I think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. They can question whether im right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. Cenk welcome to the the young turks. Guess what kind of show we have for you guys, an awesome show. First of all theyre putting highpowered rifles in schools in california now. Bad idea. The place in connecticut called newtown, there is a shooting up north in northern california. There was a shooting in texas. Do we wait until kids and Staff Members are killed before we take proactive action . Cenk its not proactive action. Ill talk to a person fighting against that in just a minute. And then, the republicans have a brilliant new idea. Why dont we do some tricky moves, redistrict, and then romney would have won. Or their new candidate in 2016. The story that has me fired up. The c. I. A. Officer that revealed that there was torture 30 months in prison. The only person going to prison about the torture regime is the guy who blew the wrestle on thewho blew the whistle on torture. Not the guys who performed the torture in what happened, president obama. Im just getting started. Its go time. [ theme music ] cenk all right well, in fontana, california, they have a really good idea. How about if we put high powered rifles right next to kids. Their purchase of high caliber assault weapons by the Fontana School district has parents up in arms. I think its a bad idea about the Mental Health aspect. Rifles like these from the cool. Com website. Theyre 1,000 teach. School police chief said the purchase was a must to protect all 45 campuses. There is a place up in connecticut called newtown. There was a shooting up in northern california, there was a shooting in texas. Do we wait until kids are killed before we take proactive action . Cenk how about give all the kids highpowered weaponry right from the beginning. Thats a terrible idea. Theyre putting theirtheir colt 6940 guns. Enthusiasts can tell me. Designed for Long Distance accuracy stopping power against body armor designed for u. S. Special operations. Now theyre next to your kids. And now the Fontana Police are armed to the teeth. They have 14 Police Officers, 40 hours of training, stored in Police Armory overnight and kept at a safe in assigned schools. There is one person fighting back against this. Laticiaf shes a school board member. Guess what is happening, she is he right here on the young turks. Great to have you leticia. There are a couple of things i dont like. The way the purchase was made, we were not informed of the board. I sit on the board of education. We were not informed that we would be having these weapons purchased and then they would be storedthere are conflicting reports, we dont know. If theyre going to be stored on the school sites, which is the information that i got from the superintendent, or theyre transported back and forth from the Police Department office to the different schools. We still dont know. My thing is they should not be at the schools, number one. Number two, we should have had an opportunity to vet this issue with the board of education as well as the community. They should have had some input as to whether we wanting to this route. Cenk i want to talk about both of those issues. First in terms of whether its going to work. There are a couple of argument they will be deterred because we have assault rifles, and then two, theyre disturbed and they kill themselves. Theyre disturbed any way. Now when i was in school. You have to understand that i was a massive dork and i once broke into the school. I would have gotten 20 years for that now but back then they let you fight. I broke into the school because i forgot mycal my calculous home work. And i needed my text book. Kids getting ahold of the rifles is that one of your concerns. In the transportation of them, even a Police Officer could be overcome, and whether or not they would have access if they were innovative. Break a lock and break into a safe. There are a lot of questions that need to be answered before we take that kind of a step. Unfortunately, that did not happen. We did not have the opportunity the community didnt have the opportunity to ask these questions and get these answers. Cenk so let me go to that issue. The chief of police said thats not true. He said, quote not once throughout this course of this has garcia, you has reached out to find out why this is needed. Who is telling the truth. I will tell you i have not reached out to him. The found out about this after the fact. And at this point there were two piano in the community who reached out to me and asked why you approved of this. I didnt approve of this, and i didnt know they were on campus. The reason i havent is i donteveryone should get the information at the same time. We should have a conversation in public in the light of day with parents invited to the conversation so everyone can get the same information at the same time. That hashopefully going to happen. Cenk can you overturn it . Would there be a vote . How would that work. There is nothing to overturn. We did not approve of this. This decision was made by interim chief of police, chief green, and the superintendent. He were informed of the purchase of rifles in december. But we were never informed they were going to be located on campuses. Cenk so now theyre going after you. There is a newspaper article out about who you were married to, and they say he was a gang member etc. How do you respond to all that, and why do you think theyre doing it. Because there is a vendetta against methere is a Community Leader who has a vendetta against me personally, and every time there is an