Drop sharply welcome to conflict zone your Prime Minister viktor orban was just reelected with third consecutive term on the organization for security and cooperation always c e said the opposition did not really have a chance to compete. Yes well its their job to test it they dont have a chance. So they actually got i forgotten exactly how many because best part of two million votes for the school two point seven me that there is competition and besides they have to say things like that thats their job why the criticism is not their job the only see is is a neutral organization and they very well respected the report said quote intimidating and center phobic rhetoric media bias apart compay define and seeing and of the quote hidden the voters ability to make an informed choice this was not a Fair Election was it i think it was a very Fair Election i was for the whole of the campaign i didnt see intimidation and i wasnt just sitting in budapest a regular of objective new out of it. There is no such thing as objectivity i dont believe in fairy tales either. Do you think that the r. C. Is objective no do you think that anybody is objective do you think that even it is not subjective the issue is c. E. Said these elections were not fair hungary is member which means that you accept the standards of this organisation do you accept the standards of this organization we do accept the standard and i think that they got it wrong but if you accept the stand this means that you have to accept also their criticism seriously we take the criticism seriously i think always green interpretation comes into the picture i think they came along as usual with a certain set of ideas about how hungry is that they get that from the western media the western media are listening only to the opposition so the ignore the greys of interpretation its ok be used to them but this is not really an answer the head of the Observer Mission douglas wake said there was. Perceptor vase of overlap between state and ruling Party Resources which undermined the ability of a position candidates to compete equally having democratic elections mean not tilting the scales look the carriers are always tilted to some degree depending on what the population the voters really want. Come all this knowledge a cynical or democrat i dont think is cynical i think its realistic i mean think about suicide a cynical to be cynical is realistic not invariably i mean you know what would cynical leaders dog like behavior i dont think im a dog is morality something in politics well that in politics will be slinked and obviously equally obviously morality is something that must always open to question otherwise you get into what is new and in the trade of monism a single concept of morality which is anti democratic purposes of union but lets speak about the free press this is constitutional for democrats for their markets its the journalists were pressured state broadcaster biased in government messages compared overlap with your parties in that what you call fair the freedom of press i would not call that but then thats only one opinion of how things are really hungry if you look at the entire picture of the media theres enormous diversity the trouble is you see that other than hunger is nobody in the area so they cant do a Proper Content analysis looking over the country to understand if the standards of free press are given on not well i think it really helps if you actually do knew something about but on three toned this is a really problem judge about certain scales and standards i think there is a real problem i read what happens when its a. Really new because i have to take the word of a journalist the. Interpreters who tell me and they have a bias theyre not objective. Lets talk about migration because this was the overwhelming Campaign Issue during the campaign sorry Prime Minister often says quote we do not consider these people as muslim refugees we consider them muslim in vegas do you agree i think the city caloric migrant. He does the has in the past i was present when he said this there are three types of people coming to europe there are genuine political refugees Asylum Seekers there are economic migrants and there are fighters we know im speaking about invaders this is the world i mean we there are muslim invaders. It depends on how you define the invasion if you defy you vision in this instance of peaceful invasion then i think is clearly the case very large numbers of people arrived in hungary without so much as by a leave in twenty fifteen march through the country this was traumatic you know what invaders means there is a connotation with the word this is hate speech if you say muslim invaders this is hate speech isnt it i dont think it is so what is hate speak well that the muslims the muslims generalization invaders we know how these pictures are used everybody chair the voices you generalize aijalon generalize if i speak about groups especially religious groups im sorry so much your Prime Minister generalized not only saying the muslims but hes also adding invaders what a picture you know what this means. I think violence i think what you mean that this isnt necessarily the same as what or about me and secondly of course to call it give it is a we made generalized judgments about religious groups just as much as secular ones invaders means aggression you have a lot of potential of threatening people do you believe that the muslim groups as he said are invaders are what i saw in twenty fifteen when i was there. Was structural violence something against which nothing could be done it was a flood of people who were paying no attention to what they were doing if you want to call the supervision you can call that invasion you could also call it a tie and you can use all sorts of i dont even. Speak about refugees migrants he said muslim yes i think that the greeks which already is not one hundred percent to some