General dempsey also made it clear, that the president overruled his recommendation to arm and train syrian rebtells two years ago. A decision that president s critics say allowed Islamic State to gain strength in the region. Was president right in 2012 when he overruled most of his National Security team, and refused to train and equip moderate opposition in syria at that time . Senator, i was not there at the time. So, i am limited. I will ask general dempsey. Was president right in 2012 when he overruled his secretary of defense, secretary of state, and director of cia refuseing to train and equip moderate Opposition Forces in syria according to your prim testimony were doing today. You know i wreck mened we train recommended that we trained them, for policy reasons the decision was taken another decision. Lou secretary hagel struggled to answer why the president changed his opinion in arms the forces. Risk of inper tretteing what the president meant, when he said that, i recognize that always risky as i said. But, let me address your question, this way. What changed now is the urgency of what has occurred in the middle east. Lou general dempsey told committee that fight to defeat and destroy the Islamic State will take years even calling fight, a generational problem. This will require a sustained effort over an etined period of time ex teupbgded period of extended period of time, this is a jenering aal problem. Jener rationajeneringgeorge. Fox news chief White House Correspondent ed henry with our report. Despite president obama vowing he would not sense u. S. Ground troops to iraq or syria, general dempsey left the door ajar, testifying if president s strategy to destroy isis does not go as planned or coalition does not come together, things can change. This coalition is the appropriate way forward, i believe that will prove tro. But if it fails to be true, if there are threats to United States, i would go back to president and make a recommendation that may include use of u. S. Military Ground Forces. Reporter senate panel top democrat, count playd it noted military leaders ol way always y if circumstances change, but he citeed a specific circumstance. Pressed by republican, democracy suggested that president could agree. Has president ruled it out. Atthispoint, he stated policy we will not have u. S. Ground forces and direct combat. Including operator embeded on the ground. Correct. He has told me to come back to him on a case by case basis. Reporter he did not mention that in his primetime address, republicans continue to charge it was a mistake to rely on just airstrikes. Reporter president focusing on just beyond hil military. Today iraqi a lakers re lawmakers rejected nominee, a speech bump as for syria hagel faced tough questions from mccain, about what u. S. Military will do, if syrian president alassad starts attacking moderate Syrian Rebels while they serve as our Ground Forces against isis. They will defend themselves. Will we help them againstal aaddalasadsair . We will. Will we rere repel . Any attack on those weve trained who are supporting us we will help them. Sparking concerns about . Of president s fellow democrats fighting assads civil war. Makes no sense to me, i cant sell it. Republican Lindsay Graham fireed back that stakes are too high to do nothing. They athey will vote in next cof of days. Lou thank you. President obama made it clear he is putting boots on the ground in africa to fight the elola outbreak, calling it a National Second prsecurity priority. To set up ebola treatment centers. World hell organization now say Health Organization said it is over 2500 dead. Our report. Reporter at centers for disease control, president obama met with Emory University doctors who treated 2 americans who contracted the ebola virus in west africa, and later announced that u. S. Will lead an effort to eradicate what it believed to be largest outbreak of the disease. World is looking to us. Mr. Obama met with dr. Kent brantley and his wife, he has been pronounceed cure of the ebola virus. They will sense 3,000 servicemen and women to west africa that give training and longchistal support logistical support, majority will be based in liberia. Where it is worst. They will also be around in senegal. World Health Organization leader said that crises is escalating. 5,000 now, infected twice number when we met a couple of weeks ago over 2500 dead, nearly twice number of when we met a couple of weeks ago. Reporter with west african hospitals overwhelmed u. S. Aims to build 17 Healthcare Facilities with 100 beds each, and train as many as 500 Health Care Workers a week. How to handle exposed patients, officials. To act quickly before the virus becomes more easily trans transmitted. House Speaker John Boehner feels that president s attention on overdue. Imsurprised we that administration has not acted more quickly. They have spent 175 million on the crisis, sending largest cdc deployment in history west africa, asking congress do reprogram 500 million in pentagon funds. One republican suggests tapping an obamacare fund. In the Affordable Care act. Several people have