issue that i have questions about and i am have questions. She turns it into a personal attack. My personal life is no one else elses business. Im concerned about the access these kids have to these guns. Im concerned about the direction were going as a community and as a society. And i want to deal with this peaceful. Cenk i thought it was an interesting attack. They mentioned who you were married to, he was in prison and stuff. What was their point you want people attacking schools . I didnt understand the point of the attack. Thats why i was a little dubious of it. And it feels a little dirty because they should be fighting you on the grounds of substance of this issue because it isnt about you. Its about the kids in the school. It is. It is about the kids and what were doing as a community. We should all be coming together to find solutions that dont include as our chief of police said neutralizing and killing. We have 11yearold children who slow up to school with plastic pellet guns that look very real. What are we going to do, shoot them . We are to neutralize them and kill them according to the chief of police. Cenk he showed us an old rifle, earlier before the show he was showing me a picture of these new kind of toy guns that look exactly like an ar15. They dont have a red tip. They dont have an orange tip. They look like an ar15. But its a water gun and a kid could bring it who cant wait how far he can shoot it, that scares the hell out of me. And its my responsibility to ask question and say there are could be liabilities. Cenk what do they call fontana, funtucky. I dont refer to it that way. Its beautiful. Cenk youre a representative, but for people who dont knowcal, its a little bit more rural. Its not in the middle of los angeles. Which way do you think its going to go . I think were going to have a conversation, and we will decide whether or not it needs to bewe need to have a policy of how were going the implement the use of these weapons and where theyre going to be stored, or if were going to continue to keep them. Well have to have that conversation and that will happen on february 6th. Cenk well look forward to that. We have a story of a cop who leaves his gun in the bathroom. His fifth grader is there. Man, as a parent, that scares the hell out of me. I dont want guns anywhere near the schools. On the substance im with you. Thank you for joining us. Thank you for having me. Cenk no problem. The republicans have a new dirty trick. When will they run out of dirty tricks . The answer may be never. What it is and how we can fight back. Well be right back. We will carry the state of ohio, he wins reelection. Event. It doesnt anymore real than this. 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You know how we do elections in this country. We do state by state and then count all the votes in florida although in florida you dont necessarily count all of them, but youre supposed to count all of them. Whoever winds the votes up with the most votes they have the electoral vote from that state. Now what if we did not count the popular vote would that make a difference . It would maybe a gigantic decision. States considering this is virginia, michigan, ohio and pennsylvania. President obama in the last election won 51 of the popular vote, hence carried the state as it should be. If the republicans had gotten that law passed before the location he wouldnt have only gotten 4 out of the 13 electoral votes although he had the majority of the votes. Thats called tricky and perhaps dirty politics. To give you a sense of it p president obama cleaned romneys clock when it comes to electoral votes. Now maybe we should just go with the popular vote which i this is fairer and president obamas margin of victor of popular column is larger than the popular vote over all. But if you did the republican plan, even though president obama won the popular vote by 5 million and currently won over by 120 votes in the Electoral College. In the republican fan the republican candidate would woo have been. Is this so controversy that even some republicans are saying, well it seems a little embarrassing. Here is pat mullin in virginia who said changing the Electoral College rules in vow is not at all on my list of priorities. People get mad when you try to subvert democracy and have someone who did not win the popular vote become the president , not that that would ever happen in a president ial election or anything. But Reince Priebus thinks, hmm we cant seem to win elections otherwise. All of a sudden its an interesting idea to him. Its something that a lot of states that have been consistently blue that are fully controlled red ought to be looking at. Meaning, even though these states are voting for democrats we have found a way to control them politically and maybe we should look at making that permanent. Again, that would appear to be antidemocratic. Lets talk to a couple of experts. Our own Michael Shure epics politics man. We dont call him epic for no reason. And chris moody. Thank you for being on the program. Thank you for having me. Cenk chris how is this playing out so far. He have some republicans saying this is kind of interesting and then you have some who say this is too far. Are they going to actually do it . This bill was dead on arrival. It wont even make it past the committee. They dont have the votes in the committee to put it on the floor of the Virginia Legislature. They talked about it breathlessly but its not going to see a vote. The governor of virginia, a republican, said hes against it. This bill has been introduced into the Virginia Legislature 13 times in the past ten years. Most