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DW The Day August 6, 2019 20:30:00

Is this the beginning of a digital package. Will we be subjected to continuous state surveillance. Took a high experts be able to agree on technical guidelines or will Just Technology create deadly new look thomas mucha systems. Robot collapse starts aug 14th on t. W. The us president plans to visit both cities tomorrow where gunman unleashed a violent killing spree last weekend while the motive in the ohio shooting is unclear the passo gunman wanted to kill latinos and prevent what trump has warned of many times an invasion of the us tonight some say trump is not welcome in el paso others say give him a chance to be the consoler in Chief Tonight ill ask a former White Supremacist what she thinks what if anything should the people expect from this president im burnt off in berlin this is the day. I didnt play my president since the moment he got into office the rhetoric that hate. Well i think President Trump is the big problem i truly feel that way. If he hadnt started his campaign by coming down that in a later inflamed techniques because theyre criminals and murderers and rapists. I think that leadership is just of this to get our country has set the stage and is encouraged. I dont think. Its tight ive never seen it so close and. Also coming up in china issues in starkest warning yet to demonstrators in hong kong saying their demands will not be met and that their violence may be met with force. Every citizen one that we want to play and the one full of violent criminals in the measuring hands behind them that those who Play With Fire will perish by it. They hold official. Got. Them to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and Around The World welcome we begin the day beginning to bury the victims of americas hate it has been 3 days since a gunman opened fire at a walmart in El Paso Texas he killed 22 people as burial plans were made in the 1st of the dead are laid to rest the Community Avail passo is far from finding any peace tomorrow the u. S. President plans to visit el paso as well as state no heigho where the weekends 2nd mass shooting took place while some in el paso including a former Congress Member from that area say trump is not welcome and that he and his rhetoric are partly responsible for the increase in hate crimes across the country but others say it is the president s duty to assume the role of consoler in chief we begin tonight with this report from a Town On Americas Southern Border wrecked by grief. A vigil to honor your work week theres a High School Student killed today in washington you know past only 15 years old bright light and quick on his feet thats how his friends remember he will always be there for me. He was a really our. He was a. Positive person he was never and never negative. Always happy. Always trying to make you. Know just how you dont. Like us for. We have a really Strong Community and everybody here loves each other were really big family. Students parents teachers they came together at Horizon High School just outside all pastoral trying to come to terms with what they see as a Terrorist Attack against hispanics all over the past so residents are reeling after 30 days horrific events and they are hoping that the mass murder a crime committed by an alleged White Supremacist from outside the town does not give a pass a bad name after all they say this is a diverse and tolerant place which has consistently ranked one of the safest cities in the u. S. For many years. A border city with an 80 percent latino population el paso has suffered under president s trams and immigrant rhetoric and his administrations 0 tolerance policy at the border residents say Christina Garcia works for a local organization that helps immigrants and Asylum Seekers she says some of her clients are now terrified they feel like every client ive had interaction with theyve had to apologize for what happened this weekend and ive had to reassure them that we that we are going to be a Safe Community but for now they mourn the dead. Every day people gather at the Walmart Store where the mass shooting took place President Trump is expected to visit us on wednesday and we respect him because hes a president but to be honest when welcome him we dont need him this was a very different city and what happened there was the worst thing that could happen to us and i know a lot of people know that if we will come his going to bring a lot of people that really hate hispanic people. Hate is not what should define us they say its not what the United States is all about. Hate in the u. S. My 1st guest tonight speaks with authority about the White Supremacist Movement in america because she used to be a member Shannon Vali Martinez described herself as a former violent White Supremacist she was able to change her heart and mind she now works with the free radicals project to help prevent radicalization of Young Americans she joins me tonight from our washington d. C. Studio shanon we freesheet you taking the time to talk with us tonight your story its fascinating you entered the White Supremacist Movement when you were 15 years old what was it about your childhood that that made you susceptible. How it felt like i was the black sheep in my family i never felt like i had a really deep sense of belonging and then that expanded as i got older and then i would be sexually assaulted when i was 14 years old and the rage that came