For minutes you know. Her. Voice has power and beauty combined. Have a heart. Its in the pantheon of the great tenors certainly heres one for the ages of ten or fourteen starts december twenty second on t. W. Hello and welcome to quadriga germanys Conservative Party has a new leader and a great crumb Current Power she takes over the reins from chancellor Angela Merkel who was clearly rooting for her to win the contest for the Party Leadership formerly state premier of this island a k k a shes often called edged out a strong contender conservative corporate lawyer freebies from outs but despite being uncle americas favorite she faces the tough task of uniting
a divided party and heightening her own political profile to many voters shes an unknown quantity and important european and state elections are in the offing does an agreed crumb qanbar have what it will take not only to do that but also to succeed her mentor Uncle Americal as chancellor thats the question we pose on this weeks fredricka here are guests its a pleasure to welcome. You back to the program shes a correspondent for the french magazine live class and she says i doubt that the new team in berlin will deliver a huge boost for europe and very glad to have dark scally with us once again hes a correspondent for the irish times and he says. I believe that a k. K. Will have to make clear to Uncle Americal and soon who is chef and who is waitress in their relationship and reestablish germany as a source of ideas and momentum. For European Integration and finally its
a pleasure to greet multilane when he works for the Daily Journal tucker spiegel and he says k. K. Is a conservative catholic and european she fought successful elections has governing experience and knows her own party well she could definitely be the next shots later and most of them in let me start with you and ask you quite simply why should the world care about a change in the leadership of germanys Conservative Party a skeptical viewer might say this is just internal party politics. The city who is is is the strongest most powerful german party in germany i would say it is by and large the fault biggest saw economy in the world in the strong powerhouse in germany so why should they care they have to care who would be the next fencer and by any chance the next chance is the new party leader of the c. D. U. So the the odds are high that they come pomp i will be possibly the new
chancellor what that means were going to come back to later on in the program dr scully certainly our colleagues care Eighteen HundredInternational Journalists were registered for that Party Conference at which and a great crown qanbar was confirmed as party leader are they just in their political bubble here in berlin or is this in fact an event of great momentum yes no i was in hamburg it was quite the bottom five not everyone could get into the main hall no i think this shows what people in germany dont often realize is how much tension germany now gets it started during the euro crisis its been building germany has become the indispensable part of the european puzzle it always was but i think what im going merkel with her slow deliberate style trying to bring people along it just made clear that will eat if you can get a deal through without germany and i think that makes people here slightly nervous when they realize how ive been is watching but you saw it in one burg everyone expects i dont have huge expectations and theres been a lot of you know have come kabar talk but a lead in period on the from america we need new ideas we need new momentum and the
rest of europe is watching that may make certain germans nervous but i think they just need to grow up and realize germany is a big power they must be comfortable with leading bus at least leading by example and coming up with some new ideas for europe you are Opening Statement said you dont think this new team is going to deliver a big boost for europe the fact is that a lot of people in france have been looking toward this Coalition Government for Real Movement on some of the Reform Proposals that president. Call france has made and they havent gotten an answer until now and now im a great come Current Power is from a Western State of germany very close to the French Border at times its even been part of france in past history do you not think she is going to act in a way instinctively pro european i think shes definitely pro you see and i mean she as you said she has been is the president in this region which is just opposite
as us and not telling him she speaks perfect friend she has had a very very pro european policy imposing for example that in schools you learn french the language of the. Neighbor program hes very pro european i think he thinks its not so much a problem of hope personality and our politics its the problem that its too late i mean were going to have a European Election may imagine mccourt has been waiting for eighteen months to get a move and unsought from germany and now this window which had been opened by the arrival of the pro european in france has closed i think its too late would you both agree with that you both mentioned European Integration in your Opening Statements as a potential plus on im going i was going to talk about Europe The Solution is right now only a small part of it lies in berlin and germany if we talk about europe we are