christians they were overwhelmingly. Muslim youre a member of the Parliament Article twenty one of the european charter clearly states code any discrimination based on any ground such as religion or believe shall be prohibited muslim invaders if that is not a religious discrimination then what is it if youre quoting rich ultra fundamental rights fine please recall article one which is about Human Dignity and here the Human Dignity of the hungarian population is every bit as important as that of the muslim but we all agree do you believe that in hungary this is todays reality muslim invaders millions could come to our very are in our agree and want to suppress your people feeling about hungary i understand you have to see to the european context possibly a clue will context the question of large numbers of people in the world are on the move hungary i think experienced this profound shock in twenty fifteen. And they are there a lot at this particular time very large numbers of dross of muslims were not very many and hungry what the great majority of hungarys do not want. Pulling figures to back this up is that there should be a lot of witnesses serving fair enough but we are now in twenty eight years and the squads are also partly coming from b. Election campaign twenty eighteen so whats about today you still believe that there could be a Muslim Invasion in your country i think i wouldnt use the word invasion which is the one that youre in love with no its your Prime Minister who isnt allowed you keep i will reserve you keep quoting if they want to take away our country who exactly who exactly mr shovelin wants to take away your country i think the very large number of refugees who may potentially want to settle in hungary aided and abetted by western liberals. And they want to take away your country they want to transform the country in such a way that its no longer recognizable to the great majority of people who live there at this time rightly or wrongly on one hand your Prime Minister always said nobody of these refugees wants to stay in hungry they want to go to germany on the other hand youre telling your people that every muslim wants to stay in hungary i dont understand the logical argument why do think were seeing every muslim saw a lot i mean for the last ones to take away our country this is a quantity this is a certain quantity with the exactly how many but we really do want to find out. You proposed you propose peace first putting pig heads on the border fences to give us yes i did i did tweet this quite right what was the idea behind that well it all began with some picture of i think mosques which i saw as being a trip a. I said well why stay with mosques why not put up pictures that this was criticized to be racist and degrading idea or was it racist i dont think it is i think it looking at the way in which for islam. Pork pigs are acceptable. A form of pollution and therefore to see to them look if you come to hungary you will find that people eat pig people eat pork in hungary we have been back we respect islam religion dont respect really respect this religion i believe what you mean by respect of course it exists this religion. As respectable as christianity or jew is. I have some problems with. This islamic theological doughty one that christianity is respected. I would like to see a christianity if its respected i think thats right do you know that for example your idea with the pick heads is also racist any degrading idea for joy im fully aware of so was it also a message to the jews because it was not clear to assume the message was given. I think it was clear in the context submitted was about that on the fence and it was facing. Migrants coming towards hungary i think is very clear i have said elsewhere that one of the responsibilities of the present government in hungary is to protect the Third LargestJewish Community this is a rude rude yeah i think to to express a no four cultivate person as you are to use pigs you know what this means for people who are jews or muslims or dont you know i have idea you know oh you have an idea i have a fairly good idea with some will not take it quite a seriously as you are at this point looking over as you have to decide to do it its one thing but how seriously it is taken this is also something you know or you are suddenly very naive not though you have to condemn it im simply saying the subjective perception of a few noble will always very i have no idea how. Religious jew would respond you have no idea ive no idea because they vary among themselves some i know that this is not a religious attempt only it is also a principle a tent for jew of for and it must lead a principle take care. Nazis antisemitic people are throwing pick heads. At the synagogue to describe their disrespect now its offense not to hungary not in hungary there is no and to some it has been angry very little very little what are you really sure most what the surveys tell me thats what the reality is not telling me the Word Jewish Congress for example was very clear on that that not only hungry and your government has a problem with muslims but also with jews i think. In this respect nobody is in error this is the first government of hungary. The second obama government which recognized that hungary was responsible in part for the holocaust does that mean that you learned something in the present time well this is a very real and i think the various jewish communities it isnt a single Jewish Community not very accepted this regarded it as positive i was there at that particular occasion theres no question in my mind. You will find individuals around to salute lets talk youll be asked to submit isnt or the election and to semitism of the compay of your Prime Minister i would like to talk about and i guaran Exide George Soros it was almost as if in the most recent election a Prime Minister was running against him he compared sar us