after that. Had me looking for those who exhibited rage and anger is people around me were at the White Supremacist skinheads that were around me your family was not i assume your family was in a strong bulwark against that that. I didnt grow up in an overly are racist household. It was relatively dysfunctional but there was no overt violence for the most part my childhood echoes the childhoods of most of the people that grew up alongside me in the 1980 s. There was nothing that anyone would have seen in my life that would have alerted them at that point that my trajectory would go towards violent White Supremacy and i understood when you were 20 years old you begin to leave the White Supremacist Movement how did that happen. I ended up not really having a place to live and i was very luckily taken in by a woman who displayed courageous compassion and chose to let me come live in her home and rather than seeing the violent hate filled creature that i had become chose to see me instead as a hurting and struggling young woman and the stability and the unconditional acceptance that she gave allowed me to begin to disengage from this a failed ideology that had been so much in my life for the last 5 years in those hydrogen and you describe yourself as a former violent once the bruises i mean were you waking up in the mornings thinking about which nonwhite person can i find today to to her to do bodily harm to a was that how your days were comprised for those 5 years. Very often yes towards the end it actually became more militaristic and we were training with arms and strategic maneuvers. You know we sought to do as much damage as we possibly could and spread the message of hate White Supremacy everywhere we knew it would be the most upsetting and did you ever have the order or did you ever have the task of going to actually kill people. Know how and why and much like today even though ive been disengaged for 25 years it was still very much a leaderless. Movement so there werent sort of it there was there wasnt a hierarchy of orders coming down that very much even though i lived with a bunch of other White Supremacists it very much was sort of an organic choice of things to do and often the violence that we undertook whether as fights or violent harassment of people who were targeted flyer. Synagogues or places of worship that a lot of times it actually just sort of happened spur of the moment. You tweeted a couple of days ago something about parents and children in the u. S. Who want to show our viewers this tweet you write parents. Of white kids you are not powerless to keep your kids from being radicalized into white nationalism all right or for white Belief Systems the government isnt going to so we must so tell me what what do parents in the United States what do they need to do you know. In addition to my past i also am the mom of 7 children my oldest is 22 my youngest is 3 and so this is my life for the last 22 years how do i hope human beings. Never look to the same things that i did how do i help them thrive so that hate and violence is never part of their life. Why people in america have got to look at our children and think my child is potentially a White Supremacist terrorist and we have to just deal with that fact because we live in a White Supremacist system that has been in place for hundreds of years and we still have not dismantled the realities and the systems that are in place with that but as parents we can talk about White Supremacy we can talk about violence we can talk about systems of power and most importantly we can offer the antidote to the things that allow people to find resonance with those ideologies in the 1st place we can allow their voices to have agency and help them determine their future as we can honor the paths and identities that they are trying on as part of the process of childhood now we can connect deeply with them that we can make sure that they always feel like they have a place to belong we can let them fail and falter and still support them and be in integral part of their lives we have got to talk to them about everything that our world is so complex and young people are starving for for dialogue about the complexities of the world that they face and we can give that to our children you know what youre describing is what a good what a decent parent should do when as you say theres appears to be a shortage in modern society and when asked about the government what is the government not doing that you think it should i mean have the republicans have the have they given up everything to trump. I think that its politically expedient to stoke fears particularly creating fears of whatever group of people that you want to other so in america that is very often black people very very blatantly the hispanic population. Still king those fears is politically expedient if people are afraid theyre easily easily controlled or easily manipulated its easy to get them to vote against their best interests and so there is in some sense our real strategic advantage to not addressing the historic racism thats a part of our country and has written to you it hasnt it hasnt been done trump. The response was yes well have gun control and well tie it to Immigration Reform yeah theres a lot more of the same more of the same but how do you think he is in the increased their weve seen in the us of White Supremacy violence well i think his language is incredibly culpable not only that but other rightwing influencers