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The Muslim Brotherhood count saying as many as 600 dead. The clash began last night when troops swarmed two pro morsi encampments and opened fire. The white house condemned the violence and urged egypt to find peace instead of imposing a state of emergency. Josh earnest had this to say this morning. We believe that the state of emergency should end as soon as possible. Violence is simply not a solution in egypt or anywhere else. Violence will not create a road map for egypts future. Violence only impedes the transition to an incollusive civilian government. The world is closely watching egypt and is very concerned. Michael that of course was john kerry speaking. The interim president has resigned saying. The situation in egypt is changing by the minute, and more unrest seems inevitable. For perspective we turn as we always do to los angeles, and our very own egypt expert, noreen moustafa. Welcome back into the war room, noreen. Thanks, michael. Michael you have family in egypt. How are they . What are they saying now . My own family is representative of society in egypt right now, and that is pretty divided. I do have a lot of people in my family who do support this crackdown who saw the Muslim Brotherhood as sort of an impediment to the road map the army put forward to democracy. Its vitreal on both sides. Michael the government has announced a state of emergency. What exactly does that mean . What that means to me is were basically back at january 24th, 2011. One of the hallmarks of the regime was he kept this emergency law going for all 30 years. And this was one of the major asks from the revolution, so to see that back in place and curfews back in place, you cant help but think we have taken a huge step backwards. Michael as we mentioned Vice President , Mohamed Elbaradei has resigned. What is the significance of that . Whatever coalition we saw form after the june 30th, protest when morsi was deposed is quickly faulting apart. Elbaradei had been signalling all week that he didnt support such a crackdown. It appears the general made the decision without elbaradei and went forward with the plan. So not having any sort of liberal secular in that government is very troubling now. Michael a lot of liberal and secular egyptians supported the military when it ousted morsi. Now what happens . I think you cannot look at this and feel like this is the military overstepping and a gross injustice that was done. Just very tragic. Michael yeah, totally. How much influence does the United States really have right now . And is there anything the Obama Administration can do . There is always this threat that well take away our 1. 3 billion of aid that we provide from egypt, but what im hearing from there is they dont really care right now. That 1. 3 billion seems pretty insignificant to what they are getting from other middle eastern countries. But no matter who wins, well support them. Michael and do you see a settlement . I think were a lot further from a political solution today than we have been in a long time. I hope we can move forward from here, but very devastating, and to not expect retribution, i think would be foolish. Michael nobody on television explains this better than you, noreen moustafa. Thanks so much for being on the show as always. So happy to be in the war room. Michael love having you. We move now to the thankfully nonviolent domestic front, with the gop road show is roll going boston, today prince riebus oh, i got it wrong again i mean Reince Priebus is railing against fairness. The theme is make things happen. Which in gop speak means dont let anything happen, ever. More than 160 members of the rnc will be in attendance. Preibus will ask rnc members to vote on a measure withdrawing from the primary debate if they air a documentary about Hillary Clinton. And then theres a presentation highlighting new technology. Were guessing newt will explain you can now take pictures on your cell phone. Why boston . Well, one of the most liberal citys in the world . Does reince love the sox, newt want chaw da . Who knows. Joining us now is political reporter and war room favorite chris moody, welcome back into the war room. Thanks for having me. Michael i didnt mean to get so partisan with the most toeing of the line of all of the reporters, but i had to have fun with the folks in boston. We have spent a lot of time chronicling republican insanity, and is this just going to continue . Well this is an ongoing effort like you said. Its a check in on the status. Back after the election in january of 2013, they released a report on how they can try to launch their comeback for 2014 and then the big time 2016. They are going into communities where republicans have not had a presence, they are spending millions of dollars trying to be at minority events in inner industries where they have not been before. And now they are going to discuss how is that going . Its a work in progress for them and i think they are well aware of how they are doing. Michael yeah, and its important to realize that they think of it that way too. Recently san diego congressional candidate karl demaio, he is gay, supports reproduction rights, and he is a republican. Is there any chance well see more candidates like demaio . Well, i think the most important thing is the republican establishment supports him. The nrcc which is responsible for electing members of the house is supporting him. Here is the trick, though, the candidate in massachusetts lost. So the republican establishment is looking to broaden the type of candidates they have, but can Republican Voters actually support them . And i think that will be tough. Michael this may also be part of what you alluded to earlier as the work in progress stage. Lets go to new jersey. Cory booker mon the democratic primary for the states primary. But voter turn out was extremely low. I mean it was just shocking. But is this exactly what Chris Christie wanted to have happen . Its hard to say, but you are right, with 9 its hard to say if that is going to translate later on for him. Its a special election, obviously, and well see what happens. For Chris Christie he is focused on getting himself reelected, i think he feels pretty confident in that election, and in 2016, you know he has his eye on it. Michael yeah, listen, everybody we expected still three years away, and we expect all of these people to say yeah, im running we are a little bit ridiculous. Michael we are. But we like talking about it. Because when people werent talk about 2008 and 2004, we were probably. Chris