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DW 911 - The Unheeded Warning September 12, 2022

W ah. In september 11th, 2001 at the United States came under attack the targets, new york city and the capital washington dc. The anti world was shocked. Al qaeda terrorist group in afghanistan, led by Osama Bin Laden claimed responsibility for the attack. Just 2 days earlier on september the 9th, he had his only opponent assassinated, a local hero in the afghan resistance, commander ahmed shah masoud. Yon mess with me to them. I remember my sword saying theres some one whos very dangerous to you. Been that 5 months before the 911 attacks masoud visited france, where he issued a stop warning to the western world. In yellow, he told us he only had one message sick. It was that Osama Bin Laden was preparing a major strike against the United States. Right . Something extremely dangerous. Ah, by all my ball viable here in raleigh that he then and thought my not gonna be in good, much dead. Nothing hardaman get out while its gone by the get on and get on that he thought about the b b just data image study, attitude ah suits, warning, was loud and clear. Why did no one listen . Was it the trade agreements or the om sales to pakistan . That made the usa and other western countries look the other way. Why did they refuse to help my suit . The last line of defense against the taliban and the terrorists . Ah ah ah ah ah. Ah, the after 10 years of war to seize control of canister, the soviets finally conceded and withdrew in 1999. When cobbled communist regime crumbled 3, he is later civil war broke out between rebels from various ethnic groups to shakes, specs, hazardous and passions. Afghanistan spiraled into chaos. This ethnic conflict gave rise to a new movement. The taliban . Ah, impassioned o talib literally means theology student, the taliban ernest lamp fundamentalist group that focus on the study of his land. Their Supreme Leader was milan mohammed omar. A hot co fundamentalist who welcomed terrace into his ranks from saudi arabia and d. M. These were all ca you did. She had. And their leader was a summer, been in september 1996 television ceased cobble, and most of the country imposing a tyrannical islamic regime. And sure we alone. Only one man gate christ east commander ahmed shah. From the pen. She valley faced in the isolated moon mountains, he achieved folk hero status after defeating the red army during the soviet occupation, and then led the Northern Alliance to struggle to resist the taliban. The 2 boys could, i was pretty good in school. Fancy or military Academy Collins and you know, and i spent 3 great years in francis finest school, receiving a military education, but also learning engineering with history and geography of logically and boost object needed to understand the modern world. And dont say today viewed. And thats how i started my career as a military officer in the french army major. But after several disappointments, i resigned in 1999 and became a free civilian again to print out a suit, i introduced myself to my food as a former french officer and told him about the time i was on a diving mission where we planted mines under boats and sabotaged propellers, but to distribute the cities great present job that the taliban didnt have any boats. And then i said something that finally caught his attention saucy to fit. I was a certified French Commando instructor to come on. It was gonna say that it turns out that masoud had a team of commandos there. So in a group that was a mix of both young recruits and veteran by the i somebody bowmois. He gathered them at a training can moore and told me youre a commando instructor. Here you go, do your thing and teach them whatever you want. If i had Carte Blanche as well as just at that time, i think we had about 15000 fighters on the various fronts. What did you feel awful or fussy . We were up against 10 times as many men noisy, but we resisted that. He, boyd, the taliban was well acquitted and had a lot of support from pakistan which wanted them to take over the country. The ball samples. So loss on debbie and by pakistan and supported by okay to fight as the taliban quickly gain control 90 percent of afghan territory in the heart of their oppressive regime. A single french representative remained in office in kabul, the sha shay to fair john if battle is upon the function o sandrarun smile. I had a position with United Nations assistant mission in afghanistan, moved in as that once much organs stole boys. He, his goal was to establish peace in a contract that was being ripped apart at the time. Oh, plant issue, marty book, it jake walton remitted should i continue to do my job in afghanistan may order, but i also became a charade affair. Said i go a cd, i could. I coincided with what came a few months later that matter. When unfortunately, the taliban took control of the country again. He stole you full submission in the previous 20 to 30 years. Many westerners had adopted a false understanding of diplomacy that we offered. It was a kind of western triumphalism of that we only talked to people who shared our values. And thats absurd. Diplomacy existed for exactly the opposite reason for where it was designed as an alternative to war for addressing conflict. Its based on being open to dialogue with any one and everyone to understand their position level about then you are just the level of talks. Theyre symbolism. But once we understood the level of control the taliban had in afghanistan, it, there was no way we can get involved, even though we thought we should be helping masoud. Well, i got that ticket that you did of the moment they arrived and campbell in 99 the same as the taliban publicly had exit. President kennedy bulldog and his brother. It was an introduction to their barbaric interpretation of the koran. Le religious students in virtuously claim they were bringing back people on the. But it came at a huge cost to the 70000000. 