watching the bracks to tears im watching the problems of him on the michael we are watching italys government consisting of left wing inviting populist parties. East European Countries very nationalistic scandinavian countries facing right wing populism as well so europe itself is in a very very bad condition and i dont see how any chancellor of germany if its merkel i think id come convolve can solve this problem even if you make deals with him on them. About his reform plans and so on and on this is just a small portion of what needs to happen in your own but your same old what can be done i think a new leader a new face a fresh face can say create a positive message i in germany i think they they dont really have much trust in the power of the message but she proved in hamburg being elected c. D. U. Leader the power of the political speech she got people behind them she motivated people and she and her entire speech was very cleverly constructed around the word moved courage so she could take that and build rebuild the c. D. U. But take us to the european stage and say im a new face i believe momentum i believe that the European Union of twenty seven has a future and i believe in this project and im not going to lead the debate to be hijacked by populist because the populist theyre a tiny proportion theyre the non populists are the majority in europe and theyre at the considerable majority and i think the european german leaders are always damned if they do a number they dont know that if germany tries to suggest something everyone else will say oh does germany were not going to be bullied by germany but you dont need to come up in a sort of project but to give a signal this is what youre was prepared to do because in the euro crisis all weve heard is what germany isnt prepared to do and im slightly worried that the european debate in germany has been slightly poisoned by all they just want to get into art they just want to pick our pockets whats this going to cost germany germany is still a fundamentally european country but they havent been you know almost the need to renew their vows and just rhetorical bring in bring a bit of courage in there lets see what this new face as you put it whats behind
this new face and whether in fact she is the leader who can help germany to read you its vows lets take a look. State Prime Minister c. D. U. General secretary and now the Seaview Party leader. On a great crowd power and power has had a remarkable career shes considered a political moderate and a team player. And she was on the americans preferred candidate. But she is by no means a miracle clone. She comes from Western Germany americal comes from. Shes catholic merkel is protestant. And she has three children america has not. Compound our differs with america on several points of policy
a party leader favors a tougher stand on immigration. Shes opposed to same sex marriage and is considering reintroducing Military Conscription she says germany should take a harder line with russia. Will monograph prompt Current Power managed to set a new course for the c. D. U. Lets go you quinn Uncle Americal took power she was sometimes referred to as coles girl because in fact the chance to have a cold had been her mentor is under great come about anything more than magical reloaded is she really going to take her party and potentially the country in a different direction well thats what she promised to do she said im not a mini me. And i actually shes proved that she is a solid politician and the woman of our own i mean shes directed shes a shes been leading this all of these little states. Bordeaux for a long time she was minister she was she has a wrong idea shes doing to come. Paying for the election is a president of that city you she says shes also showing that her ideas do diverged quite considerably from the ideas of ongoing america on the on the the migrant is you sort of. So truly issues like the marriage the gay marriage and abortion i mean shes not shes a shes got to prove it now and thats going to be very important to not to separate to cut the the chords to get american and to show that shes she can stand on her own feet which i think everybody who has observed her in the last years knows she can one of the spectres that has been hanging over the conservatives here in germany now to laming has been the rise of the far right party the a. F. D. Uncle the medical was sometimes criticized from within her own party for taking the
c. D. U. Too far toward the Political Center and alienating voters on the right leaving them free essentially to go to this further right party would you expect a great crime Current Power to take the conservatives back toward a more conservative part of the party spectrum expect if its minimal portions i would be glad i think that if he will get between ten and fifteen percent of the vote in the east much more but thats the everetts between ten and fifteen percent i dont see any party leader in germany in the city who if its likely i think they come come before you and spawn these but the three candidates to really get them back into the boat because it will split them apart but to really hold those voters back into the cold war we have been back and back in the conservative big tanks. First thing was european policy you could not compromise about European Integration in the city you but the f. T. Were against European Integration and the second were the Refugee Crisis so i can