we have on the air together a lot in the last year and a half. Our audience has always appreciated your take on national politics. Im asking you now to leave us with a little bit of parting wisdom. What is the biggest story that our viewers should be paying attention to Going Forward . I would have to say it is the story you reported on in the top of the show, what is going on in the International Community in egypt. That is very important theres a lot of dangerous stuff going on in the world, and it is going to have an impact on the Global Community here, and i would encourage people to pay more attention to foreign stories, and myself included. Michael yeah, thats a really important thing. And listen, we are having right now what i would consider a civil political war in this country, dieding both geo graphically and ideologically in the country, more so than i have ever seen, so what are we to draw from that . Its greatable we can have these disagreements without being disagreeable. We live in a peaceful country. And we bicker and yell, and fight, and scratch, but we have elections every two to four years, and they are peaceful. And thats something im very grateful for. And its a lot of fun to cover that and have for the most part, the freedom to do that. Michael all right. Well even though he doesnt like pandas for some reason, you should follow chris moody on twitter, and you should read what he writes every someday. Chris, thanks for everything you have meant to the show. Coming up we will be joined by two horsemen of the apocalypse, john fugelsang, and cenk uygur. And then she is the president ial candidate who must not be named. Back in 2008, Mitch Stewart was one of the wizards behind the upset victory. Stay with us. If you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Do you think there is any chance well ever hear the president even say the word carbon tax . With an opened mind. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform . And a distinctly satirical point of view. But you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. laughter cutting throught the clutter of todays top stories. This is the savior of the Republican Party . I mean really . With a unique perspective. Teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. laughter . And lots of fancy buzz words. Family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hardworking moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. If Wayne Lapierre can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense. Hey, so can i. Once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. Watch the show. Only on current tv. Michael well it in indeed a bittersweet time inside the war room. Tomorrows show will be your last. Current tv which launched in 2012 is going off the air next month, and will be replaced by al jazeera america. In our time here in the war room we have focused on important political stories from our march goes on series, to controlling the playing of gun violence in this country and the Immigration Reform debate that continues to rage on. Joining me now inside the war room are two of my current colleagues and friends, john fugelsang, the host of viewpoint, who has the second best hair on this network, and my very close friend, the young turks studio in los angeles cenk uygur. Thank you both for joining us in the war room one last time. Thank you, michael. Thank you. Michael john, im sgoorth with you what do you think the impact that current tv has had on the progressive discussion if any at all . Well, thats a good question. I have to say it was positive, if not necessarily profound. While this whole experience has proven that liberals are very good at capitalism, im very happy for mr. Gore, i dont think network had the chance to make the proper impact it could have had had it had proper promotions behind it. I think if we would have had a bit of press promotion, we would have been able to build a following. But i think it was a success in terms of quality programming. People were looking for an independent alternative to msnbc, and i think you two gentlemen, along with Stephanie Miller and eliot, and bill press have put on some excellent tv, and thats im very proud to have been a part of it creatively. Michael yeah, i think were very proud of what we have done, and also so damn frustrated. Cenk i remember you and i were talk about health care legislation, and i was really for a single payer, i was as liberal as i could be on that issue, and i wanted to almost vote against any kind of obamacare because it didnt go far enough, and you said i think you got to get what you can get. What is the next shot at progressive television in the country . I think there has been many forms of progressive commentary on air. Theres the original msnbc, and now the more Democratic Party msnbc, and current began something which is important, which as john alluded to, nonprogressive partisan talk. A little bit more antiestablishment. It planted a seed, and i think that seed can grow into something really powerful. I mean, look, i think we as progressives absolutely own the future. What is the future of media . Online, right . Everybody knows that. Every single day tv declines in terms of ratings, and every single day, online increases. And progressives demolish, destroy conservatives. If you took the top 100 conservative video shows on line, they wouldnt begin to equal the young turks. So the future is totally ours. Michael john thats interesting what cenk brings up in terms of how we sell the message. Maybe we had the good fortune of covering an election year, but the misfortune is we did take a side here, and took away a little bit of the independence that cenk is talking about. Where does that live now . I kind of have to disagree. I think we took a side, but i think we wont devoted to defending one party. I felt like i could hear i like to say that viewpoint is fair and biased, and i heard that time and time again on current, where we would have programming that was not afraid to critique the Obama Administration, even when they wanted obama to be president way more than mitt romney. So i do think that there was that kind of independence. And, you know, i think there is a great audience for programming like this. Before it ended, Stephanie Miller and i did the sexy liberal comedy tour, and we sold out the country with no corporate backing of any kind. There is an audience for quality, intelligent, and entertaining programming. And that about it going to go away. Michael see i needed you guys. And john when you talk about being in the tank