00 afghans. The mala professed to be fighting vices with virtue and did so by him. Housing the most obscure and, and in humane islamic system on the planet, is removed. It flung mcgee, my name is more of a column or dean. And im the leader of the revolutionary Islamic Movement in afghanistan. Whoa, whoa. I was the taliban minister for propagation of virtue and prevention of vice. Here on the morrow, my goal was to heavily promote virtue until all vices disappeared naturally. Womach all we never wanted to directly or brutally intervene. Oh no. Thats why we train people from young people. When they went to the mosques in small groups, to raise awareness and worn against all types of temptations. Though this was necessary to get an educated people to follow islamic preceptors was needed to teach them to abandon their vices and renounce everything that islam prohibits or either bigger than against. Showed it to the board canoe version of any ice. The taliban delegation that we invited to islamabad for peace negotiation, as he said in a small guest house next to our office lest house i quoted ends and nobody who in zillow cilla st. It so happened that the un Mission Letter secretary was staying in the same guest house cabinet taylor, them guest house, a key. I either met darby cuz she came in the next morning looking very tired. Verizon because the taliban in the room next door had been watching at horn until 4 in the morning. Thats called and this poor lady was unable to sleep. At my goal is to cut down to the dough meal doctors. I wont go. Pigs that had helped us understand the house at the end of the day. The taliban, where human beings meet of flesh and blood kumasi eustace, and despite their claims of piety, they succumb to their temptations. That to present a bleeding south and only not su, Delaware Group to roost. These the taliban are terrorists, nation. They dont believe in peace sellable use their philosophy is to create eternal war. Must that h yardi view jihad as a religious principle. And his law mc obligation that forces the taliban to fight constantly, brooklyn and gen brooklyn. And otherwise they believe in it, therell be lost to sin as to really believe that jihad guarantees them entry to heaven. Um and that god will grant the mercy, molded the damage the taliban. Of absolutely nothing in common with the Afghan People or afghans society limit any up on this and mcdonald and pakistan backed by western nations and an ally of the us wanted to control afghanistan. It was in pakistans, koranic schools, the taliban were born and trained. Becky stall, it didnt look so chum, measure pakistan, was the taliban major supporter . Event there. Hey, why . Yeah. Pakistan. He thought it would be good to have a regime under their influence and cobble and got blue is the soviet laundry court. But they quickly realized that they didnt really control it at all. So lemme sometimes their puppets went their own way. Old uncle told them in our meetings with the pakistanis houston, we asked them to rein in the taliban them. And they said it wasnt that easy. Ah, me because of course they were on controller lawyers up in albany. Lisa may can level a more that the americans didnt have a counterpart in afghanistan, but they knew they couldnt recognize the taliban regime. York whisper epa. They couldnt be associated with it and dont goose soup levies your american did as though the American Vision of afghanistan was what was seen through pakistani eyes. Not that you like as dan, what had never ruled afghanistan. Lucky, they werent a proper solution to lead the country or policy, but boxley neuropathies hungry. The pakistan is had a tense relationship with commander masoud, that within, they knew that armor char masoud, would never recognize a pakistani public government. The pakistan, he saw that as resistance and as direct opposition to that its truth because my brother would have never accepted a pro Pakistan Government in kabul. And thats the real reason why the United States never helped him, regardless of what they claim. Ah, in june 2000, a European Parliamentary delegation traveled to pen chair to meet commander masood, leading the charge was general felipe morial, who previously served as command review and forces in the former yugoslavia and was a well established peace advocate. The man who instigated to visit was a long time friend of commander muscles, patrol, calais, he sought to raise political when its about the afghan conflict with some will will pay them of them on that mostly do focused on them burly, your own islam, east that polio on play, this is jehovah. Eligible School Effect is i think that pakistan, im convinced that pakistan the goal is a lot more religious in nature than it is geographical for the issue gothic or so. So im in london, he osama bin lad museum whos much talked about in afghanistan. These days was trained by the americans back in the day when they cant deny it. No, said its in that context that he took control of all the big mattresses on pakistans. Koranic schools, im here to discuss it night is so the resistance is so much bigger than that. It has. It encompasses every one who is to g claim to hash tune has ira and any one else who understands the threat, is they all opposing from this moment . Forward all the ethnicities need to unite against this foreign invasion. We are living in the 21st century, and globalization is bringing us closer together. No one can continue to exist in isolation without any outside contact. Its a natural phenomenon with a tolerant and moderate islam. Our people can live in peace, both internally and within the International Community. Um, other than that, okay. What else . You could solid digits. I wore a pocket like a local. I speak the language and since i didnt use french in front of them, they thought i was afghan, which suited me just fine on my attended a number of those meetings. You my food wasnt a fool. He was sharp. You know what he needed above all else was military support. If an intellectual or a politician rallied behind him for their own personal interests and so be it. But regardless of what mattered was, they showed