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DW The Day April 25, 2019

Is it confirmed that the ninth suicide bomber was a woman who was in that and a kind of damage to go to a house just. And was she trained you called her a suicide cutter or she trained to this is that. She definitely did commit suicide. Also coming up tonight a bright sit all to made him from scotland in the making the u. K. Could still be months away from leaving the European Union but if and when it does that could be the trigger for scotland to leave the united kingdom. Westminster highs feel that it has failed to protect scotlands interests it has failed to reach consensus and it has degenerated into chaos. But to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the rising death count from sri lankas Easter Sunday suicide bombings on wednesday the number of lives lost in attacks on churches and who tells rose to three hundred fifty nine the number of injured is now five hundred as of sri lankans continue to bury their dead we are seeing the First Political fallout from the tragedy the government has admitted that it ignored multiple intelligence warnings about an imminent attack on churches today the president called for both heads of the police and the Defense Ministry to resign the president maintaining that he was kept in the dark about these security threats but the opposition says that this is not just a case of political dysfunction but rather political fear the Opposition Leader today told reporters the government did not act on the terror warnings because it did not want to anger Muslim Leaders and alienate that segment of its voter base or todays most Disturbing Development has to be what we have learned about the suicide bombers today the government released more c. C. T. V. Images showing a man with a backpack inside one of the hotels hit on sunday the government says there were nine a suicide bombers eight men and one woman they had apparently joined a fringe group of islam ista extremists in sri lanka but their backgrounds their incomes and their education were anything but fridge heres what the Deputy Defense minister said about them today. Most of. It you created. And come from maybe middle upper middle class. Financially independent and you know their families quite stable financially so that is a very active. Because some of them have i think studied. In various other countries. All right that was the Deputy Defense minister theyre here at the big table with me now is young thing pierre he is a Counter Terrorism expert and c. E. O. Of the modern Security Consulting group which is known as move the khan based right here in berlin good to see you again so we learned today that the suicide bombers were well educated they came from wealthy families one had even studied abroad in yet they became suicide bombers and mass murderers on sunday people seeing that are going to ask how in the world did that happen well its not atypical actually if you look at the long history of terrorism people coming from middle class upper class families in law right right there comes from the royal family. Have been one did not blow himself up he did not blame himself up but he died a pagan incited others to do that theres an appeal to the ideology does a sense of meaning that goes way beyond what people can achieve with education or wealth or social standing and this meaning is often the driver behind me darkness of the situation trying to turn a suicide bomber the Sri Lankan Government says that the terrorist had to have help from abroad was sundays attack the product of tutoring by Islamic State thats hard to tell because of the investigation you know we have very Little Details everything thats coming out its doubtful in many ways because it seems like the minute they find something its made public so relieved change their story did exactly it sunday right exactly so that creates a lot of confusion. What we know however is that the Islamic State propaganda since sunday has been very consistent both within the fan clubs and the official propaganda no mentions of Christ Church but nonetheless a lot of the saying we were part of it the videos the images and so on so thats helped me they were involved in some degree now whether they were actually tutoring the suicide bombers or not thats another issue but there was a degree of involvement and thats really the part that means you can i mean based on what youve seen with other attacks do you agree with the governments assessment that this was simply too big of an operation and too complex for it to have been a strictly a shrill lincoln operation through yes and no in the sense where the access to the material to do the bombs dot com because its not just people going in theres a certain degree of being of nervousness of course of stress so you have what they called it dont godfathers people accompanying them to make sure that the bomb goes off so youre talking about a lot more than the ninety people involved in the attacks directly a lot more people other bombs were discovered as well so that tells me theres a huge level of logistics however other attacks in Southeast Asia shown as well that locals groups have the capacity to conduct such attacks we have this family last year in indonesia in last spring who acted on its own and so its very good evidence in that sense you know i can still remember u. S. Vice president mike pence announcing not so long ago that isis is no more isis has been defeated. Sra lake of the it proves isis may not have a counterfeit but it is still