was elected that really shaped german american affairs 30 years after the wall 70 years after the founding of the federal republic we celebrate that today i think there were things that were changing anyway and so regardless of who's going to be president and who's going to win the election in 20. i think it's going to continue to change the parameters of discussion tween berlin and washington and the united states in general with germany that's not all bad so it's a little premature to speculate about you know pence or trump or whoever the democrat might be who might win but either way the environment of german america relations is in flux. it's it's in flux and the i guess the building of relationships that you see between policymakers and lawmakers is that happening as robustly as it was but see 101520 years ago or do you see that being a road but i think that there is an enormous amount of interface between the