up and brought back a vision that counteracted what many others and harris were the same. Kelly harvey, but in the western world in the us, in europe, unlike lobbyists for arms, dealers were numerous and powerful. And pakistan was a lucrative client in their eyes. Food posed a problem. Mr. Hatch, ive always sued, was very good. He convinced them easily, but well see where that leads and political terms. But i think were slowly moving forward as a country like again, its dan, its so far removed from the current concerns of European Parliamentary representatives. But this is how well get things to evolve. Second, 2 trips like this one while the radius to put together long. But there productive the game is suited. Well, yes, ive had a safe travels home. You know, my heart is here with you. And well be back. And then well be back to bring you to parrot. And to washington, to illustrate, going to lower your movie or return distrust or movies or convince nicole on den for president of the European Parliament, the deal to officially invite my food, which had never been done by anyone anywhere boss. Good luck. She left hearted dempsey, i think frances hands were tied by its relationship and economic connections with pakistan which were valuable back then. I guess your list, of course, the French Intelligence Services were in contact with masoud. The same way they were in contact taliban yankee, a more likely they met with him regularly to ask questions about the situation kitchen to understand how he saw things we will issue and also to ask about al qaeda. Ok, that says, cant i see that was the major points of interest of the French Intelligence Services anymore. But that commerce would be given that masoud had a Significant Network of informants in the country whos he might learn things about bin laden or al qaeda and share that information with the french. Oh, so hes will say, i shared military insights about the show molly plain front with French Intelligence Services with my suits permissional didnt send him off. I was a messenger, mr. To help us. It eventually reports transmitted by the west in secret Services Including the cia gaining traction. But america still insisted on sparing pakistan. Washington decided instead to pressure the un security counseling new york city, the Council Voted to impose sanctions on the cobble regime. Tell about it on the 1st, i wanted to let them use it on us. You know, we actually dont, if you least on 2000 is the uni shown on the focus could be up to the United States was in what i call the hyper power phase with what i mean was that basically any other power almost anywhere in the world you had to take u. S. Policies into account would put it that didnt mean they needed to agree with those policies from the put in fact, which the french governments position with regard to the u. S. At the time was to be a friend and ally. But not necessarily aligned with them. That was unacceptable to the americans. They thought you, if youre an ally, you have to be aligned with them. Otherwise youre useless. You are here about children, mo, mo, at the Moment International sanctions were put into place or reserve. I knew the taliban would become even more radicalized yet it all copies, it goes. So the modem that the moderates were favored, keeping Communications Channels with the western world open. Oh, would essentially no longer have it there way. So no, no, i begun as a result. It would be the radicals who would cease our well, i tried to tell them that to say that i tried repeatedly customer ah, the radicalization of the taliban had brutal, inhumane consequences for women. Their rights regressed even further, and as those rights disappeared, any woman under suspicion could wind up imprisoned, beaten, or even stone to esau. The new lauzon came to the stadium. What a small woman die, a woman whose face will never see them. And if we only know her as armina, ella, thats her in the middle between 2 female guards that, that he bought the taliban leaders sentences her to death for adultery. Ah little sir mina, 7 children watched her execution from the stands. Their uncle was the one who pulled the trigger. But the freedom for women so long its false to say that they had no freedom in god. They were not prisoners of you that be granted. They did not have western freedoms. What they had islamic, koranic freedoms. Oh, and in our country, its true that stoning as prescribed by islam is allowed. The women here are like ghosts, all shrouded in the same covering. The chatter chandry, these clandestine images were found in secret. In afghanistan, one cant even look at women from behind. And here even their underwear is a mans business. Seldom come, no other women selling clothes. Its more, i know no way of islam wouldnt allow it renege because of this interpretation of the koran m womens fashion in afghanistan is entirely decided by men from the cut of the pattern to the actual styles. Black with the sold the taliban of rotten capital, women played a major role in afghan society. They held 80 percent of administrative positions and a 3rd of medical jobs. Masoud encouraged equality and advocated womens return to public life. Mess with the disorder for them approved only from them of duties down masood believed islam, fundamental values that give women autonomy and the right to have an education. And i would say fully belong in the organisation of political life here for school. And i think masood pushed for those ideas, decal, due funnelled in womens groups, came to him, asking him to sign a charter for womens rights, which he did thank you to see if he was fully aligned with everything they brought up. Isnt he agreed with all of it . The coughing, although he still added a line about how these clauses had to respect afghan goals are good to again another indication of the taliban. Radicalization was its intent to destroy all non islamic symbols. After food beating children to play with kites, to listen to music and to take photos of th

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