Usual and he said your president was trying to muzzle every critical voice so mr other one hit back telling him he should know his limits who are you to talk to the president of turkey he said how old are you do you expect european governments to to bow down and flatter your proud and well when we criticized the German Authorities and we get also similar similar comments and they have been also insulting me from the time when the recording is high unfortunately you see the statements coming from such statements come from both sides this is what they say later on i worked with the same Foreign Minister gabriele to normalize the relations i visited him at his house he offered me a key and turkish deal and we worked together to normalize relations and we have made a lot of Progress Why Dont You Focus and pay more attention to this process but only the negative aspect of our relations which was in the past what is
extraordinary in the light of your comments over the last two years is that you are now pressing to join the e. U. Within the next five years this is according to your deputy Prime Minister reggie tag what he told. German newspaper developed a few days ago he accused the e. U. Of acting unfairly allowing several boken countries to join first and he said turkey deserves to join the e. U. Earlier than any other cant have turkey has been waiting for sixty years and in the last sixteen years we made a lot of reforms when we had the best relations with the European Union i mean Two Thousand And Six immediately after we started the negotiations and some countries france and also the European Union commission block several chapters and those days we didnt have any better relations with the europeans it was excellent so what is trying to do that it to say that my deputy Prime Minister it wont when we do the
reforms and when we reach the opening and closing benchmarks of the chapters unfortunately due to the political off the girls we havent made any progress so why dont you respect his opening hes the deputy Prime Ministers and you question every statement of one turkish politicians but when you never question the european side or the obvious stuff because we have of course we question the european side but you dont represent europe so im i dont know than we were i dont know if youre an insult to devolve turkey i must i opine those i am planning member of the Council Of Europe my friend and i share the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council Of Europe for two years when you are here as a Foreign Minister and you are also a member of nato we are member of the o. E. C. D. And we are the party iotas we are not asking for us either we are part of the europe major line if you are not to be part of that you are mr Foreign Minister why if you want to continue did your president Tell Parliament in ankara last october
to tell the truth we dont need membership anymore so which is it you wanted in five years or you dont want it anymore which is a this is the reaction. There is. The reaction. When European Union behaves turkey that on the turkey needs European Union turkey needs European Union and European Union needs turkey we are everywhere of this but some European Countries unfortunately dont see the fact so why so you dont even the men only said you dont need to turn trees in the European Union actually against turkey your membership may be my shirt off the e. U. Countries you members this actually are in favor of turkish when actually you know one membership anymore he said you struck us a lot of the accuracy of the reactions yours is the reaction of the country who has been waiting at the door for sixty years ok sixty years so i was away that it is
turkey is a mistake so why they said yes so why threaten Europe In March Last year when the deadline date running what can what kind of threaten in march last year when theres a sematic route with germany was at its height your president said that if europe continues this way no european in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets thats what he said thats a threat thats a direct threat no it is not a truck and that not be a threat it is not a threat it is the actually he is warning the europe if you are in hypocrisy in our fight against terrorism and if you are allowed the terrorists to active to be active in your countries. If you. Believe that the batteries but is the best one if you allow them to raise money forcibly if you allow their illegal activities in your countries and in the future then nobody will
twenty three thousand people have been arrested no that is not true not because of the there are people who are sellers up to banks there are murderers there are rapist there are the Rock Traffickers you know do you need to do what they do with this kind of people in your country do you have some advantages right now was your question let me give you asked me a question yes i cannot speak over as you did and im trying to answer and what would you do for the people who are involved in the crime in your country there are more than two thousand turks from turkey not the turks living in germany are in the prison why did you put them in the prison then why because maybe they are involved in the crime i cannot say that they are innocent because you have the judiciary the Rest Of The World isnt buying these explanations is it the chief human rights if you like and i justify it if you like i say the question if you dont like you dont you dont buy it this is the offer do you think the senior boss yeah not the boy im talking about also you hear about the senior Human Rights Official of the
united nations who is concerned by Arbitrary Mass Dismissals of Civil Servants and private sector employees arbitrary closure of Civil Society organizations arbitrary detention the use of Torture Deal Treatment during pretrial detention restrictions on Free Expression and Movement Arbitrary Expropriation of private property those are things that he is concerned about not me hes concerned im talking about the chief security right sophisticated or my people is more important than what hes saying and hes a biased person and theres a Conflict Of Interest i know him very well ok and these people these associations belong to the petcock which also which is who i dont know is fertile farmland own i dont know is a Terrorist Organizations and i was a murderous because people dont know because many of. Western countries were very happy. On that night ok because. He attempted to coup
but he failed and in the morning many western countries who like him very much regretted that the coup failed therefore for you he is a good man but for turkish people which Western Country has actually for the core who has a good man and for others and for turkish people and for many other friendly countries he this is a terrorist organization thats why many countries are closing their networks and the schools in those countries which guess which Western Country hailed the which Western Country approved of the coup unfortunately the majority of which which was given amy more than anyone does it not even you cant name me one no i cant give you which one which one of many european kind which one many of i have almost all of you cant you cant give me one you are divorcing why i know about the came to visit us after the coup you can give me a single one almost all of them really yes and you cant give me
a single name almost all of them you cant pick i want you to quote almost all of them pick one almost all are censors almost all of the really yes you have no evidence for that whatsoever i have the evidence of that i many ministers that night actually a question me three oclock in the morning how turkey was going to treat this plotters instead of asking me how i was doing personally and how the situation was in turkey who do you think people are going to believe the u. N. Human rights official who speaks out against Human Rights Violations in the world or you representing the ministration which is charge it is with massive abuse of human rights we are going to going to be is up to you and it is up to the people if you think you think human rights are just artificial obstacles note you know because your president said in a recent interview i call on the e. U. To remove these artificial. Obstacles artificial obstacle means the political
