Marathon, martolyarnyk, vasyl, winter is working with you, here we are returning to the only marathon, which is recognized as critically important and subject to reservation, there are a lot of channels, a lot of workers, i just want to say, here are the data of the Kyiv International institute of sociology , only 36 of ukrainians trust the single marathon , 47 do not. Well, in any case , it is obvious to someone who is important during the war as an information channel, who is not important, well, we also have a circus booked and lets go next, zelensky made a bet. The main issue is the defense of kharkiv. Zelensky stated this in his official telegram. And he says that the main issue is the protection of kharkiv, the protection of the city from russian attacks and the opportunity to strengthen our air defense and rep in the kharkiv region. Well, more concretely about the situation in kharkiv oblast, we will talk with serhiy zhukov, deputy of the Kharkiv Regional Council. Mr. Serhiy, welcome to our airwaves. Congratulations. Well, lets maybe start with the main bet. So, kharkiv, the main question is which was discussed at the stake today, and actually it is about strengthening the defense of the city, it is necessary to strengthen kharkiv against russian attacks, because they continue, and continue very intensively, and we understand that the enemy, either informationally or even on a practical level, kharkiv is still trying, well, to keep kharkiv in sight, lets say, not to let kharkiv relax. For a moment, because the shelling continues, and these information leaks that an attack on kharkiv is allegedly being prepared, they are increasingly unbalancing people who remain there, how would you describe the situation in kharkiv in the kharkiv oblast, you have a word, well, the situation is certainly not easy, as you have already correctly pointed out, kharkiv has been suffering from almost daily rocket and bomb attacks from the Russian Federation for the past three weeks. These blows are on critical infrastructure, on residential buildings, so of course people suffer, people, well, those who are lucky, after all, they are forced to sit without light, for a large part of the day, in some places without other benefits of civilization, but not less, people hold on and understand, in principle, what is happening regarding the evacuation of people, there, as far as i understand, what is happening separately. Mobilization measures are being strengthened in communities, especially there, these are those families who have children or teenagers, are there certain problems with this, are there opportunities to carry out a larger, better evacuation and plus some help in the priority accommodation of people who may not have anywhere to come, yes, these are holiday events, should i emphasize, look, these events continue here permanently, they. Well , they started this year, well, not since the beginning of the year, and in the past year they were, so this is neither an innovation, nor an emergency situation, from the most dangerous communities, this is first of all, this is the kupinsky district, permanent evacuation is taking place both by the forces of state bodies and by the forces of volunteers, primarily children, families from children and so on. There are suitable places for their placement, all this is more or less happening, but the problem, the main problem is that evacuation is not forced in our country, well, actually, er, and many despite the danger, despite the regular shelling of the frontline communities, lets say yes, and in in principle, they can fly into any community, we are just talking about those communities where they come from barrel artillery, from jet artillery, i. E. From. These are those that are in the zone of damage directly to the enemys land cities, lets say yes, there really are still people there who dont want to stay. Their property, they dont want to leave their homes, and accordingly they dont want to partially leave there and take their children out, there is such a problem, but none the less, none the less, the authorities regularly pacify, well, not that that very regularly, but periodically, the Regional MilitaryAdministration Reports on the successes, the results of, lets say, the evacuation in the first place, and what about the situation with electricity, as far as they are currently actively used. Planned outages, is it possible to shorten this period without electricity, how is the life of the city going now, is the subway working, and indeed some other important infrastructure facilities, are they now able to work without interruption . Well, lets say so, critical, critical enterprises, critical institutions, such as health care facilities, hospitals, inpatients there and. Continue to work without interruption, because they are all equipped with generators of different, different power since the 22nd year, and in principle they can work, and as for the business there, there are also generators, there are a lot of them on the streets, you can see them near the shops, near pharmacies, near cafes, near, near everything that is a business, yes, a generator, the private sector will also be generators, the city is basically alive, it is much more difficult for residents of apartment buildings, because they are tied after all to these shutdown schedules, which, despite the efforts of our Energy Workers, the efforts of all the people who are involved in the process of life support of the city, still schedules , we will say frankly, they cannot always be observed, because we have bindings. To capacities, to Energy Consumption and, sorry, also to shelling, because during shelling, in order to avoid fires on objects, you have to turn off the electricity during the threat of shelling, lets say so, and then turn it on again, so people who can , lets say so, to be dissatisfied, there to express some dissatisfaction with what was promised, or to turn off the lights from 5 p. M. To 12 p. M. , relatively speaking, there for 7 hours, there was no light for 10 hours, for example, for a day, then these claims should not be made to our Energy Workers who work at the limit of possibilities, and first of all to our neighbors, yes, who want to terrorize the city as cynically as possible and make life a bad place. Thank you so much for your comments, take care. Himself serhiy zhukogo, deputy of the Kharkiv Regional Council about a difficult situation, a difficult, lets say, situation in kharkiv and in the kharkiv region, where the enemy continues to constantly fire rockets and artillery. Meanwhile, we continue to inform you about the main news, so there is information that the committee of the Verkhovna Rada decided on the amount of fines for violation of mobilization and military registration. The head of the committee, serhiy ionushas, faction of the servant of the people, in a comment to ukrainian pravda , reported that according to the committees proposals for violations. The rules