of the time by democrats. It goes both ways of people trying to do this idea, but its not going to happen now and its not going to happen any time soon. Cenk i knew there was a reason why we had you on. Thats an excellent point. Really, the Political Parties are trying to find a political advantage, hmm. They do that. Now its not a good idea because its by district, as you pointed out. Theyre all gerrymandered. Some of them look like crazy numbers and shapes that have not been invented yet. They made it so that republicans can win in their districts and democrats with win in there is theirs. This is an idea that is dead on arrival. I think the gerrymandering is insane. I know weve gotten used to it, but we shouldnt get used to it. For the audience, the democrats in the house got 1 million votes than the republicans did even though theyre in the minority because the districts are so gerrymandered and drawn up in funny ways, even though they have less votes the republicans have more house members. There is something fundamentally wrong. You know what im reminded of, senator bunning from kentucky before he retired introduced the idea of not continuing the unemployment sures and the republicans were saying, no, thats crazy. Were not with this guy. Then a couple of years later its Standard Operating Procedure for republicans. One thing to Pay Attention to, it is how they do it in maine and to a degree in nebraska even though nebraska is more complicated than maine. Theyre trying to do itthe proponents say its the most democratic way to do it, but its decidedly undemocratic because they have people drawing the lines. When that happens it can only lead to a very undemocratic and disasterrous result. Cenk it looks like well avoid it for now and theyve been shamed into it. The republicans have retreated from things in the past that seem so controversial only to come back to them later when people had gotten used to the idea oh, maybe not so bad. Look as chris pointed out the democrats have wanted to do it in the past, it doesnt matter which party it is, its a bad idea. In a democracy more votes should equate to winning the election. The u. S. Court of appeals on the dc circuit all three republicans said president obamas recent appointments are not constitutional. Quote, obama did not have the power to make three recent appointments in the National LaborRelations Board because the senate was officially in session at the time. How important is this decision in terms of its effect, not only on that four but other eight governing agencies as well. Well, the game is not over. This is not the end of the line. It will be appealed and likely go on to higher courts. Constitutionally conservatives will argue that theyre restricting the power of the president , the same way if the republican does it, hell be restricted either. This will go on to another court and they could see it very differently. Cenk you know, michael im really worried about the consequences if they do not see it differently. I read the ruling today and its doll and im droll and im not good at reading legal documents but it depends on when they go to recess or when its in adjournment, and its wonky stuff. Cenk please tell me more. Here we go, lets say they get everything they want. The Supreme Court passes all the judicial muster it needs to, they could conceivably go in and undo all the work that has been done. Cenk the court would go back and say everything you did to try to protect us from the banks is now invalid. So the banks on wall street have got to be popping bottles of champagne over this ruling. President obama passed the National Labor board that is pro union. Its the labor board. I want to go back to that, an interesting comment michael made, whether or not it believe it or not an interesting comment. It isnt a recess appoint before they go to lunch on the other hand the republicans say well bring someone in for ten seconds and even though were in recess it will be technically in session. How do you resolve that . Well, they do this all the time where they have a session in the morning but nobody is there. Theyre technically there but the warm bodies are off in different parts of washington or even in their districts. Like i said before. In these case it is you let the president dothe democratic president do Something Like this now during an actually recess, the republican will claim that power a couple of years later. Just like the virginia thing where you give them the power the tables can always be turned, so you have to be very careful. That is the underlying factor of the filibuster that we didnt see reformed yesterday. Its the same thing. Its an insurance policy against when theyre in power. Cenk wrong again. I vote against both of you. Lets be reckless. Chris moody, great information. Michael shure hanging in there im just playing with you. Im in recess. Cenk were going to take a recess right now. President obama youre not allowed to make any appointments during the commercial break. When we come back, stand your ground. A brilliant documentary about vanguardfromvanguard related to who can you kill when can you kill them and how can you get away with it. Im gonna try one shot. If he stops great. If not well go from there. Do you wish youd kill him . Thats hilarious . And the thinkers thinking. Okay, so theres wiggleroom in the Ten Commandments is what youre telling me. Shes joy behar. And current will let me say anything. Only on current tv. Desmond tutu said a quote that is one of my favorite quotes. We are tied together in a web of humanity. I am a person only through you. 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