. Third, in rapidly evolving domains like the arctic, partnerships can enhance security while promoting and spoeri supporting open markets. In addition, partnerships can be an answer to increasing resource constraints, physical environment not only at the federal level but across state, local, territorial and tribal governments, most of the private sector nongovernmental organizations, all of the organizations face increasing fiscal pressures, reasons why we should look as to how we can best Work Together with one another. Both leveraging the ways that we have looked at Public Private partnership before and enning news ways that we can engage in partnership. For all of you who have been following Homeland Security since the inception of the department and before with all of its various strands, you know Public Private partnerships are not a new concept in Homeland Security. Perhaps best known partnership in Homeland Security is the national Public Private partnership to advance security and resilience of Critical Infrastructure thats set forth in the National InfrastructureProtection Plan with our Sector Coordinating Councils and government coordinating councils. Its not the only type of Public Private partnership in Homeland Security. Relationships and agreements with airlines and shippers and multinational corporations, with respect to the movement of goods and people across our borders. The Community Initiative for National Preparedness and Emergency Management. The port relationships, coast guard maintains with a variety of entities that operate in our port environments. There are a number of examples of successful Public PrivatePartnership Models across Homeland Security. One of the things that we wanted to do in the Second Review was to try to best leverage and cross supply the lessons that we have learned in each of those circumstances to look at are there ways we can generalize len s lessons from the experiences, look at the range of private Public Partnerships and distill something, government, industry, nongovernment organizations, look at different challenges and see if Public Private partnerships of one type or another would be appropriate for addressing that challenge. So there are two things that we sought to develop. One was a checklist, a way to think through Public Private partnerships. The second was a set of arc types. Arc types that generalize things that we use currently or that are used in other types of governmental activities outside of the security and resilience area but where the lessons can be applied in the hole lay eied security area. The checklist we developed has eight elements. Its just its a way of walking through looking at a challenge and examining whether Public Private partnerships are a way, a better way, perhaps the best way to address the challenge. First, to identify the critical factors that might impact the issue and the partnership. The capabilities necessary, the authorities that are at issue. What expertise is necessary . Whats the range of stakeholders, the scope and scale of the problem . Second is to determine the Value Proposition, pursuing a partnership versus alternatives, whether thats independent action by the private sector, independent action by the government. The Value Proposition both for the government and for nongovernmental entities participating in the activity. And then next two are what we see as the crux of the challenge. Can we define the outcomes that the parties are trying to achieve, particularly the shared outcomes that were trying to achieve . Because when we identify the shared outcome, again, that links to that question of the Value Proposition for governmental and nongovernmental entities. As important as the outcomes are where what interests are at play and where do they align. Governmental and nongovernmental interests will not necessarily be the same. Government has interests in enhancing security and resilience. Industry has interests in increasing profitability, brand recognition, market share. Burt that doesnt