in the Mainstream Media and the Mainstream Political Realm have utilized Conspiracy Theories that are very popular amongst the far right and all right that theyve mainstream those ideas the words that we say affect how we think which affects how we act and so there the strategic messaging that is coming out of the white house and many within the republican party. Is incredibly influential probably in ways that a lot of people are not even aware of that language is influencing their beliefs and how theyre acting. In the u. S. Do you watch fox news. Very occasionally. Very occasionally its not by any means my main news source but i do consume it to understand and better have a finger on the pulse of what what the people who watch it are consuming let me ask you before we run out of time you know the president has opposed to travel to El Paso Texas to morrow some people have said that hes not welcome there others want him to try to be the console war in chief should the president travel to opan so to more in your opinion. Well as a mom one of the things that i have learned is to ask my children what they need for me do you need me just to listen would you like my input would you like my advice what do you need from me here if he is really going to be a strong leader finding out what the people of that city want would be a step of leadership if they are saying we are not ready and we do not want you here we are grieving then the best leadership he can provide is honoring that request yes well we will see what he does tomorrow Shannon Foley martinez joining us tonight from our Washington Office is former White Supremacist talking to us about how you can change the hearts and minds of people and you start with your children janet thank you very much we appreciate your time and your story thank you thank you for having me. Well paso texas is now at the epicenter of americas domestic terrorism but it has ties to Something Else as well the city just across the border the city of seo dog is considered to be one of mexicos most violent cities up until last weekend el paso ranked as one of americas safest places well this explains why you see it as has become a magnet and a Waiting Place for Central American migrants seeking asylum in the u. S. But as our next report reveals that weight can be a miserable one. Many of the Emergency Shelters on the mexican side of the border a full but people continue to arrive the u. S. Is sending migrants back here across the border until there are silent applications of processed. This is a Detention Center in el paso Asylum Seekers describe what theyve experienced there you know they said during us they searched everything and touched us everywhere a woman next to me told the border guard to stop touching her but they just continued to make booking you can see it. Even removed her senator e pads to see if she was hiding something that i mean even though men were present at us think yeah vietnam base. Emily is 18 years old she would only talk to us after she was certain that no one was watching she seen a lot she fled guatemala on foot then continued by train in may she arrived in the us and was separated from my family because shes already considered an adult you know me a bit of those my mother said no thats my daughter you cant take her away and you answered by saying its a different process for her yeah you got my mother to tears and simply took me away anyway i didnt know what to do. You know even after being sent back to mexico and millionaire mother cant stay in the same facility emily now lives in the border city of Ciudad Juarez along with thousands of other Asylum Seekers theyre watching for their appointment with Us Immigration chicken pox is going around the center and despair is everywhere many give up and leave voluntarily. Anyone wanting to enter the u. S. Legally has to put their name on a waiting list in Ciudad Juarez alone around 5000 people have registered few of the new was to solemn seekers even get an appointment with u. S. Authorities. I mean but its amazing when i think the entire system is unfair the migrants have to wait for their appointment here in mexico and theyre ultimately rejected thats what happens in 9 out of 10 cases anyway but it does have. The sound of sobbing echoes through the Emergency Center novi. Im out a seller is 33 years old she left us with the children and now finds herself completely alone. Give me your help its unbearable having to stay here my whole body hurts my back my arms and they just give me pain killers nothing else. But know if youre is not alone. Many people here say that the conditions are terrible the realities of migration on both sides of the border are brutal. China today if you did starkest warning yet to protesters in hong kong the government Spokesman In Beijing said that punishment for the protests is coming in only a matter of time beijing adding that protesters should not mistake the governments restraint for weakness well called. I would like to warn all those criminals dont ever misjudge the situation a mistake our strength or weakness him or dont have or underestimate the powerful force of justice in Hong Kong Society to safeguard the rule of law and maintain peace and order were earlier today we spoke with joshua wang hes an activist and hes Secretary General of the Pro Democracy Group democracy stuff this is what he had to say about that threat from beijing. We cont

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