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DW The Day July 26, 2022

They went to prove who is in power. The one to you is de fear, a International Community. No, no, no ones here is not in the anymore. Thats not related to any more the adequately. Now they are prepared to do whatever it takes, whatever rights abuses, whatever, atrocities, whatever crime, also coming up will russia stick to it still to end the black . So you blockade d w looks at the dangers and difficulties of moving you cranes mounting of grey. If youre with them, theres no point opening reports. If that means letting the russians in by the back door feel, wed rather go on as we are tightening our bells and helping each other out, well do anything to avoid being occupied tomorrow. Welcome to the day, theres been an International Outcry after me and most military government executed for Political Prisoners would challenge last use military coup amongst them was killed were p o z, a r tor prominent member of the elected ruling party. And the veteran activist child may need you better known as co, jimmy. The military accused them of being involved in terrorist killing as many more Political Prisoners faced similar charges. The United Nations and United States have condemned the executions Rights Groups of war, but worse could be on the way. What we saw today was a norm was sent back a lot in the county to late 1980 s, which no way goes way to. So what i could to put out there is now a war going on between this military junta and the people of the country. The people are no longer prepared to be ruled by this military, went on this military junta is using absolute force to try to impose its will on the country. So as i said, were really moving towards a civil war where the human rights situation is going to get much worse. I am afraid that even more flood gates are now opening and that there is even going to be less, less restrict on the part of the hunter to continue its attacks. And the people will be in morin to try to win, still fear, even more fear in the population. So im, im deeply, im outraged by whats happened. This is just horrific. But im, im even more fearful of what is my 1st guess. Im his moms on a, hes a burmese academic and human rights activist, based in london, is also a co founder of a academic and activist network forces of renewal. Se asia, welcome to the w. I understand you knew 2 of the condemned men. This must have come as a great shock. Yeah, it, i felt a very piercing pain and you know, for them as well as for their bereaved families and i knew them met them briefly. You know, they were my comrades of you. We dont have to be friends as long as we share the democratic, our values improve human rights or mission. And so thats what they meant for me. And also like i knew that one of the last executed men and back in 1976. When i was a kid, he plotted as a clue who says nation attempt as a military officer, and he paid with his life. And so did this there for something my parents felt when i was growing up at that there, classmate and friend wars executed. And now i am feeling oh, going through what their goal must have gone through. Like such a tremendous pain that a good man were prosecuted by this a genocidal regime. And as we understand the reason the 1st executions in me and ma, since 1988. So what do you think has, has changed that, that means that this government, this time will go to these extremes. What it, you know, the country to the, of the yeah. Of Public Perception that the regime is an invincible, they are frightened frightening for their lives because they are confronted with the unprecedented. So, society wide opposition, including widespread armed resistance. Virtually every community has so armed a militia, or Resistance Unit called political of Peoples Defense forces and they were, they are working in collaboration with the, you know, several major ethnic resistance organizations that control their own territory for. So i think that the, it, that the extent to which, you know, the, this regime will go to terrorize a population, a has to be understood at how frighten this regime is. And so i think this is something that needs to be understood. Secondly, i think, you know, people say this is a turning point for and tom andrews, the un special repertoire on human rights situation in your mom said that this is at tony. Why no, i disagree. I think that turning point should have been when this regime was found to have committed a full scale genocide back in 2017 against the yeah. The ro hinge a muslims. And so when the International Community allows this regime to continue on that as business as usual, this is what has led to 5 years after the regime in us had more abbas a National Community because that news of these executions has brought expressions of outraging and condemnations. From governments around the world. But clearly i got the impression that you believe that thats just, thats just not enough. A not only of the can condemnations not enough. I would hold the International Community as sancha accountable for the execution, or at least that they are culpable or complicit. Because that is, you know, the words are empty. Because if, if, if you look at the ukraine situation since april, you know that the pro human rights, western governments have imposed to or taken measures waves off to waves to cripple the of the putins regime. And the Burmese Military has been violating every single humanitarian and International Law and treaties, including the Genocide Convention and that the west has the practically set on its hand. And you know, the, i think that needs to be reviewed. And we cannot let to this regime to enjoy International Community and on the regimes part it enjoys that double veto by russia and china. And so its a difficult situation. But there are measures that need to be done, like, for instance, like freezing the ad that the regime assets and Financial Access to the International Community, like the