obstacles to the rise of racism islamophobia some countries are against turkeys membership this is exactly what i meant you know president is what hes saying that turkey is ready to continue their relations with the European Union on the basis of the standouts democratic standards but if you look at the obstacles because of cyprus or because of sarkozy because of that all of them are artificial and the political one ok mr Foreign Minister lets talk about settler girl and the islamic cleric in the states youve asked the states to is a terrorist or going to have an army is now that you tell me no no no can i give you the question first yes but you have other you have to disagree with you have asked us this is what i mean look it when you are most to us is are an authorized his is a hes a promoter and hes
a terrorist i understand what you say you like what he did in china thats why you said islamic cleric this is exactly what i meant now you answer im not you im not going to use your leg now you are answering the years in that you put yourself you want the u. S. To extradite him yes. What is causing increasing concern in the United States is the fact that in april twenty sixth youre arrested an american missionary Andrew Branson apparently to hold a Bargaining Chip unless and until the u. S. Extradite school and the reason we know that is because you know that this is whats happening is what youre this is what your president admitted in the speech last autumn he said about the americans give us the pass the back they say you have one pastor as well meaning delenn give him to us then we will try him branson and give him to you what is that if not Hostage Diplomacy is not of this diplomacy my friend what is it the ransom the offering in exchange is accused and the indictment
is there if you have if you spare five minutes to read the indictment you will see what kind of accusations there are in the indictment it is a poorly judicial process it is not a politically motivated process so why are you offering to trade you know we didnt we never offered you get no we didnt give us a pastor back no one we are given to us well never try and were going to you he never did that but when that there are agreements between between the countries including between turkey and the United States actually to extradite the people or to xchange of the prisoners to him to sometimes when the prisoner a sentence for instance you can send it to him or her to. Her or his host countries these are the agreements it can happen but if youre Offering Manicuring or we had we didnt offer and i am telling you that there agrement no no
no no give us about i give you the quote this is how you are interpreted and we have we have never been in this kind of bargaining with any country my friend and only sometimes the intelligence is actually walked together to. Diet some terrorists or when there is a serious situation this is a kind of cooperation between the countries but pastor is has been detained he has not been charged but there are serious accusations you read the indictment and you can see yourself what kind of if you show that in Exchange Minister lets talk about syria youre playing you said a leading role in the political process with syria you therefore have to take some of the blame for the fact that this process has got precisely nowhere has it geneva a stand such as the russians have allowed president assad to basically keep winning the war and have cemented his position you said you wanted assad out you are
further away from achieving that goal that any time or two well we believe that. That cannot rule this country anymore because he has killed almost one Million People and it is it is not only after me you know youre playing a leading role in the talks that ill tell you it is up to the Syrian People actually at the end to decide to whom actually who should going to rule the country maybe thats why we need to prepare the country for the democratic elections turkey has been playing an Important Role crucial role at different platforms and since aleppo we have been working we started working with russia then we included iran as well because you are like it or not iran is also an important actor we disagree with iran on different issues including the south but this is a major issue this is this is a live issue and they are working on your interest not but they now you have been
your best friend this is that they are not my best friend i have been working with them but you dont have to agree on everything with their country or person to Work Together sometimes you cant put this. Its in the brackets but asked on a process for instance have been very helpful to actually. Consulate date the ceasefire the Escalation Zones and also to take some confidence Building Steps between measures between the regime and the opposition and living the power with a man who has killed a Million People in cairo your by your accusation you cement his power thats no no no thats not true its about that is after we have never changed our position the russians are not going to let russia although i know you that this is a very serious problem syria it is not only my problem im trying to explain what the situation is and what we have been trying to do ok asked anarky such as it was
only once and wheeling such a genie was the problem is nobody is paying enough attention to geneva i mean the political process now it is not only about russia and iran it is also about our allies in the coalition so without i mean get in without taking any steps forward all making any progress or achievements in geneva how can we be sure about the political solution now the Constitutional Committee has to be formed. And i am i pessimistic about everything yes no not not very pessimistic in in almost a year and a half we made a lot of progress but we still must do a lot more together all right and they are not all running out of time like i just and then well you know there was a short period call attention to both fighting terrorists and also to the political
process one last question in this to your elections are coming up in june parliamentary president ial elections youve invited the o. S. C. E the Organization For Security And Cooperation In Europe to monitor these elections as we did before. As you did before and the ransome of europe and ultimately as you rejected their criticism out of hand when they said to you that the vote last year had not lived up to the standards of the sea and the Council Of Europe your president said i do not see hear or acknowledge reports by the o. S. C. E. Observer mission so why bother to invite them once again when youre going to reject any criticism no i dont object to criticism and we have been whiting or c. Or c. Order and parliamentarism of the Council Of Europe to monitor the elections in turkey every single elections when there is a local elections actually the Council Of Europe it again or observes the elections last year some of the members of this at the committees unfortunately participated
to campaign or. Prop ekk party h. T. T. P. Including under who go who is a german policy you dont like what they say you accuse them of being pro peace or play saw the observers should be or projective and ballasts they cannot take a site they cannot part i also observe elections in many countries during my years at the Council Of Europe so. Should be objectively and balanced we can not take a site we cannot participate the campaigns of any particular Party Analyst thank you for the results you want theyre going to be by and large if youre called or if you participate at the p. K. K. Propaganda you are biased if you support the p. K. K. You are a terrorist supporter very clear thank you mr very much for being on congress on. My. My
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