opposed to mitt romney is very different than being in president obamas tank. What about the direction of progressive politics in the country, cenk . You talk about the idea of progressive on every single issue is the one, 99 of the time, it seems listening to you, is the one that wins in the polling. What about the politics behind it . Couple of things here. First of all im amused by the idea that anybody would think i like the Democratic Party. Michael i didnt say that. No, no, you didnt say that. Michael i would never had said that. Okay. Now on to your question, look, as far as where the country stands. I think its a goofy way to measure which show is doing better, online the young turks is so much larger, so the country must be progressive. No, i dont think thats the case. We appeal to a much narrower portion of the audience than the 51 that you need to win a election. But we can look at polls, Social Security, medicare, the way we conducted the wars, you name any issue and the country is solidly progressive. And when you look at the future even among whites, among the younger voters, they have a 20point gap in favor of democrats. So the Republican Party is in massive trouble in a lot of different ways, but the one thing that is propping them up is money. And our broken corrupt political system. Today jesse jackson, jr. Went away to jail. He is the dumbest politician i know. There is legal bribe. Why did you make them illegal . It was Michael Jacksons hat, cenk. He couldnt resist. Yeah, we got a cape. But if you take that card away of the money that they have pored into politics through the Citizens United rulings, et cetera, et cetera, i think the country goes back to what it was in the 1970s, which was so deeply progressive that Richard Nixon had to do everything that ralph nader told him to do. Michael its true, i listen to cenk say this for a long time, and he is right about it. What gets done in washington now without taking the money away. Listen, if the people lead the leaders will follow. The only way it is going to happen is if you can convince your friends, family, everyone, that money is rotting the system. And when we can get people to get serious about getting money out of politics, make our republican brothers and sisters understand that Citizens United hurt them, and the repeal of glass spiegel was a racket perpetrated on us by both the republicans in congress, and the democrats in the white house, but the politicians are not going to reform this. It is going to have to come from the people. Michael and when you talk about Lawrence Summers now being considered to run the fed yeah, i have a lot of jokes about larry summers, but they are all very derivative. [ laughter ] 12 peeps got that joke. Michael yeah, and two of them are on camera. John fugelsang getting to know you and having our audience get to watch you, you put on some really good shows, you are one of the best tweeters out there, and i hope we see you again soon. Where are you going to be going from here . Well, michael i want to say first, it has been a real pleasure watching yours. This is going to be a big lovein. I filled in for your show, and got to know the excellent staff you have there. I admire what you have done with the show. It has been consistently smart and entertaining, and you are a great broadcaster. Im going to be on msnbc this weekend, and then im going to be working on a book all fall. Im going to be hosting and narrating a film for pbs, and studying how the American Dream has evolved over the past 180 years. A will be coming out next fall on pbs, and im going to be writing, and popping up in comedy clubs in your town. Michael im looking forward to the tour. And cenk to you i have to Say Something personal, which is i wouldnt be sitting in this chair, if it were not your faith in me. And i want to tell you how appreciative i am of that. And anybody can find you if you google an opinion online, thats whos face pops up. And cenk ill probably see you friday. Michael coming up, were getting ready for hilary in the war room, Mitch Stewart will tell us how he plans to get her those 270 electoral votes. But next, another favorite steps back in the war room for one last lap around the days political happenings, Christine Pelosi joining us. Stick around. Thats all next. c] did anyone tell the pilgrims they should selfdeport . No, they said make us a turkey and make it fast. laughter . She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so there is wiggle room in the Muslim Brotherhood<\/a> count saying as many as 600 dead. The clash began last night when troops swarmed two pro morsi encampments and opened fire. The white house condemned the violence and urged egypt to find peace instead of imposing a state of emergency. Josh earnest had this to say this morning. We believe that the state of emergency should end as soon as possible. Violence is simply not a solution in egypt or anywhere else. Violence will not create a road map for egypts future. Violence only impedes the transition to an incollusive civilian government. The world is closely watching egypt and is very concerned. Michael that of course was john kerry speaking. The interim president has resigned saying. The situation in egypt is changing by the minute, and more unrest seems inevitable. For perspective we turn as we always do to los angeles, and our very own egypt expert, noreen moustafa. Welcome back into the war room, noreen. Thanks, michael. Michael you have family in egypt. How are they . What are they saying now . My own family is representative of society in egypt right now, and that is pretty divided. I do have a lot of people in my family who do support this crackdown who saw the Muslim Brotherhood<\/a> as sort of an impediment to the road map the army put forward to democracy. Its vitreal on both sides. Michael the government has announced a state of emergency. What exactly does that mean . What that means to me is were basically back at january 24th, 2011. One of the hallmarks of the regime was he kept this emergency law going for all 30 years. And this was one of the major asks from the revolution, so to see that back in place and curfews back in place, you cant help but think we have taken a huge step backwards. Michael as we mentioned Vice President<\/a> , Mohamed Elbaradei<\/a> has resigned. What is the significance of that . Whatever coalition we saw form after the june 30th, protest when morsi was deposed is quickly faulting apart. Elbaradei had been signalling all week that he didnt support such a crackdown. It appears the general made the decision without elbaradei and went forward with the plan. So not having any sort of liberal secular in that government is very troubling now. Michael a lot of liberal and secular egyptians supported the military when it ousted morsi. Now what happens . I think you cannot look at this and feel like this is the military overstepping and a gross injustice that was done. Just very tragic. Michael yeah, totally. How much influence does the United States<\/a> really have right now . And is there anything the Obama Administration<\/a> can do . There is always this threat that well take away our 1. 