written about it, there is money in the Prevention Fund this is where that money should be used. Reporter u. S. Called for u. N. Security council meetingo the outbreak thursday. Only 6 time the Council Second time council focus was on a health crisis, lou. Lou thank you. Threats to america from ebola and Islamic State, put americas broken southern boarder under scrutiny, Homeland Security secretary jay johnson admitted there is a forder problem. Border problem, departure from former Homeland Security secretary janet napolitano, who told congress, a number of times that our nations borders are more secure than ever. Secretary hagel taking Boarder Security a step further. Are you concerned about our southern border. We received diagra testimony frm Homeland Security people, that our border is pou poreous and te people who are now degree to travel to the United States and also other radical elements might cross our southern border in attack the United States . I am always concerned about serious concern . I we think have do always look at these things. Serious concerns . Do you think have we to improve our Border Security in the south . Y can improve the Border Security. Lou there ar have been respectf terrorist activity report of terrorist activity on southern border but no intelligence suggestions a specifiific ballot bific plot byIslamic State to ke border. And now a ceasefire useems to be working, holding after ukraine ratifyed a deal for closer ties to european union. The same deal that ignited last years crisis that brought about a new government in ukraine fighting in the east, and russias annexing a of crimeia. The parliament also passed bills giving more autonomy to pest earn regions and eastern regions, and nasa aufr astronaue no longe longer with have do ren the Russian Space program to reach the International Space station. Boeing and spacex will have a contract. First flights to begin in 2017, were coming right back. Russia, china, iran, theic Islamic State, white house says no boots on the ground, and pentagon says maybe. Former u. S. Ambassador it skwraoupbgs, john bolle con, here next. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . I have 40, 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. 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So please go talk to your doctor or pharmacist. Lou our first guest said destroyinghe Islamic State requir o tope on t grou, and time is right now. Not years from now. Joined by former u. S. Ambassador to United Nations. John bolton. Good to have you with us. Lets start with general dempsey making it clear, if they went wrong way, he would not hesitate boots on ground. I think it was a demonstration of courage on his part, because president has already ruled that option out. So at least we have somebody saying publicly what i think is obvious to anyone who is looking at environment there today, real question is, are we more likely to prevail if we wait, and find that the iraqi arm is inadequate to the task, we already know that. Will it cost more american lives and more at risk, and isis be able to hold ttoelidate strike t now when they are most vulnerible. Charles yet they have so far, been hardly vul fo vulnerible te iraqi force 60etngri b s. Military. I know it early days ubut they still seem to be a formidable force. Beating the iraqi army was not such a job, the principal tactic was throw away the weaponsic take off their uniforms and run. The air force, and the aviator call when theyeking, after dis s one at a time, that is not a strategic use of american air power. Im note saying we should not saying we should do this alone we should do this with as many allies. Lou why . If is is our join, why in the why should we have to wait to form a coalition . Not strike, and destroy the enemy, who will destroy us. Im not saying we should wait, i would love to have allies come in with us. Lou but we dont have them. This Obama Administration wont told us who they would be. Fair enough. If Obama Administration i did displayed resolve, the allies would come, one reason we dont have commitment is because they dont trust the Obama Administration, to follow through on what it says its objective is. Lou i dont begin to get is why all of folks including yourself, who are said this president is a fool with Foreign Policy, are so eager to go to war with him as commander in chief. What in the world does make anyone think that outcome will be different than say outcome in any other aspect of his Foreign Policy . Skwhr the issu the issue is what u. S. Should do, if we had a real president lou if i may quote donald rumsfeld, sometimes you have to go to war with the commander in chief you got. I said that. Lou i thought it was the donald rumsfeld. He was talking about the army. Lou i know he was talking about early, i was building on that, john. I did earlier. Lou did you really. Im sorry, i neglected to give you full credit. What should american policy be, whether we have a competent president or not, i think that safety of america, and the safety of our forces, is enhanced if you strike now. And every day that goes by, gives isis