Update islington profile. I doubt anybody will hire him after this. Thanks regina yes. Lou good evening. Im lou dobbs. It has been just over 36 hours since radical islamic terrorists seized this natural gas complex in the eastern algerian desert gas fields. The house Syrian Government sent in its military to stop those terrorists tried to transport their hostages from the plant run by bp and the terrorists held dozens of algerian, asian, european, and american hostages. The government at this hour is reporting a special forces have completed their operation to free the hostages held by the terrorist group linked to al qaeda. There has been almost no independent reporting on the ground of what has occurred, the reported number of hostages ranging as high as 41. The number of american hostages as many as seven. The white house and state department confirming only the presence of some american citizens among the hostages, obviously relying principally on the algerian government for most of its information, although the United States has had drones over that plant for much of the time. So at this hour this is what we do know, that the algerian government has concluded its operations against the terrorists that the incident is ending. Some north african news outlets have claimed that at least 35 captives were killed in the algerian military rescue attacks the wall street journal is reporting algerian government sources putting the number of casualties to be ten or perhaps 11. This is what Reuters News Service is reporting. Thirty hostages killed when the algerian forces stormed the plant. Two of them japanese, to a french national. The nationalities of the rest as well as those who escaped remain unclear at this hour, and those rescued. Fox news, however, confirms that at least two americans are among those who escaped and are on their way out of algeria heading to london. Still, as many as seven americans are reportedly missing at this hour, as i said, all of this is very fluid, and many of these numbers are going to change as we learn more, hopefully far more during the course of this hour. Meanwhile, reporting that the al qaeda Offshoot Group was made up of a combination of the egyptians, algerians, two nations, libyans, malayans, and french among others and that at least 11 of those terrorists were killed. House Intelligence Committee chairman, congressman mike rogers telling fox news that al qaeda in north africa likely pulled the trigger on an operation that was already in the pipeline. So who is this group . What i their goals . How closely affiliated with al qaeda . Is the United States prepared for a resurgent al qaeda in any form weather in north africa or in any other reason . Those questions we hope to answer here tonight. Former cia operative Michael Sawyer joins us, middle east affairs and author and columnist and member of the council on Foreign Relations monicker crowley among our guests tonight. We begin with it Jennifer Griffith who has the latest on was spared the hostage crisis and the fate of those involved. The kidnappers themselves said they took dozens of hostages at the bp oil and gas facility in response to algeria giving the french permission to fly into neighboring mali where french troops are trying to push back al qaedaling to prebles. Instability in mali has created the opportunity for a staging base and safe haven for terrorists. More than 41 Foreign Oil Workers were captured by the Al Qaedalinked group whose leader lost an eye fighting in afghanistan. Dozens of areas were also taken and then released. It is one of the largest hostagetaking incidents in recent memory. At 7 00 a. M. Eastern algerian forces which had surrounded the dp complex without telling their u. S. Partners stormed the facility using helicopter gunships to strafe the kidnappers as they tried to escape. Algerian officials admit there were casualties. Up to seven americans are still missing. Citizens are among bostons is, but we dont have, at this point, more details to provide to you. We are certainly among seeking reports a loss of life and are seeking clarity. They rejected offers of u. S. Help in u. S. Special operations teams remained on standby in nearby europe. An unarmed u. S. Drone was repositioned over the complex. Al qaeda are still there. Still a threat, yemen, somalia, the threat as we speak in mali. Former state Department Officials say that the instability in mali and algeria is directly related to the decision to intervene in libya and overthrow khaddafi, whose african mercenaries fled back home. Clear that the collapse of the regime was the flame that sparked all this. You could argue it might have happened anyway, but clearly having that influx of heavily armed and well trained fighters going into countries that had existing problems exacerbated those problems. Lou at the end of the Bush Administration the state department considered mali a success story, a model of democcacy, but the instability that came out of libya and the foreign fighters a return to the region after the zero iraqi war ended has caused a fight against haiti to move down in north africa. Lou thank you. But his National Security correspondent. Joining us now, the council on Foreign Relations, fox is contributor. Former cia operative and that of the tracking unit Michael Sawyer. Good to have you all with this. Let me begin with you. The leader of this group of terrorists, he has appeared out of nowhere. What we know about them . Not exactly a household name until now. We do know is that the northern part of mali, the northern half of the country has