3 billion of aid that we provide from egypt, but what im hearing from there is they dont really care right now. That 1. 3 billion seems pretty insignificant to what they are getting from other middle eastern countries. But no matter who wins, well support them. Michael and do you see a settlement . I think were a lot further from a political solution today than we have been in a long time. I hope we can move forward from here, but very devastating, and to not expect retribution, i think would be foolish. Michael nobody on television explains this better than you, noreen moustafa. Thanks so much for being on the show as always. So happy to be in the war room. Michael love having you. We move now to the thankfully nonviolent domestic front, with the gop road show is roll going boston, today prince riebus oh, i got it wrong again i mean Reince Priebus<\/a> is railing against fairness. The theme is make things happen. Which in gop speak means dont let anything happen, ever. More than 160 members of the rnc will be in attendance. Preibus will ask rnc members to vote on a measure withdrawing from the primary debate if they air a documentary about Hillary Clinton<\/a>. And then theres a presentation highlighting new technology. Were guessing newt will explain you can now take pictures on your cell phone. Why boston . Well, one of the most liberal citys in the world . Does reince love the sox, newt want chaw da . Who knows. Joining us now is political reporter and war room favorite chris moody, welcome back into the war room. Thanks for having me. Michael i didnt mean to get so partisan with the most toeing of the line of all of the reporters, but i had to have fun with the folks in boston. We have spent a lot of time chronicling republican insanity, and is this just going to continue . Well this is an ongoing effort like you said. Its a check in on the status. Back after the election in january of 2013, they released a report on how they can try to launch their comeback for 2014 and then the big time 2016. They are going into communities where republicans have not had a presence, they are spending millions of dollars trying to be at minority events in inner industries where they have not been before. And now they are going to discuss how is that going . Its a work in progress for them and i think they are well aware of how they are doing. Michael yeah, and its important to realize that they think of it that way too. Recently san diego congressional candidate karl demaio, he is gay, supports reproduction rights, and he is a republican. Is there any chance well see more candidates like demaio . Well, i think the most important thing is the republican establishment supports him. The nrcc which is responsible for electing members of the house is supporting him. Here is the trick, though, the candidate in massachusetts lost. So the republican establishment is looking to broaden the type of candidates they have, but can Republican Voters<\/a> actually support them . And i think that will be tough. Michael this may also be part of what you alluded to earlier as the work in progress stage. Lets go to new jersey. Cory booker mon the democratic primary for the states primary. But voter turn out was extremely low. I mean it was just shocking. But is this exactly what Chris Christie<\/a> wanted to have happen . Its hard to say, but you are right, with 9 its hard to say if that is going to translate later on for him. Its a special election, obviously, and well see what happens. For Chris Christie<\/a> he is focused on getting himself reelected, i think he feels pretty confident in that election, and in 2016, you know he has his eye on it. Michael yeah, listen, everybody we expected still three years away, and we expect all of these people to say yeah, im running we are a little bit ridiculous. Michael we are. But we like talking about it. Because when people werent talk about 2008 and 2004, we were probably. Chris we have on the air together a lot in the last year and a half. Our audience has always appreciated your take on national politics. Im asking you now to leave us with a little bit of parting wisdom. What is the biggest story that our viewers should be paying attention to Going Forward<\/a> . I would have to say it is the story you reported on in the top of the show, what is going on in the International Community<\/a> in egypt. That is very important theres a lot of dangerous stuff going on in the world, and it is going to have an impact on the Global Community<\/a> here, and i would encourage people to pay more attention to foreign stories, and myself included. Michael yeah, thats a really important thing. And listen, we are having right now what i would consider a civil political war in this country, dieding both geo graphically and ideologically in the country, more so than i have ever seen, so what are we to draw from that . Its greatable we can have these disagreements without being disagreeable. We live in a peaceful country. And we bicker and yell, and fight, and scratch, but we have elections every two to four years, and they are peaceful. And thats something im very grateful for. And its a lot of fun to cover that and have for the most part, the freedom to do that. Michael all right. Well even though he doesnt like pandas for some reason, you should follow chris moody on twitter, and you should read what he writes every someday. Chris, thanks for everything you have meant to the show. Coming up we will be joined by two horsemen of the apocalypse, john fugelsang, and cenk uygur. And then she is the president ial candidate who must not be named. Back in 2008, Mitch Stewart<\/a> was one of the wizards behind the upset victory. Stay with us. If you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Do you think there is any chance well ever hear the president even say the word carbon tax . With an opened mind. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform<\/a> . And a distinctly satirical point of view. But you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. laughter cutting throught the clutter of todays top stories. This is the savior of the Republican Party<\/a> . I mean really . With a unique perspective. Teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. laughter . And lots of fancy buzz words. Family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hardworking moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. If Wayne Lapierre<\/a> can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense. Hey, so can i. Once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. Watch the show. Only on current tv. Michael well it in indeed a bittersweet time inside the war room. Tomorrows show will be your last. Current tv which launched in 2012 is going off the air next month, and will be replaced by al jazeera america. In our time here in the war room we have focused on important political stories from our march goes on series, to controlling the playing of gun violence in this country and the Immigration Reform<\/a> debate that continues to rage on. Joining me now inside the war room are two of my current colleagues and friends, john fugelsang, the host of viewpoint, who has the second best hair on this network, and my very close friend, the young turks studio in los angeles cenk uygur. Thank you both for joining us in the war room one last time. Thank you, michael. Thank you. Michael john, im sgoorth with you what do you think the impact that current tv has had on the progressive discussion if any at all . Well, thats a good question. I have to say it was positive, if not necessarily profound. While this whole experience has proven that liberals are very good at capitalism, im very happy for mr. Gore, i dont think network had the chance to make the proper impact it could have had had it had proper promotions behind it. I think if we would have had a bit of press promotion, we would have been able to build a following. But i think it was a success in terms of quality programming. People were looking for an independent alternative to msnbc, and i think you two gentlemen, along with Stephanie Miller<\/a> and eliot, and bill press have put on some excellent tv, and thats im very proud to have been a part of it creatively. Michael yeah, i think were very proud of what we have done, and also so damn frustrated. Cenk i remember you and i were talk about health care legislation, and i was really for a single payer, i was as liberal as i could be on that issue, and i wanted to almost vote against any kind of obamacare because it didnt go far enough, and you said i think you got to get what you can get. What is the next shot at progressive television in the country . I think there has been many forms of progressive commentary on air. Theres the original msnbc, and now the more Democratic Party<\/a> msnbc, and current began something which is important, which as john alluded to, nonprogressive partisan talk. A little bit more antiestablishment. It planted a seed, and i think that seed can grow into something really powerful. I mean, look, i think we as progressives absolutely own the future. What is the future of media . Online, right . Everybody knows that. Every single day tv declines in terms of ratings, and every single day, online increases. And progressives demolish, destroy conservatives. If you took the top 100 conservative video shows on line, they wouldnt begin to equal the young turks. So the future is totally ours. Michael john thats interesting what cenk brings up in terms of how we sell the message. Maybe we had the good fortune of covering an election year, but the misfortune is we did take a side here, and took away a little bit of the independence that cenk is talking about. Where does that live now . I kind of have to disagree. I think we took a side, but i think we wont devoted to defending one party. I felt like i could hear i like to say that viewpoint is fair and biased, and i heard that time and time again on current, where we would have programming that was not afraid to critique the Obama Administration<\/a>, even when they wanted obama to be president way more than mitt romney. So i do think that there was that kind of independence. And, you know, i think there is a great audience for programming like this. Before it ended, Stephanie Miller<\/a> and i did the sexy liberal comedy tour, and we sold out the country with no corporate backing of any kind. There is an audience for quality, intelligent, and entertaining programming. And that about it going to go away. Michael see i needed you guys. And john when you talk about being in the tank opposed to mitt romney is very different than being in president obamas tank. What about the direction of progressive politics in the country, cenk . You talk about the idea of progressive on every single issue is the one, 99 of the time, it seems listening to you, is the one that wins in the polling. What about the politics behind it . Couple of things here. First of all im amused by the idea that anybody would think i like the Democratic Party<\/a>. Michael i didnt say that. No, no, you didnt say that. Michael i would never had said that. Okay. Now on to your question, look, as far as where the country stands. I think its a goofy way to measure which show is doing better, online the young turks is so much larger, so the country must be progressive. No, i dont think thats the case. We appeal to a much narrower portion of the audience than the 51 that you need to win a election. But we can look at polls, Social Security<\/a>, medicare, the way we conducted the wars, you name any issue and the country is solidly progressive. And when you look at the future even among whites, among the younger voters, they have a 20point gap in favor of democrats. So the Republican Party<\/a> is in massive trouble in a lot of different ways, but the one thing that is propping them up is money. And our broken corrupt political system. Today jesse jackson, jr. Went away to jail. He is the dumbest politician i know. There is legal bribe. Why did you make them illegal . It was Michael Jacksons<\/a> hat, cenk. He couldnt resist. Yeah, we got a cape. But if you take that card away of the money that they have pored into politics through the Citizens United<\/a> rulings, et cetera, et cetera, i think the country goes back to what it was in the 1970s, which was so deeply progressive that Richard Nixon<\/a> had to do everything that ralph nader told him to do. Michael its true, i listen to cenk say this for a long time, and he is right about it. What gets done in washington now without taking the money away. Listen, if the people lead the leaders will