u. S. Has and, and European Union have done towards or against the pollutants regime that just dont want to let them be disintegrated. Just because, because of the worry when you look around the world, the u. S. The u. K. I have imposed sanctions. Are un sanctions. Im the so they have matched the about the harsh words with some action, but you still believe thats, thats insufficient. No, no, no. They have not matched up. You know the harsh words with the out of the real actions. Yes. That they have done things that, that allow them to feel that they have done something, you know, that the barometer, diplomatic emissions around the world operating full scale. And, you know, foods are on full scale across the European Union country. The Burmese Military has been allowed to access and the, you know, its international account. You know, what the u. S. And u. K. Have done is a single out, you know, a dozen or so top leaders. But as the system that allows these have the top generals to commit, you know, to as long seem ease of atrocities and not just execution of for dissidence, but inc, genocide and crimes against humanity. In many cases, war war crimes, they, the west has allowed the system to continue to operate, you know, also alia, and says, sitting over with the Burmese Defense Ministry Officials at different meetings had. So has japan. And so i think the system need to be talking and not just a few bad apples at the top, but the whole organization. Thank you so much for explain. Us are clearly mugs army in london. Thank you. Youre watching that. I still to come a paypal apology for the evil committed by the Catholic Church against canadas Indigenous People. Ghastly, performed them into the lead. I am sorry. I asked forgiveness 1st of the Ukrainian Military says its preparing a counter offensive in the Southern Region now occupied by brushing forces. Present the landscape has said these country will retake the region which would increase your grades, access to the black sea. But ukrainian troops are out gunned by Russian Forces and say they urgently need more advance weapons from the west. Russia says its missile strikes on the city of a desert over the weekend, targeted military equipment, and they wouldnt effect an agreement with ukraine to resume grain exports. Ukraine is still hoping to seats for shipments, leave black c port within days a friday you and broke. A deal is supposed to lift a blockade, releasing millions of tons of weight and other grades that have been stuck in storage, diet silos. The w is nit, conway has been to something ukraine to meet farmers, desperate to see that crops out on the world food markets. Ukraine is bringing in the harvest, spite months of war, despite shortages of everything, fuel to work. Here in this part of southern ukraine, we deal to down 40 percent or last year that still millions of tons. This is we that half a 1000000000 people around the world, martina to china, or waiting for lina, because this is all grown for people abroad. And ukraine cant and doesnt consume all this food, but no ones buying right now. The trade is, might be willing to take it off our hands for storage. And the, we only get paid once it goes to the customers. This is, harvest is now piling up unsold. Ukraines granaries on top of last years crop should have been shipped in the early months of this year. Just when war broke out. Ukraines cashed off. Farmers are often themselves will. Theyll even be able to afford to plant next years crop if the ports to reopen, giving them a chance to sell what they have and pay for new seeds and fertilizer with seaports, like a desk shut. Ukraine is trying to redirect a flood through a narrow stream and the crops out by truck and river, but rather than the huge freighters normally used. The land journey is gone for a matter of hours to weeks, the trucks back up for miles around, waiting to unload at the hopelessly overstretched river ports. The drivers can only guess how long theyll be camping out for us like that then. Yeah, well last time we were here for 3 weeks. Is there any when a body does turn out . If thats only 20 trucks worth of grain that with him like that. So the door and there are thousands of us. He and of that vice, much in a barely makes a difference. Why so much in that. So the traffic jam continues out on the black sea, wherever 100 ships wait, their turn to end the river danube. The river ports can only handle small boats, meaning lots and needed. All the remaining coast god can do is watch and try to manage the sudden influx. I have never seen. Such men ships here who are talking about or were 100. 00 plus ships waiting to increase. The capacity of this route is, is not in the ball romanian country. Because i go to that the main problem is the capacity of the, of the ukrainian boards. This is the problem, want to see that some of these vessels will take their cargo direct to customers in egypt or turkey. Other smaller ships stay close to home, you taking their loads to remain his main seaport, constantia to the grain is collected before being loaded on to bigger ships. But the bottlenecks dont and here romania is busy shipping its own harvest on the little Spare Capacity does have is barely making a difference. Ukraines farmers a finding to they cost the alternative routes out. Only add up to trickle government, keep estimates. Exports are still only a quarter of pre war levels. Thats why present lensky has been so keen to strike a deal to reopen odessa. But many here are deeply skeptical that piece of sea is possible. All war continues on land. Filled up with him, theres no point opening the poets is that means letting the russians in by the back door feel little wed rather go on as we are tightening our bells and helping each other out with anything to avoid being occupied or mob mcculler has good reason to be worried up recent days till person officials, once again made it clear they plan to grab yet more ukrainian territory. Lets take a closer look at this with the james hobson, whos co drive economists for ukraine and chairman of the non profit i for good. Welcome to d w. Im so what we, so we, we, weve seen that, that grain exports are hugely important a to ukraine. If we could get this deal to work, what sort of difference would that make . Well, 60000000. 