see how the fact in substance and the political leader of the city who could. Bring them back into the boat decks go you recently described in an article that kind of counted out as a Quote Risk Taker and deal maker are we then looking at a real change in leadership style compared to two chancellor merkel and if so where would you see those characteristics coming into play i think them fascinating but im glad marcus she spoke when she was a child as a girl in school she would spend the entire Swimming Lesson standing on the edge of the diving board and literally at the last moment to finally dive into it shed screw up her courage and jump in and she did exactly the same thing by giving up the c. D. U. Leadership she waited for the last possible moment you do with dignity and she did a loop in the air and into the water and got a ten minute Standing Ovation thats a risk taking but it was at the very last moment thats one kind of risk taking i think on a bit come camo has said we need to be faster we need to be more courageous we need
to bring people with us you know sooner rather than later i mean merkel frustration many people she joked about it at the Party Conference you drove people her own stuff crazy she couldnt even come up with the slogan for the Party Conference until a few days beforehand you know she ruled the country this way pasta you know i mean making a decision she wanted to see everything every risk she had to weigh everything up and thats thats Odd Mobile But For Come Commerce that we just need to be faster we kind of keep people waiting like for us the biggest risk youd want to see her take right now and whats the biggest deal youd want to see her make at home i would be very interested in seeing if she can cut she can cut some slack for the various wings of the Party America she brought the party to the center but many people would say she neglected the right and she did for many people the unforgivably she allowed a party to move in on the far right and on people have always said that is the golden rule of german politics do not let anything come up on the far right itll be interesting to see whether she chooses to be the person to bring back in these conserve or at least make them an offer or whether she will enable somebody
somebody who has a conservative profile to do that and shell say were going to fight in public but you have my blessing to do this because we need to be more inclusive as a. R. T. I think that hasnt happened enough in the last year or so she manages to do that that would be quite something that the cd becomes a catch all party again also for annoyed to devote to a go the the furious people because there are a lot of them at the Party Conference ive been asking myself and i wonder if you feel this way as well what it means that the conservatives have chosen a woman for the second time to lead their party and whether that wouldnt seem to go in a different direction from the idea that theyre returning to sort of their conservative roots and base i mean its unfortunate that we have to ask ourselves this question is and its now a days. It shows that the c. D. U. Has become. Has has the money to to modernize these party i mean remember when he was elected it was a sensation the woman for the first time and from the east that was also something
we mustnt forget with and forget that she came from the east which at the time was also incredible. Yeah its very its i dont know what to say about that its just very sad and we should take it theres something very normal and she can be in shes a woman but shell have another political side she might she will have other political ideas you put. Stress another direction. But it shows that german politics have accepted that women can be in power and thats in these very conservative quite packed trackable country quite an event what happened to the white old club. Seems. Very alive and well in the a. F. D. To sort of degree but let me ask you this month. A great country come canberra announced that as party leader her first actions would be focused on migration and security but to be honest Isnt The Debate On Migration that has absolutely split
her party split the conservatives is it very much about the past rather than the present many people say germany doesnt have a migration crisis. At the moment so what exactly is it that you would expect her to change and does she have the room to maneuver to do it shes governing in a Grand Coalition after all and she governs all in this tiny little state. And made some some quite i would say spectacular but different policies towards migrants or refugees then in berlin for example miners the miners have to go through in d. N. A. Check to see how old they are if they are really minors or not so she was quite stricter in the Refugee Policy than the rest of. The country the states so there is a different tone and i would agree that there is no no Refugee Crisis in germany but we have huge huge Integration Crisis we have integrated i mean one point two
a one point four million refugees since the fall of Two Thousand And Fifteen came into this country and its still a huge huge test to be solved speaking of those deep divisions that were provoked by the debate on migration lets take a look at the other contenders for the Party Leadership and what that tells us about the current political mood here in germany. So its going to this was the moment of defeat for the Comic Con Preview who represents the probusiness and conservative wing of the party was defeated in the second round of voting. For the people of germany expect the government to exercise control over our borders and over the people who come here over the past few years we have not done this for. Another candidate yans the Current Health minister opposes chancellor merkels Refugee Policy and again takes
a conservative stand on many issu