follow. The only way it is going to happen is if you can convince your friends, family, everyone, that money is rotting the system. And when we can get people to get serious about getting money out of politics, make our republican brothers and sisters understand that Citizens United<\/a> hurt them, and the repeal of glass spiegel was a racket perpetrated on us by both the republicans in congress, and the democrats in the white house, but the politicians are not going to reform this. It is going to have to come from the people. Michael and when you talk about Lawrence Summers<\/a> now being considered to run the fed yeah, i have a lot of jokes about larry summers, but they are all very derivative. [ laughter ] 12 peeps got that joke. Michael yeah, and two of them are on camera. John fugelsang getting to know you and having our audience get to watch you, you put on some really good shows, you are one of the best tweeters out there, and i hope we see you again soon. Where are you going to be going from here . Well, michael i want to say first, it has been a real pleasure watching yours. This is going to be a big lovein. I filled in for your show, and got to know the excellent staff you have there. I admire what you have done with the show. It has been consistently smart and entertaining, and you are a great broadcaster. Im going to be on msnbc this weekend, and then im going to be working on a book all fall. Im going to be hosting and narrating a film for pbs, and studying how the American Dream<\/a> has evolved over the past 180 years. A will be coming out next fall on pbs, and im going to be writing, and popping up in comedy clubs in your town. Michael im looking forward to the tour. And cenk to you i have to Say Something<\/a> personal, which is i wouldnt be sitting in this chair, if it were not your faith in me. And i want to tell you how appreciative i am of that. And anybody can find you if you google an opinion online, thats whos face pops up. And cenk ill probably see you friday. Michael coming up, were getting ready for hilary in the war room, Mitch Stewart<\/a> will tell us how he plans to get her those 270 electoral votes. But next, another favorite steps back in the war room for one last lap around the days political happenings, Christine Pelosi<\/a> joining us. Stick around. Thats all next. c] did anyone tell the pilgrims they should selfdeport . No, they said make us a turkey and make it fast. laughter . She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so there is wiggle room in the Ten Commandments<\/a> is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. Ya, i consider you jewtalian. Okay, whatever you want. Who plays kafka . Who saw kafka . Who ever saw kafka . laughter . Asking the tough questions. Chris brown, i mean you wouldnt let one of your daughters go out with him. Absolutely not. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me . Absolutely singing i take lipitor, thats it. Are you improving your lips . laughter . When shes talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. It looks like Anthony Wiener<\/a> is throwing his hat in the ring. His what in the ring . His hat. Always outspoken, joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they only on current tv. Michael welcome back to the war room. Over the course of this show, we have had the privilege of working with some of the most influential thought leaders in the country. Christine pelosi has been with the war room long before i took the reins, and as we wrap up the final week of the war room, it is again to welcome the chair of the california Democratic Party<\/a> womens caucus Christine Pelosi<\/a>, back inside the war room one final time. Christine, im never going to have to say California California<\/a> Democratic Party<\/a>, womens caucus. Its a long thing to have to say once a week. But its a very important opportunity for you to sensitize yourself to the needs of women. I could not be more sensitive to the needs of women. Here you are. Thank you. Michael on monday lets talk politics we like that on monday, governor pat mccrory signed one of the nations most draconian voter id laws. What is the future of voter id laws in this country . The future is the future the public decides to make of them. I was blogging today on huffington post, if you want to preserve Social Security<\/a> on today, its 78th birthday, you have to protect Voting Rights<\/a>. Why . Because there is an agenda where they are trying to shrink government to the size where it can be drowned in the bathtub, et cetera, in their own words, and theres not public support for that. So their way around that is to cut out the voices of the people who oppose that. And if we let that stand, shame on us. The American People<\/a> understand that they disenfranchise not just colored people, or poor people, but people across the country. Michael yeah, and that brings to mind the fact that at the end of this month, the 50th anniversary of the march on washington is upon us. I cant imagine that very many people that were at that march, 50 years later, we would be talk about the Voting Rights<\/a> act. Tell me where you think we are today and the kind of work that still needs to be done. A lot of people thought mistakenly that once we elected barack obama president , we would be in a postracial society. But what these voter id laws are, are basically them taking the birther movement, and turning that on to his voters, so i think we do have to understand that we have a long way to go to unite our country, when it comes to being the beloved country. Michael and john lewis is still fighting that fight. The Republican Party<\/a> is planning an event as well. What do you think that is all about . They want to expand their outreach to minorities. Is this a good start . Its a good start as long as they join in the march. Extend outreach starting with the right to vote, starting with the polling place. Theres an opportunity to revive the Voting Rights<\/a> act that was gutted by the supreme court. So now congress can rewrite section 4 and 5 of the voters right act this fall. Michael thats true, they could do all of the window dressing, but when it comes to actually doing something, they have disappointed. Lets talk about them a little bit. Where do you see the fight for the Republican Party<\/a> ending up . Well, what the fight in the Republican Party<\/a> needs is adult supervision, a lot of the progressives, including your two former guests on this show, were annoyed be nancy pelosi when she took impeachment of george bush off of the table, because she said it is more important