alive and is deadly as ever is it doesnt have a caliphate anymore but it has a lot of groups active in africa in central asia in Southeast Asia that are very much alive to them and spread the brand and the ideology so to say such a comment like that of mike pence or any other politician to say that isis is defeated is a ludicrous comment and is not accurate to what were seeing i mean im just im just wondering me to speculate here but i when when you have the Vice President or the president or any political leader in the west saying Something Like that does that then lead other governments for example its really good to let down their guard a little when they hear the pronouncement ok weve weve defeated the terrorists now really because usually and this is where a strike of becomes another issue the intel reports for Security Security Services gives you a different picture now if the reports and share of the intel is not shared theres a certain degree of complacency and arrogance that can come and said we have everything and thats a forget sri lanka has decades of experience dealing with terrorism albeit it was a civil war and ten years ago nonetheless theres a sense of weve been there we know how to handle this but the threats changed over the last ten years and so all of this creates as per a perfect storm with would you say that there was arrogance involved here or was or is this just gross incompetence and dysfunction that were seeing in the in the government in sri lanka everything complacency arrogance test function political i mean using the information for power so ive seen in other countries as well so when i saw that in sri lanka i wasnt surprised again were talking about perfect storm the political tensions play a role as well we know the president and the Prime Minister do not get along and led to a fight in parliament yeah yeah its just its so. Just think that three hundred. People had to die because of. Always we appreciate your insights thank you thank you. For many muslims enjoy because a the backlash after the Easter Sunday attacks these suicide bombings have been condemned by muslim groups but many in the Community Say they feel vulnerable he. Has this report. Sheikh. Back home often. Thought hes disappeared to spend the night in his house. And other ships on Easter Sunday a few hundred metres from where he lives a massive loss hit the age. He fled the next day with his three Young Children and wife. And i feel. That we had to see it so since we had being in the in the main draw so we thought off. And also being with that with the children we. That is that even what were what made us to the site believe how says he or. She is grief stricken about the attacks and feels guilty that the. Time. Hes christian not to think of him and his family. All along his street the home office muslim neighborhood. Several muslim one businesses were attacked but the bombing. Doesnt scale in the city. Bought christian im muslim communities in sri lanka have been targeted by booklist extremists in the past muslims and christians in the country who existed before least so far the Easter Sunday have set off tensions between the two minority communities for the first time. Local muslims have tried to show their support holding prayer sending condolences and a particular condemning the terror attacks but with the traditional friday prayers just around the corner muslims worry it may not be safe to congregate. A small but vocal group of sri lankans are trying to help them. Theyre from different religions and ethnicities and im trying to find ways of reducing the backlash muslims are now facing in religious leaders from both communities are meeting to express their concerns and as well as their solidarity with crackdowns against minorities on modern northern sri lanka and a National Emergency has been declared here again just as it was during the two decades of civil war but really what is occurred trail after the nine eleven incident in the us in the name of National Security and countering terrorism and in sri lanka we have an experience of Civil Liberties being curtailed dramatically during the course of the war and even after the war in the name of fighting sickle terrorism so there is a worry that the similar situation merits probably against muslims this time. Muslims and christians have always kept a respectful distance. Now there is hope that the Easter Sunday bombings could serve as a reason to build stronger bridges between the two communities. I consider that a choice between breaks it and a future for scotland as an independent european nation should be offered in the life of this parliament it scotland is taking note of the option of a referendum on independence within that time scale must be open to us that would be over route to avoiding the worst of the damage breaks it will do even for the most ardent opponent of Scottish Independence the westminster system of government simply does not serve scotlands interests. Well that was nicholas sturgeon promising lawmakers in the Scottish Parliament today that she will organize a referendum on Scottish Independence by two thousand and twenty one if the u. K. Moves forward with breaks and leaves the European Union are back in twenty fourteen the scottish voted against independence but that was before breaks it a majority of scots voted to remain in the European Union todays sturgeon said that londons chaotic drive to leave the e. U. Means that scotland was once again consider independence breaks at talks between the conservatives and labor resumed