00 tons of grain is a lot of grain. Right . And its certainly an important component of ukraines budgetary sources. But beyond ukraine, this deal is far more important for others. Firstly, if it were to be fully exported, it would relieve some of the pressure on global food markets. Now, not all of the pressure, but it would make a difference. And 2nd, if you think the food crisis that russia has been manufactured in ukraine is bad this year, then youre not going to like what it would be like next year when ukrainian farmers wont have the incentives. They will have invested in the seeds and chemicals as was just pointed out. They wont have so in their fields. They wont have the equipment and labor necessary to harvest it. And the costs and uncertainty around occupation and the ability to export would be too high. So its extremely important that we get this to work in some way in order to avert an even bigger disaster next year. Ok, thats, thats very clear. So we have to deal signed on friday. And then the point of a desa bombed by russia on saturday. Do you anticipate this deal actually holding so in, in war neither side believes the assurances of the other, unless there is a mechanical guarantee. Right . Something that actually prevents russia from breaking its promises. The deal that was signed by russia with the us and turkey doesnt actually provide any mechanical guarantees to ukraine that russia will allow ukrainian grain to make it to its final destination. And it doesnt provide any way to hon. Russia, if they dont hold the end, we cannot mix. Right . Its, its what we were term, an incomplete contractor. It serves primarily cosmetic purpose for the current objectives of the russian propaganda machine, especially in africa. But i dont think the kremlin really values it beyond the paper. Its written on because this is when you look at it from the outside. You wonder where is the benefit to russia of helping ukraine re establish a major export income source to help you cranes more effort against russia . It just doesnt seem to make sense. No so, so it doesnt make sense for russia to allow ukraine to sell its grain. However, a deal to allow ukraine to export grain allows russia to frame its involvement. Involvement is more of a benevolent actor both. Freeing its kind of vicious, dangerous neighbor nazi is an trying to ensure global food markets remain stable. Now, russias leadership holds no concern for the people who are starving and will stop as a result of that unilateral actions. But they are interested in co opting and making certain nations in africa and the middle east, more dependent on these trade relationships. And this really the steel really does serve that particular policy objective that russia has right now. Right, and Russian Foreign minister. So guy love roth is in africa at the moment and securing those relationships. Does ukraine needs to be proactive in this, in the same way, given that, that africa is a big, great export market for russia and for ukraine . Well, its very difficult, right . For ukraine to match the kind of relationships and deep involvement that russia has had in the african continent over the past. Well, 4050 years. And so as a result, russias narrative does find a lot of people who are, who are willing to, to take it at face value. And if not to believe in it to at least use it to their, to their best advantage. Now you have to remember a lot of african nations are very friendly towards russia, both due to economic and education ties. But also because from a sort of market perspective, these countries operate in a very similar way to russia. That is large countries subservient to centralize cities and bringing resources into their cities. And so the leadership also have a certain closeness with russia operates and they speak the same economic language effectively. Thats very interesting. A very clear thank you. James hodson, co founder of economists for ukraine. Thank you. If youre a po francis is apologize to members of canadas indigenous communities for abuses committed by catholic priests. Government commission, found that generations of indigenous children suffered physical and sexual abuse in state funded schools run by the Catholic Church. Since last may, authorities have discovered hundreds of unmarked graves at school sites across canada. For decades, the church of pushed back against calls for the paypal apology until now is an excerpt from the popes apology and its translation to the indigenous groups who attended midwinter on tuesday. This forget ill be mad. I am here because the 1st step of my penitential pilgrimage among you is that of again asking forgiveness of telling you once more that i am deeply sorry. Sorry. Sorry for the ways in which regrettably many christians supported the colonizing mentality of the powers that oppressed Indigenous Peoples. I am sorry, i ask forgiveness. We get more on this from a don mechanical who teaches of the department of indigenous studies at canada. So Trent University welcome to d w. M. How bad was the abuse suffered by indigenous to children at these schools . I think its hard to underestimate the impact of the abuses had. I mean this, the book today himself acknowledged it was physical, it was psychological, it was cultural and spiritual children were that were taken away from their their parents. If you can imagine and spend 10 years in many cases in residential schools, they had their hair cut, they had their, their parents were denigrated, told them being told they were against their cultural as was criticized in every possible way. The abuse was, was significant, and it has le

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