a chance to build up defenses to attract more jihadis. Lou lets me ask this nothing would well, there are lot of things that would be more important, i dont know it is important, i will acknowledge we have retribution for the american citizens who have been beheaded. But if we put that in don text against context of number of american lives lost in iran, a third of our casualties causeed by iran, why is there this interest of going to war over the dramatic grous gruesome murf two of our citizens but not a sense of retribution against iran for what they did to our armed forces, our troops our soldiers our marines, what is going to . Well, i think that failure to deal with irans involvement in iraq, assault directly or indirectly with iranian provided weapons could failure to retaliate has helped contribute to environment we see now, people dont think that america is capable of defending itself, my view, this is not retribution for the two americans beheaded this is preventing future terrorist as thats on United States attacks on the United States. Lou thenly thly let me ask yous president spending a lot of energy, his secretary of state is crying to create a coalition, and to create a coalition, and it is important, they say, a coalition made up of arab state, because they are so threatened, i can remember in 1990 and 91 when president George Hw Bush puting iing together a coalitio. They understood communicateed their need to us, and their requests for help. Why is this such a threat is the United States again putting itself in a position of looking as though it is imposing its will in the middle east, rather than responding to a dire udire National Security threat on parts of 22 arab nations . I think it is in large part due to difference in leadership in United States, Arab Government lou we cannot continue to abandon reason, and logic because there is a president in the white house whose leadership we doubt, we dont trust, and whose policies make no sense to us, there is a passion it seems to go to war with him as commander in chief, when for all world we have not done well, as you know in middle east, we have not done well in iraq. It took 8 years, tens of billions ovalers ts of dollars n those divisions that abandoned their training. The issue is what should United States do, policy to eliminate isil and minimize the threat to ourselves and friends and allies, only thing those of us not in government can do is prpropose policy we think best,i long for the day when barack obama is no longer president , but if we do nothing, well have a new terrorist state in the middle east, that will are be fab more far more powerful. And our threats to us, and our friends will be graveer. Lou even at expense of alignig ourselves with forces that will comfortably support assad in syria as leader, and support the policies, and ambitions of iran as a hedgenomic force in middle east . Including dominion over iraq. As i said, we should do absolute nothing either to aid assad with greater capabilities or baghdad government, those are aspects of the pes plan that arpresident s planthat are flaw. But you cannot ignore the threat to is i isis poses. Lou i can ignore that threat, i can. But if i am president of the United States, i can asset our special forces, destroy that enemy, and bring those responsible for those deaths to account. This e endless talking and demad for war against we dont know how big isis is. But then you cant argue for the special forces, have to make a judgment whether it constitutes a threat to United States, if you a. Lou i do not have to make that judgment, i made it. What is your judgment. Lou National Security app apparatus said it is not. I think they are wrong on that. Lou i have to trachsomebodys to take somebodys word, a government you dont trust, a leader you dont like or expect much of but you are read doe go to war. Because i think they have demonstrated what they are capabilities are, their inpenen intentions are, if they are in territory a are pumping oil, and earning million in revenue they will be a threat, they are now, they can get into this country, with valid american passports. Lou but, would you like to secure the southern border. I would like to do that. Always good to talk with you. Thank you, lou. Lou vote on our poll tonight, question is, would you, congress to give president obama more authority on any issue . Including for example war . Cast your vote loudobbs. Com. My commentary on why the president may be keeping the Islamic State terrorist more informed than some of us in the american public. Like you and me, next. Know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. Know the right Financial Planning can help you save for college and retirement. Know where you stand with pnc total insight. A new investing and Banking Experience with personalized guidance and online tools. Visit a branch, call or go online today. Virtually all your important legal matters in just minutes. Now its quicker and easier for you to start your business, protect your family, and launch your dreams. At legalzoom. 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