this week in london but today the leaders of both parties were in Northern Ireland to attend the funeral for Northern Irish journalist lira mckee but he was killed during a riot in london derry last week irish Prime Minister lee overread current bridge Prime Minister to resign may and the i was president Michael Higgins old attended the funeral but he was hit by a stray bullet while standing near the police a small militant group the new ira has claimed responsibility for her death and in an unusual move has apologized to the family. Of a more on this im joined now by ayman melly he is a veteran broadcaster author and editor of the irish news website and blog a man really dot com mr malley its good to have you on the date this funeral this funeral it was it was more than just a funeral for a young woman i talked to me about the significance of what we sold today inside that church. Well it was quite remarkable in fact unique in the history of all the not and because in there you have the irish president and michael de higgins you have the irish Prime Minister leave iran is one of their foremost forces within the who or even concept and who breaks it to be it because of the irish border you had the foreign minister simon the again very prominent on the european stage right now you had the british Prime Minister to resign may and all of the nitty to leaders of the Political Parties in Northern Ireland all in death cathedral but what was really significant was that the priest who preached this sermon in a church of god and protestant cathedral which was quite strange as well he wrote done and he said i commend the politicians who met together in the cranky unless the area of Gary Londonderry where this young woman was killed on holy thursday by a stray bullet when a gunman associated with whats called the new irish small tiny Republican Group opened fire hitting the young woman in the head she had gone to see a riot it was the first time she had seen a riot she was born after the ceasefire and after the erupt of violence looking down the aisle from the put the priest said isnt it terrible let it trying now your own woman how did guy to bring you politicians together. Though was instant applause in the church with the politicians looking for a sham feast including the Prime Minister and the evolution of no not and looking very she im finished and this simply didnt know want to do the politicians dont look like rabbits and lights and eventually the truth starts to cut and judge in the applause we should we take in is because they were the subject of criticism about the priest of the abuse of the priest yeah but they were at sea when just trapped at that moment in time it was one oclock mr miller we have we actually have that part of the eulogy with the priest and the reaction and let me know when as my producer if we can show that is it possible to say that nail ok were going to come back to it i was told to but what we want to come back to what you mentioned there and weve got a quote from the priest today and i want to get your reaction to to that as well he says there is a rule in many of our communities that we do not we should not give information to police this week i have seen rules turned on their head i have seen many people stand up and condemn this culture of violence and coercive control now this is basically this priest this is the priest talking about ratting on people for our viewers around the world tell me why is this such a big deal to the peace and to Northern Ireland. Well ill tell you why its so significant and historically the Police Service of northern arc which was known as the royal us the constabulary predominant league preeminently had been drawn from the Protestant Community in other words they were very very very few catholics in that it riled us the constabulary it was seen to be at protestants constabulary for probably part of the people historically now there was a dramatic reform some years back and even the name of the then police force as it was called the right are second to separate disappear so theres always been arrested since within the Catholic Nationalist Community to give information to the Police Fearful that that information might indeed get a leak out and could result in the informant of the installer be targeted by the part of the roof leaks so there was fear but i was just eight billet Bishop Edward daly of derry the Catholic Bishop i was miss the one did the city jury the troubles of the height of the troubles and we were looking down the long street and which you rich ran from his Parochial House and i said to the bishop tell me this bishop if you looked out there and you saw gunmen on the roof top training a gun on soldiers what would you do and he said i would lift the phone and i would ring the police and i would tell them what i just witnessed my question is tonight. Many people in cricket in the very area of derry thats very catholic nationalist area we pick up the phone i ring the police in saying we know that gun violence we saw that gunman yeah i am not so sure that that historical antipathy are animists toward. Police she said it was the police in all the dog has suspiciously disappeared disappeared while garrett t. To guarantee that people will raid the police and give them specific information added far at that time all that is former is a very very historically dangerous tag mr it was was thrown the for mr melody before we run out of time to give me what youre saying that profound the

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