Someone thinks that this land is russia , that it will be very difficult for him here that its russia, then the president of ukraine said that if you want to live in russia, please move to russia for the sake of your children , for the sake of the future, and so on, then dont serhiy viktorovich ribbentrop told all the events like this. He was there for several years when europeans came to moscow, he also went to europe. He said that he expels the russians ethnos, what is citizenship here, in principle, and its the same situation. Well, i like it very much. It means that we are threatening to destroy someone there, and the Baltic States are conducting a similar policy. Well, they know that i didnt feel that in i was destroyed by someone there. And as for me, children should have the same rule here. Well, in principle, on the baltic sides, from the beginning, i want to live in russia , a suitcase, a train station in moscow, please , bye, go, love putin, speak russian , there will be russian schools , russian nazism, and so on. Well, actually everyone everyone understands just the question, again , the fact is that this tribune is not a mission for making any decisions. Thats all. The decision on the nofly zone in libya, what do you remember then, they had Dmitry Medvedev as the president there , and they voted, they got it well , what actually happened is what happened, i dont know, instead of the nofly zone, nato planes flew there and the result is understandable discuss as much as you want. I even remember that at that time putin criticized medvedev for this, by the way. Such is the option, but the fact remains that there was some kind of agreement. In the news and in books we saw about it. People come and save for peace, for peoples rights and so on. No, it doesnt matter. Just for now , the only thing that can be said here is to wish success to those people who work in the un apparatus, because they are very big salaries and leon pensions are generally easy to start, but nothing more than that the secretary general of nato and institut tenberg said that it is foolish to decide the future of this or that country and that it is not for moscow to decide who will be members of the North Atlantic Alliance and who will not. And why did he say this . Lets listen now. If latvia and lithuania joined nato in order to withdraw from russia , then this their choice, the people of latvia , lithuania, poland decided their future, not for moscow to decide , everyone chooses their own future and say that nato is aggressively expanding to the east. No , the east is joining nato and it is a Free Democratic decision and we must respect it. By the way, for some reason i was listening to stoltenberg and remembered putins ultimatum at the end of the xxi year and when he addressed messages to the United States of america that everything should be the way it was there at the beginning in the expansion nato and eastern europe. He also spoke about the fact that nato should fulfill some of its promises. I dont know what promises were made to the soviet union back then, when nato was dividing europe, well, i mean when europe was actually reuniting. Putin didnt divide it all the time either. Lived in this illusion, well absolutely it is obvious that the west will never fulfill the ultimatum that putin articulated in the 21st year by actually giving the ultimatum and threatening with Nuclear Weapons, because at the beginning of the 22nd year, when macron already flew to moscow, putin said, well, we all still we will show Something Like that and he was like he was so happy that they have Nuclear Weapons he can blackmail the world and the world that there will be no more returns until some conditions are fulfilled, some kind of ultimatum of putins demands, or is there still an option when at some point putin stops the war and we will have to agree on something with him, well, nato was never going to fulfill any ultimatums, this should also be recorded here got scared. Unfortunately, joseph in this package of military aid refrained from handing over these rockets to atakams, which means that they think that it is necessary to boil the russians in our country further. As for the fact that this does not mean that it will not happen in the future, except in this case everything will be anyway, well at least that is what experience shows now , what about nato . Well, you see, the russians have a slightly distorted concept, and any negotiations will only be on one point , in fact, this is where it ends hostilities and actually, the de facto border of russia and ukraine will pass there. Well, it is desirable that it should be no more west than the recognized state borders of ukraine , but about nato, listen here , we need to ask our russian comrades the question why are everyone running away from them just like how only they can this phrase mmm promised us that nato will not expand it is strange because it is against the thing of the law of democracy no one can promise for some other state these are sovereign decisions actually everything in the western world is based on this principle and this the same applies to the states and the Baltic States, the same to slovakia or hungary. Well, how is it that someone essays politicians in the 90s can refuse a state that meets all the membership criteria on the basis of what . Well, not at all this metaphobia, its so selective, remember how nato get out get out ahah two line of the 97th year and so on and so on but de facto idejura sweden and finland have become members of the alliance that we heard from banyak oh , yes, we have nothing against him, this is their sovereign decision. The time of something, it was the same as it was, its almost the same, that youre going to overthrow stalin, that im going to leave kharkiv , that its almost like the time of the rockets flight is the same , but the emotions are completely different, well, in fact, this is all an excuse to attack ukraine lets put it bluntly they never do they calculated that against nato, we are paying for the fact that we thought for so long whether to join or not to join, we must remember this monster viktor yanu who now lives in sochi, at one time he refused, he already wrote a letter in 2008 , and in nato, no, no we do not want thank you mr. 