fallen under the control of three hardcourt al qaeda groups. This is the leader of the major one. He has one eye, lost an eye fighting in afghanistan, and he has known to be an unrepentant al qaeda terrorist. We can also pretty much deduce that based on the lack of a strong american response or frankly any american response to the courage in benghazi when we lost four americans, four americans killed, including the personal representative of the president of the United States, u. S. Ambassador, that Al Qaeda Leaders like this man had taken a signal that the United States is not calling to move aggressively in this kind of action. Will we see coming out of benghazi, the failure to respond is an emboldened al qaeda, not just in mali and nigeria, elsewhere in africa, but around the world. Lou do you agree with monica on that . I dont think so. We know a lot. He is the closest thing that we have seen in terms of his ability to get along with different ethnic groups and different religious associations he is a very talented man, a very good organizer. I think in gauzy was important. It is not surprising that the Obama Administration did not submit respond, but you have to look beyond that is a minor blip. They were defeated in a rock in afghanistan. The American People dont seem to perceive that. The muslim world sees it very clearly. Been both superpowers, and that is the issue we are facing. A movement that is not if we are all done facing it in mali, algeria, somalia, pakistan, looking at it as kind of separate issues, it is all one movement, all sol self perpetuating, and it is all motivated by our intervention. The french have united a very disparate group of islamist organizations and molly by intervening there. Lou and as michael is it out, the United States debated, as he characterized, and by the way, i am not sure that the National Media even confronts that certain reality that the United States has lost. Those are not words that trip easily off the american time. No, but these are the consistent notions, perceptions. Absolutely. If you listen to them, read their statements, including the few weeks ago, you pretty much convinced that we have been defeated. We have been defeated in benghazi, and now, because you may see in a few weeks, statements by factions say we are now fighting the french. Does not matter if they lose people on the ground. Theyre fighting now. The international community, of course, in this issue. The most important thing in my perspective is, who are we fighting . There is a notion in washington that these are thugs, extremists. They dont know what they want, traveling from libya. That is how things happened. Out of all. This is a federation of organizations. Offshoots or divisions. This is an internal business. The same flag across north africa. The same ideology, the war room. They decide to attack. They decide to move which prompted the french to intervene, and they decided to attack the international center. Thats pretty much an army. Not just dispersed. Lou the algerian military has concluded its operations against the terrorists who had been holding the hostages and that gas complex in eastern algeria. It is at an end. We will have further developments with more on the numbers of those who are alive, successfully rescued as we continue our coverage on the algerian hostagetaking. The terrorist Group Response will be taking a as we continue here. Stay with us. Were coming right back. Some local police and sheriffs dont want to enforce a federal laws if they are prohibited from enforcing federal Immigration Laws. They dont certainly want to enforce federal laws they deemed to be unconstitutional. 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Lou well, the algerian government reportedly rejected offers of help from the United States and european powers, and there are also reports that they rejected a request by the white house to be extraordinarily careful and cautious in dealing with the hostages situation. They attacked without informing the white house or european or the japanese capitals. We will continue the discussion and find out what has happened and why taking a look now at the economy, its effect on the market today, good news, jobless claims dropping sharply last week, down to the lowest levels, in fact, since january of 2008. The housing sector showing its best performance in four years last month. Housing for all of last year rising 28 percent, increases seen across the entire country. The good news includes permits for new startups. Up 30 last year. The good news driving the snb to its best finish since late 2007 with stock prices closed higher for a Third Straight day. The dow up 85 points, s p up eight to monastic 18 and a half. A 5year high. Volume on the big board, volume picking up. To bank stocks hurting the dow performance. Bank of america reporting disappointing earnings. Profits last 63 percent by charges related to billions of dollars in settlements on bad mortgages. City profits down 3 taking a 2 billion charge for litigation costs. Not all banks disappointed. Pnc profits surging 47 . Investors applauding pushing the stock up almost 4 . Commodities also hot. The combination of improving economy and boston chicken in algerias and crude Oil Prices Surging and dollar and a quarter to almost 95 and have dollars a barrel. Gold of 770. 16. 