to the invading armies of the turks obviates and hobbes books roller saying soros allies in hungary would face revenge revenge for what and why so much the translators have let your word isnt revenge its a mens league theatre is the hungary and would the always believe what the journalists tell us for sources can i think this is a superbly let through trap set by fitness basically in effect making sure the symbolic leader of your position which means that the bulk of hungary of voters will not vote for him. Open or supremacy to send service quote home even though the anger in born finance here has not been in the country for years what deep alben mean sending home this is a symbolic schorsch not the real individual its a symbolic one as i know we have individual support of what the symbolic solver us is a symbol quite right there are individuals who sure are symbolizes one liberalism or of a particular kind certainly visceral up. You should feel dirty visceral opposition to all bomb its a part of and most of the people were sent home they hadnt been sent home it was a simply i think part of a Campaign Rhetoric i do think anybody will be sent home but as you probably knew society is currently thinking about moving to berlin i thought that in the market is our positions are not sent home they are part of foam but a lot of the debate around ceasar us and his influence has descended into lines of argument about quote International Finance which is a code word used by enter somites you remember also by the nazis this is soros is jewish victor alben who is a very intelligent man who we agree with you must know which claims he was feigning when he played with anti semitic stereotypes to release compay to suit his own to. Give a reading but i think it was much more about the finance im sure as you know who has actually been fined in france for his speculations two Million Pounds of the bank of england have a british tax of on is also not a very let me say socialist person he loves to make businesses but this what you are telling us is is years ago we are today why does he play with the International Finance picture you can scrub history and timely rule me the whole room past you would be included merely because this is happened fifteen twenty years ago doesnt mean that it lacks a reality to the dark look under as heisler the chairman of the hunger in jewish federations called on mr orban to end the campaign using the ceasars picture the organization said it was a proxy for antisemitism. There i can understand that has they were going to see this because of course he is in touch with the world Jewish Congress and so on and they are concerned. But it seems to me that theres a real danger of anti semitism in countries where theres a large Muslim Minority not in hungary do you know do you remember being an economic and historian that antisemitic ism existed also in east europe. Before refugees came three years ago do you remember that also in your country before they came you had problems i wanted only to add that to your comment because it looks like theyre lying and some it is more of today the addison it is most muslims alone can i answer this least i was there when the holocaust took place i was four years old i remember seeing people with yellow stars i bought an old enough to watch the trees pulling out of the Brick Factory for sure its of course i knew i knew all this i worked on this but at the same time i do not believe that everything can be written down as anti semitism there are different interpretations and the with which the campaign was wrong would certainly has certainly been seen as and to semitic by various weeklies doesnt mean he was. And destro hard from Human Rights Watch said coming back to your pig you words are disgusting i would expect that from anonymous neo nazi trolls but you are an m. E. P. Act like one is wrong. Hes disgusting i think you also called me human filth thats not a language its hate speech well at that point the argument ceases is new longer an argument thats interesting you are very clear about a judgement this cloaked but you cant be as clear about yourself with pickets. Look as far as the pic herds of pics heads are concerned i think ive made my position fairly clear what i thought prison for to experiment and spare a thought experiment thought experiment yes. Many people took it for real so i called a whole lot of hate mail shoreline was the launch launch pad i imagine want us really to where tweets come from but it happened im im a sadder and wiser person i want to try to understand your fear how many hunger wins are. Enormous very difficult to see exactly is the hunger areas but we generally count about thirteen and a half million but then there are people in the United States of hungry and descent who say they are hungry and they can actually apply some kind of want at work ten million more or less more than the ok how many muslims live in hungary and twenty thousand not even zero point five cent take the organ says he wants to keep Europe Christian do you agree i agree with this yes so no muslims muslims years of fear except the dome of the norms which are derived from christianity christian Europe Christian what about jews jews find them funny well its because we do judy a christian tradition that were looking at christianity has taken a great deal from judaism at the relationship between christians and jews as our as i know has been bloody christian persecuted and kill jews up until the Second Vatican Council i think i couldnt agree with you more this is a very shameful part of european history on the other hand at this particular time i think relations between christians and jews have never been better i have a question you are a member of the European Union rights here parliament. But hungary is still a member of the new where i left strasburg yesterday the answer was yes so the freedmen freedom of movement is one of the pill