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So, Volodymyr Zelenskyi ended his official visit to the United States and announced significant results , in particular. He said that there is a longterm the agreement that ukraine will jointly produce the necessary weapons with america. And as an example, these can be air defense systems, zelensky said. Of course, this is important. At the same time, on the agenda, as far as i am concerned, are weapons for today and tomorrow, and this is Financial Support from the United States and security guarantees for ukraine this was mentioned by the way in washington , where congress is currently considering the request of the white house for additional aid to ukraine in the amount of 24 billion dollars during a meeting with american congressmen Volodymyr Zelenskyi called on them to provide this aid to ukraine because otherwise , without this aid, everyone would lose , said zelenskyi, but the republicans at this time were asking about the effect of the aid already provided and financial money and asked about ukraines plans for further hostilities. To the format of the security guarantee, this is an extremely important thing, because putin has lost this hope of being able to wait out the period of unity of the worlds leading countries in support of ukraine regarding the security guarantee. Joe biden said that the usa has begun the process of formalizing our longterm commitments to ukraines security together with other leaders of the g7 and other International Partners , but there are not many details yet, because as we can see, this process is ongoing. So, about the aid to ukraine from the states that have fallen against the background of the visit of Volodymyr Zelenskyi. What strategy and decision does our president choose for the partner our preelection period and how it will affect our ability to defend and advance, how it will affect the course and prospects of our war with the enemy, we will talk about this in the next issue of our programs on the espressos channel by leading ukrainian experts, my name is serhii zgorets, i am the director of the Information ConsultingCompany Defense express, which is a community that tries to highlight the most relevant trends related to the security of our country through press channels, and now it is joining us. Valentin batrak is the director of the Army Research center of conversion and disarmament of analytics writer valentina congratulations, i am glad to see sergey vitaya on the live broadcast of the espresso channel and glad as always to be invited to this broadcast, but i wanted to start with your general assessments of the results of zelenskys stay in washington, because before we perceived, yes, we still perceive the position of the United States through the prism of assistance within such a certain framework so that russia does not win and ukraine does not lose, but it seems that this is actually from the point of view of our interests are not enough, but in relation to the interests of the United States itself. How do you evaluate the statements of the words that would have been said during the visit . Well, the decision is different. The result is one ukraine ahah stood and it continues to stand yes and in principle washington is satisfied with this result yes it is better for washington it is better for the Biden Administration now that ukraine is standing it is resistant it is fighting eh but eh that ukraine well, so far, biden won. This is not necessary. I thought for a long time whether it was a mistake in western countries , including the Biden Administration, or whether this was done deliberately, because ukraine was underarmed before the offensive and made incorrect assessments of russia and the potential of the russian defense, and with the potential of the ukrainian offensive, i now tend to believe that this was done deliberately, and i want to remind you that on the first day of the visit, zelensky wrote that we are on the finish line in the negotiations about attacks on missiles , Tactical Army tactical missile complexes which are very much needed by the Ukrainian Army now and thanks to which ukraine would receive taurus cruise missiles under german and could move on with the shooting of all Logistics Infrastructure centers in crimea, in particular and this would lead to enormous pressure on the putin regime, and i do not rule out that this year it could end a generally hot company, because Russian Groups could generally be sprinkled. Such a revolutionary study has now been done in russia that a mobilized person lives in russia for an average of four and a half months from summons to bury him in the cemetery or leave his body here on ukrainian territory, thats why the situation was very much in favor of the Ukrainian Defense forces, but now we have what we have , the west has concentrated on the west, including the Biden Administration has actually focused on the 24th year when ukraine will get the first f16 planes and when when will the new options be possible maybe because sullivan said very clearly that uh the issue of uh attack is not closed but it may arise on the agenda later later this probably somewhere at the level of the 24th year er and therefore evaluating the visit as a whole and the next day after zelenskyi said that er the question is rocketing to the finish line the next day this question did not arise and it was already said that er is primarily a conversation about antiaircraft defense, but definitely this is a very necessary conversation and from all contexts and the cover of the f16 airfields and the cover of our decisionmaking centers and ultimately the protection of the civilian population, although we understand that it will be impossible to close the whole of ukraine even if ukraine really aimed to get those 50 e complexes of the petriv Missile Defense systems , which zelensky once mentioned, then the ambitions were reduced to 12 systems , because it is really not possible and not realistic in the future to get such a huge number of such expensive systems in the end ukraine has already received 76 billion dollars of aid from western partners and the vast majority of it is from the United States, and it is from america itself, so the issue of joint production. Well, for now, we need to figure out what kind of joint production it is. If we are talking about the possibility of certain localization, then it will not be bad. Because we know that poland literally this year at the end of the summer and the beginning of the fall announced two major localization projects , in particular, poland will process the javelin antitank complexes and poland will produce a part of the hymars in the of the number of missiles, i think those are not for attacks from a, those that are used for salvo fire for hm and will produce parts of himers launchers, i will say that if poland receives 45 missiles now, and also it would be very good if the ukrainian authorities and the americans worked with poland to ensure that ukraine received these 45 missiles, and poland, in turn, moved further. Unfortunately , the reactive diplomacy of the ukrainian authorities failed for the second time. The first time it happened with israel , we know very well spoiled relationship now with poland therefore, it is necessary to think about this, because, actually , washington made poland the main bridgehead in europe, and here ukraine could claim to do certain things together with poland and advance further precisely in localization of production, it is currently unknown what kind of production it will be, but i want to finally remind you that ukraine has not announced how much it has already announced and how much it did not want to advance militarytechnical cooperation, so far no joint venture with a foreign country has been created unfortunately, in the 18th year, an agreement was reached with turkey on the creation of a joint enterprise, the black sea shield, but the situation did not go any further. Comes to the market independently and builds enterprises here, now the most real and such a kipiai, so to speak, the indicator will be the german area of metal, if it is true, the article of the 23rd year will begin joint production, joint works from repairs, this will be the First Step Towards the creation of joint factories, which ukraine desperately needs, because it is both technology and opportunities, then to expand the export, the joint e