that we enact universal health care. John boehner never made the same pledge. They road the tail of the tiger, and hoped it wouldnt come back to bite them. But now because they never sat down a marker, now they are stuck, so the question is can the republicans still govern without the tea party . Because they certainly cant govern with the tea party. Michael and they have proven that. Speaking of republicans, there are 135 climate deniers in the u. S. Congress. Today organizing for america has decided to bestow awards on those climate deniers. They have given them unicorns, because it says, quote, one good fantasy deserves another. They are presenting unicorns to the climate deniers there. I think this is great. Do you think will help . Its another reminder, last year, the republicans gave us the even a sketch, which i gave bella, for her birthday, so i suppose im going to have to get her a unicorn this year. Michael do we have the chance to take back the house . I think we do. Immigration is really running the fight for the house. Because in immigrant communities and others, those districts are swing districts that we can win back. You are starting to see some of the republicans make noises about Immigration Reform<\/a>, but the proof is in the ballot box. Michael do you think well win back the house in 2014 . I think we will as long as progressives tell democrats to get out there to vote. Michael when does Christine Pelosi<\/a> runs for office . When bella pelosi decides it is okay. Michael okay. This is a democracy and i may choose to present my credentials in front of my community, but right now, im running after bella. Michael i understand. I took this job they said to me the first time you were coming on, Christine Pelosi<\/a> is coming in, shes Nancy Pelosis<\/a> daughter, i would say that nancy pelosi is Christine Pelosi<\/a>s mom. What a guy. Michael it has been great to have you on this show. I appreciate all of the smart incite that you have given us here at this table. Thank you for the opportunity, michael. Michael thanks a lot, christine. Coming up i will welcome Mitch Stewart<\/a> in. He is on the team to get hilary in the white house. Well meet the virtual star in person next. Compelling true stories. Jack, how old are you . Nine. This is what 27 tons of marijuana looks like. vo with Award Winning<\/a> documentaries that take you inside the headlines, way inside. vo from the underworld, to the world of privilege. Everyone in Michael Jacksons<\/a> life was out to use him. vo no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. Michael were still three years away from the next president ial election, but campai Campaign Season<\/a> as already lifted off. A mixed bag of republicans hit up iowa over the weekend, including rick sanatorium, and ted cruz. And Hillary Clinton<\/a> wasnt there in person, but missouri senator Claire Mccaskill<\/a> was. She supported the obamas in 08 and made some pretty cold comments about the clintons back then, and continues to make comments like this. We have to have millions of people engaged and ready for what will be a pivotal race in americas history, and that is about getting everyone excited now, and what i hope will be that moment in 2017, when we all get to say madam president to Hilary Rodham<\/a> clinton. Michael joe biden shows signs he might run. Hell be in iowa to speak. And Public Policy<\/a> polling put out a survey of what hawk eye dems are thinking at least for now. In july they mound clinton leads biden 7112. Its hard to say what might happen in the 2016 campaign, except that its starting way too early, after all president obama was only reelected nine months ago. At this time in the cycle, no one considered the new senator with a funny came to even with a candidate. So who knows what might happen. Joining us from washington is Mitch Stewart<\/a>, Founding Partner<\/a> at 270 strategies and the former battleground states director of the obama for america campaign, and the man who has sent me more emails than anyone alive. Thanks for being on our show, mitch. My pleasure, michael, thanks for having me. Michael one of them could have said i had like 140 million waiting for me in nigeria, but none of them saad that. How do you campaign for someone who is not even a candidate yet . Well, i think you said a couple of things in the prelude to this that are critical, the first is we are three years out. The second is secretary clinton has not yet announced her candidacy. But one of the things we learned to be true in 2008 and 2012, is its never too early to build a grass roots movement. Specifically if you want a modern 21st century campaign, you have to have the grassroots infrastructure there to support that candidacy. And what were seeing right now with ready for hilary is incredible enthusiasm across the country. So i think were taking the prudent steps right now to capture that energy and enthusiasm, and start to organize it. Michael do you think this is a blueprint for the way campaigning is going to happen forever . I dont remember it starting this early. I remember once in a while after an election, thinking okay, who could run, and then sort of leaving it there. Now everyone is talking about it every day. Is this how it will be from now on, do you think . Ill say a couple of things. The first is, i hope so. Theres nothing more powerful than having ordinary citizens make change. Thats something we should cultivate and nourish as progressives, and as a country. And a potential candidacy from secretary clinton is unique. And the enthusiasm were seeing for that candidacy is not something that a typical candidate would experience. So while ill say i hope this is the blue print for the future, specifically what were seeing with secretary clinton, i think is unique to her. Michael mitch you spent so much Energy Building<\/a> a Successful Campaign<\/a> against Hillary Clinton<\/a>, now you are campaigning for her. Explain how that feels to you, and how people perceive that . Well, you know, i certainly understand why thats an interesting story line, but frankly, the the old rivalalry, you know, is is gone. And we have had folks in fact one of the partners at 270 strategies worked for then senator clinton in nevada and indiana during the primary. And the service that she has to this country as secretary of state was something that i think all of us from the campaigned a mired. And if she were to announce a candidacy for the presidency, i think there would be many obama alumni from 2008 and 2012 lining up to support that potential candidacy. Michael yeah, i would imagine. And