90 an ounce. In the credit market the treasurys ten year down just and a half point in price. The year rising. We are back now. I want to get your reaction, if i may, as to what is your reaction to these reports that the white house, the Obama Administration was cautioning the algerian government on how to respond to this hostage taking and this group of terrorists . I think that is probably exactly right. I think the algerians are very experienced people at fighting, and they dont give a lot of time to develop. I think it is probably very crude to say that i think the algerians value that Gas Production more than the people that were being held hostage. There were very worried about the plan being destroyed. I think that is why they moved right away. They were concerned, and i heard it in my debate. The americans and the french could do it. There was a draw flying. Special forces moving. They looked very concerned that we would go in and therefore they could not absorb a politically. They went. Lou ignored by washington, european capitalists. What i think the algerians understood, knowing what they know about those g how this, if they dont terminate the issue very quickly, there are other cells. This is not just for overseas. Algeria itself, there were other strikes elsewhere. The warrants and up from the beginning of. Lou and this calculus that is what michael and will lead our suggesting is absolutely foreign to this administration, the previous ministrations thinking on how to deal with al qaeda. Exactly right. It does seem to be something of a turning point, but the whole dynamic in the region has changed. Up to the north and to the east, but even with the northern europe. Excuse me, Northern Africa because what were seeing now is with the removal of khaddafi the, as has been reported, it to create a power vacuum. We know that he is on the scripts for operating in libya even when cannot the was in power, but his removal has created an enormous vacuum which is why youre seeing the collapse of some of these. Lou i want to get to your point on the business decision. A lot of people dont realize it. Algeria, in combination with libya, there is a 15 percent shortage right now in natural gas to europe as a result of that shut down of that one complex. This is a very tricky matter for both europe and the United States. Again, the european involvement in the engagement, the french are taking the lead. Not doing so out of their economic interests, but rather a political response. Sort that out for us. What would you expect to be the consequences . What they have done is, the groups generally in northwest africa are very ethnically different, religiously different grievances will probably primarily local. Al qaeda works zero ways to unite these people and focus them on foreign powers, especially western powers. What the french have done as proof that god is great because they have now put troops on the ground, a Foreign Colonial power has returned to their colonial power country with there western friends in the u. S. , and they know have something that will unite all of these groups. And i think the only thing that we have going for us at the moment is energy is of very hard not for the islamists to crack. If they destroy plants and wells and muslim countries, it puts muslims out of work. I think it is very instructive that the people that took this test plan did not kill a muslims intentionally. In fact, the let them go. Lou i can only caution this. We dont yet know. Unworn. 600 of them that got away. Lou 600 dead, and then the numbers become in the foggy. We are still waiting to have a reliable and concrete update. You get the last word here. Future prospects on the war against al qaeda . Unfortunately al qaeda is not on the path to decline. What we saw in benghazi, number algeria, its all indicating that they are on the path to expand. The path of expansion, not falling down. Lou thank you very much. We appreciated. Thank you. Up next, an oregon sheriff stands up to the assault on the Second Amendment. He refuses to enforce any laws against unconstitutional. He is our guest here next. A new analysis puts the number on how often the president ignores fox news in favor of his friends in the liberal mainstream media. It is an interesting number. And so much more straight ahead. Lou were going to update you throughout the hour as more details emerge from algerian hostage taking that has been concluded by algerian military, algeria state news agency saying special forces completed their operation to free the hostages, giving no new toll numbers for either the dead, hostages who escaped or the terrorists, described as a multinational terrorist group, earlier. Algerian television had mentioned who died but we cannot confirm that. The terrorists, had dozens that were killed in the assault. The algier ja algerian governmeg that number is far fewer, perhaps no more than 10 or 11, i say, it is at least a better number if you will, than the 30 to 35 that have been reported earlier. Well keep you up dated throughout the hour. Lou several state officials across this country say, they are fighting back again any effort by federal government to impose new gun control laws they consider unconstitutional. At issue is the president s call for legislation to ban assault weapons as well as a number of executive actions and orders. Our next guest wrote a letter to Vice President this week, stating quote. Any federal regulation enabled by congress or executive order of the president offensing Constitutional Rights of my citizens shall not be en forced by me or my deputies, were pleased to welcome sheriff tim mueller of lynn county, oregon. I would leak to start by asking like to start by asking reaction, to those you serve, what has been the preponderance of their reaction. Overwhelmingly su