of military accounting in peacetime will be subject to a fine from 3,400 to 5,100 uah repeatedly or during a special period, and now we have a special period from 17,00 to 225 uah. We go further, at the same time for violating the legislation on defense and mobilization. In peacetime, it is planned to set fines from uah 5,100 to uah 8,500 for citizens and from uah 17,000 to 34,000 for officials and legal entities. Fines will be collected during martial law. From uah 17 to 22,500 for citizens, and for officials and legal entities from uah 34,000 to 59,500, in turn the first deputy chairman of the Verkhovna Rada committee on Law Enforcement andriy osachuk, commenting on ukrainian pravda, clarified that the corresponding draft law will be considered in the Parliament Hall in the near future after the draft law on mobilization is adopted, but we must emphasize here that these are proposals of the committee, whether they will pass in the Verkhovna Rada, we do not know. Yes, because it will already depend on how the deputies will be determined to vote or not to vote for this or that provision of the law, but at the moment the committee is proposing exactly such fines, and i actually already announced them, lets go now for a short break, after it we will mykola kapitonenko, associate professor of the department of International Relations and Foreign Policy of the educational and Scientific Institute of International Relations, will be present, and we will talk with him about the Nuclear Threat and whether ukraine can claim restoration now. Of its Nuclear Status, why we decided to invite mr. Kapitonenko, because you very often ask this question in the comments under the youtube broadcast, you often write about the fact that ukraine should regain its Nuclear Status. Is it even possible in the current conditions, we we will find out literally in a matter of minutes, wait the new camolet metrolux mattress is made in ukraine with love for ukrainians. 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Mykolo, we welcome you to our airwaves, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, congratulations, well, i had the opportunity to talk to you about this topic earlier, but i would like to. Talk about it all now, because more and more often in Ukrainian Society people return to the lost opportunities to the mistakes of history that ukraine made, and actually it is about the Nuclear Status of our state, and very often in our comments people write to us that ukraine should regain its Nuclear Status, because now the United States is pulling with help, we are now defenseless and we are completely dependent on the help of our partners, i i would like you to explain to our viewers why this is impossible in the current conditions, for two main reasons firstly, ukraine got rid of Nuclear Weapons under joint international pressure, in the realities of the 90s, there is another alternative in fact, this was not the case here there was a joint position of the United States and russia, and other nuclear countries, who wanted to actually slow down at any cost. The proliferation process, therefore it was important for them that ukraine became a nuclearfree state, joined the nonproliferation treaty as a nuclearfree state, the fact that today the circumstances have changed. Does not give an opportunity to play back this decision, and regardless of the extent to which we are provided or not provided, do not provide assistance, the basic interest of the Nuclear States is that the proliferation of Nuclear Weapons does not take place, it persists, it has not gone anywhere, and in many Ways International security continues to rest on the fact that the number of Nuclear States is limited, and therefore those states that try to build themselves Nuclear Weapons, they are exposed to pitfalls. Pressure, sanctions and the like, that is, the World Community here does not encourage such steps. Ukraine today is in a much weaker state than it was in the 90s, and if in the 90s it lost its nuclear arsenal, today, being much more vulnerable, there is no chance that it it will be restored, taking into account our dependence on the countries of the west, and the second reason is that even if it is restored , imagine that ukraine is restoring. Nuclear potential, so what to do with it, because there are very different estimates of how much a state with a small number of Nuclear Weapons, and if we can create a nuclear weapon, it will be a small number, what it can do with it in a conflict with a state, which has many Nuclear Weapons, russia has the largest number of Nuclear Warheads and is the Largest Nuclear country in the world, so use or threaten Nuclear Weapons, Nuclear Weapons are a tool of threats, to threaten effectively. It would not have worked out in our country anyway, so i think that these conversations should be classified as fantastic and more realistic plans should be thought of. Mr. Mykola, then here is a question that you always want to ask, but somehow some such, well, they answer it with general phrases, that we dont care, and russia will break, one more thing, well, how then in principle to defeat the country with the Largest Nuclear power in the world potential in ukraine, well, despite the fact that a no one knows this, despite the fact that neither the states. Who else will not use Nuclear Weapons and will not start or join the world war, well, this question will arise sooner or later anyway, and i just wanted to, you can think about it now. In my opinion, the question of what should be considered a victory for ukraine in this war should have been on the agenda for more than two years, and we should think about it very deeply and coordinate the answer to this question with our western partners, because in fact, the question is open and it. Difficult western theoretical thought, after the emergence of Nuclear Weapons, the concept of winning wars was largely revised, about this classical approach that was in the time of clausewitz and his successors about what victory looks like, familiar to us, well, for example, the second world war, they occupied the capital, signed a capitulation, a peace treaty, the war ended, there are almost no victories in this way in the modern world, most wars end differently, often without any formal agreements. And what does victory look like in the nuclear era over a Nuclear Power that does not want to accept this defeat, if the conditions for it arise, no one knows that, there were Nuclear Powers that lost the war, well, lets say the United States, the vietnam war, but it did not look like the imposition of will the side that won, the signing of some kind of capitulation and so on, just a great power withdrawing its troops and , so to speak, admitting that it failed to achieve. Its goals, whether the victory over russia will look like this or somehow different, what to do if russia does not agree to recognize her defeat, and she is left with this ultimatum, the last argument in the