thats what politics is too, looking for the candidate who brings the most to the table, and certainly Hillary Clinton<\/a> is among those people. Everything peopled to go right with obama for america. But what pitfalls did you face with your time in obama for america that you would want to sort of avoid if you were to work with Hillary Clinton<\/a>. Well, again, she hasnt announced her candidacy michael i said if. There were a lot of ifs in there. But if she were to run, i think the the idea that you have to wait to Start Building<\/a> an organization is is something that would be a a squandered opportunity. And so i would encourage, you know, her or frankly any other candidate, but specifically with ready for hilary to take advantage of this time we have right now. One of the lessons we learned in 2009 and 10 was built around supporting the president s agenda, you know, the roots that were laid during those two years, paid huge, huge dividends. And what you dont see with grassroots organizations is this immediate return on investment. You have to plant those seeds very, very early so you do get the investment. We started in 2012, again, you know, useings some of the remnants. 42 of the vote that hand happened in the final two weeks. So i think the fact that we have this opportunity that a potential candidacy from secretary clinton would allow us to Start Building<\/a> that organization now is a huge, huge advantage. Its unique to her, but also its a huge problem for republicans if she does decide to get in. Michael thats the most important part of that. Mitch stewart from 270 strategies, keep emailing, thanks for joining us in the war room, really do appreciate it. Coming up next, al qaeda is on twitter. Who know. Brett ehrlich will critique that social strategy. If you believe in states rights but still support the drug war you must be high. Viewpoint digs deep into the issues of the day. Do you think there is any chance well ever hear the president even say the word carbon tax . With an opened mind. Has the time finally come for real Immigration Reform<\/a> . And a distinctly satirical point of view. But you mentioned great leadership so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. laughter cutting throught the clutter of todays top stories. This is the savior of the Republican Party<\/a> . I mean really . With a unique perspective. Teddy rosevelt was a weak asmatic kid who never played sports until he was a grown up. laughter . And lots of fancy buzz words. Family values, speding, liberty, economic freedom, hardworking moms, crushing debt, cute little puppies. If Wayne Lapierre<\/a> can make up stuff that sounds logical while making no sense. Hey, so can i. Once again friends, this is live tv and sometimes these things happen. Watch the show. Only on current tv. Michael quickly, a nice bit of war news war room news to report to you. Yesterday leanne was on our show. She was the mother of a son who was hazed to death, and has been trying to advocate against antihazing laws. And then wilson was lobbied against it. Wilson finally reached out to leanne today, we would like to think that it was because of the war room appearance by leanne on this show yesterday. But either way were really happy that seems to be moving the way it is going. And now we move from that to Brett Ehrlich<\/a>. That was a great segue, and thanks for the intro. Usually it is al qaeda who wants to hijack stuff. But al qaeda got hi jacked on twitter. They put out a call for people to give suggestions on how to improve jihadi social media outreach, so this one man, called them out on it, and said. So needless to say the internet came back with quite a furious vengeance and started giving these amazing suggestions. First of all. Which would be a great way to raise funds. Next. Thats a great way to bring them into the 2010s. But here is the next section. So those were all of the suggestions. Next well go to the iowa state fair. You were talking about it earlier, the iowa state fair. I just wanted to give those images for those who hadnt quite had a chance to see it. It is not just fattening humans, with deepfried meat sticks, it is also fat pigeons, and i can see the utility for juniors fattening up pigeons. And a little shot, this typifies the entire thing. I dont know what these people have won the blue river for, but i know it involves a golden toilet seat. And it says number one in the number two business. And everyone heard about the missouri rodeo clown who impersonated barack obama. That person was exiled from missouri, but according to steve stockman, a representative from texas, he was invited to texas. Who said that liberals want a bronco bust decent, im sure any rodeo performer would have him. Michael thank you, Brett Ehrlich<\/a> who will be joining us up here in San Francisco<\/a> tomorrow for our grand final lee. We look forward it to. Thanks for joining us here in the war room. She gets the comedians laughing. Thats the best thats hilarious. And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so there is wiggle room in the Ten Commandments<\/a> is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. Ya, i consider you jewtalian. Okay, whatever you want. Who plays kafka . Who saw kafka . Who ever saw kafka . laughter . Asking the tough questions. Chris brown, i mean you wouldnt let one of your daughters go out with him. Absolutely not. You would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me . Absolutely singing i take lipitor, thats it. Are you improving your lips . laughter . When shes talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. It looks like Anthony Wiener<\/a> is throwing his hat in the ring. His what in the ring . His hat. Always outspoken, joy behar. And the best part is that current will let me say anything. What the hell were they thinking . [ theme music ] cenk welcome to the young turks. Our second to the last show on current. Oh, tugs at your heartstrings. Dont you worry about a thing. Where can you always find us . You know it by now, the young turks. Com. So weve got an exciting show for you guys. Im going to get angry at different portions of the show. Thats always fun, but were going to start with a very serious topic, and its egypt. In egypt we have an absolute mess, 149 people killed, and its the military who has moved","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia600707.us.archive.org\/30\/items\/CURRENT_20130814_220000_The_War_Room\/CURRENT_20130814_220000_The_War_Room.thumbs\/CURRENT_20130814_220000_The_War_Room_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240619T12:35:10+00:00"}